ive been reading the forums everyday and i never seen anyone bring up the question of wats the difference between a universal ground wire kit and ground wire kits by matt blehm and nissan specific kits other than helping out fellow .orgers and different material. are these the only difference? i was interested in getting a ground wire kit from matt blehm but i figured i can get one cheap on ebay approx. 35 shipped. they look basically the same. i was wondering if anyone can gimme some insight on this. thx

 

@xnyc...

The differences:

1) Matt's one of us...
2) His kit comes with complete instructions... I was going to buy the NISMO ones from eBay, but I asked the seller if they come with instructions and they don't. So, unless you know exactly where to put them on our vehicles, I'd recommend you get yours from Matt because that's where I'm getting mine...
3) Matt OWNS a MAXIMA and wants to help us all out...
4) There's a thread about this subject in existence, and it's about two weeks old. I started the thread and looked back at it a few days ago...

Hope this helps!

peace2u

 

ic. thx i guess i should save up a lil more to get matts then cuz im a 16 y.o. hs student w/o job. lol

 

It's mostly because Matt engineers the lengths of the wires to exactly match the lengths needed for your engine. Also he includes the exact # of wires for your application. Much nicer looking vs having the ground wire octopus puking all over the engine bay look.

 

Great quality and I have noticed a difference in my car shifting smoother. (auto) The directions do help a lot. Well worth a few bucks difference. Save up and do it right the first time.

 

o yea and jeff how long do i have to have the "i should read the faqs" thing under my name? it makes me feel stupid lol

 

you have about 20 more posts before that goes away (I think. That one dissappeared for me about 8550 posts ago.


The differences in my kits (without trying to advertise of course) is that my kits are made specifically for ONE car. the NISMO, HKS, and other kits you'll find on ebay are just a pile of wires at random lengths that should be long enough to ground everything in existence.

they just blanket the entire engine and assume that it will fix everything. If you read the "installation instructions" on the generic kits, they tell you to ground the intake manifold, block, and a STRUT TOWER of all things! I'd love for one of those "engineers" to tell me how grounding a strut tower bolt will make a difference in how the engine runs.

I went at it from an engineer's standpoint and grounded the specific parts that need grounding on the engine, not just tying everything together and assuming it fixes things.

 

thx. expect another email from me next week =]

 

I dunno man, I never had that under my name. I call


I dont like the big octopus grounding kits, its overkill and rarely ever installed correctly (and if it is, they probably copied pics of Matt's kit lol).

 

That's why I don't post pics of the install for other people to copy.

 

Okay, so this is probably gonna sound like a stupid question, but why do you install the grounding kits in the first place? Shouldn't the factory engine ground strap(s) be enough? How does the extra grounding help? Also, do you install these kits specifically to VE engines (predominantly because of the coil packs) or does the kit benefit the VG max's as well. I've seen a few posts but haven't read as to WHY. I assume the grounding kit augments the factory earth strap(s). I'm just curious, that's all.

 

do a bit of searching on it (google works great), but basically it lowers the noise floating around in the engine's ground system so that the ECU can see the sensors' signals better and properly adjust as needed to run the engine.
when you think of all the sensors that are strapped to this engine and all of the moving parts inside the engine, the block is a horrible place to ground electrical wires. (every one of those explosions inside the cylinders causes small amount of electrical noise as well as heat and mechanical vibrations and noise.)
etc etc etc.
it simply provides a better ground reference for the sensors so the ECU can run the engine better.
and yes, it works on VE/VG/VQ/any other engine out there.

 

That makes sense - the factory earth strap is enough for the ecu to get what it needs but a proper ground kit filters out the remaining noise. Thanks!

 

I bought Matt's a while back and it's well worth it. It looks and fits great and comes with excellent instructions. I just wouldn't want to get one of the universal ones and have it not fit right and clutter the engine bay.

 

So... matss give the engine bay a better look for $60 more? I guess I can see that from someone who has a jobs perpective...
$60 extar through? I was thinking about it awhile back, $30 is not bad, but $100 would be almost as much as a Y-pipe... Aren't grounding kits just icing on the cake? Make everything work slightly better, but not really a very noticable feel of power or mileage increase?

 

doomtoo - not $60 more. $60 total

http://www.mattblehm.com/engine.html

 

Yeah - you won't notice big gains on either power or gas mileage, but every little bit helps & you know that the signal the ecu's getting from each sensor has much less noise, thereby allowing the ecu to function that much better. If you only got a 1% increase in gas mileage, it'd probably pay for itself in 3 - 6 months & with the added bonus of knowing a sensor isn't showing a false negative due to noise.
US$60 is a good price - about NZ$95