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Old 08-31-2004 | 12:22 PM
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knock sensor resistor by-pass

does any one know the correct resistance for tricking the computer to think there is no knock ??

****es me off , because i got a brand new knock sensor, installed it, and now, about 6 months later...im getting no reading (should of changed the harness.. is what your saying now i bet )

please help me out with the correct resistance number, my car feels like a honda !!
Old 08-31-2004 | 12:26 PM
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fix it right, please.
Old 08-31-2004 | 12:48 PM
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trust me, id love too....but for the mean time... like i said "its like driving a honda" the timing is too much off to not notice it... im sure you have an idea of what i mean..
come on matt, ill be fixing it this weekend......just dont have the tools until i got to the parents place for one, and i live in a apartment building second...

i know YOU know the resistance matt,,,, give it up.. !! :OP
Old 08-31-2004 | 12:59 PM
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500 KOhm IMHO
But I second what Matt93SE said!
And also I am not sure you can trick the computer - during normal operation of the KS there is quite a lot of noise in the line and I'd guess that silence will cause the ECU to throw the KS code anyway, but it is only my guess.
Old 08-31-2004 | 01:06 PM
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edit: feeling like a honda is better than pushing the damn thing home when your motor goes pop!
Old 08-31-2004 | 01:14 PM
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mr.gone...

can you please explain in detail how it could damage the engine ?
i understand that the sensor measures changes in pressure, and send a resistance signal to the computer, which adjusts the timing... but if you set your timing with the resistor installed, i dont see how you could wreck our engine.. correct me if im wrong..
Old 08-31-2004 | 01:16 PM
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Wrong. 2 sec on google
http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h38.pdf

Originally Posted by whoopy
mr.gone...

can you please explain in detail how it could damage the engine ?
i understand that the sensor measures changes in pressure, and send a resistance signal to the computer, which adjusts the timing... but if you set your timing with the resistor installed, i dont see how you could wreck our engine.. correct me if im wrong..
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It doesn't measure pressure, it detects pinging and detonation conditions, then pulls the timing accordingly.



I dont think its worth it to pull a Jeffy™


Old 08-31-2004 | 01:23 PM
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who ever this is that screwed their engine....ONLY used the resistor by-pass, .... and no other home made mods, or engine problems...??
i appreciate your advice, but the knock sensor signal cant adjust the timing enough to do serious damage to the engine .,,,

do all cars have knock sensors ??
Old 08-31-2004 | 01:27 PM
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what i mean is, what kind of engine damage are we talking about ??
im getting "yes" and "no" answers, but if someone could explain further as to who / what it does to the engine...
Old 08-31-2004 | 01:28 PM
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I wonder what is worse? A Jeffy or a Shawny?

Originally Posted by MrGone
It doesn't measure pressure, it detects pinging and detonation conditions, then pulls the timing accordingly.



I dont think its worth it to pull a Jeffy™


Old 08-31-2004 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I wonder what is worse? A Jeffy™ or a Shawny™?
I think they are the same, eitherway the 'ole washing machine center shaft hoist gets a workout
Old 08-31-2004 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by whoopy
who ever this is that screwed their engine....ONLY used the resistor by-pass, .... and no other home made mods, or engine problems...??
i appreciate your advice, but the knock sensor signal cant adjust the timing enough to do serious damage to the engine .,,,

do all cars have knock sensors ??
1. No he had a bazillion mods, infact i think the reason why he did have troubles and I didn't was because of the ECU, but I'm not positive on that.
2. The KS adjusts timing to PROTECT the engine, not to harm it. That is why you have poor performance.
3. lol
Originally Posted by whoopy
what i mean is, what kind of engine damage are we talking about ??
im getting "yes" and "no" answers, but if someone could explain further as to who / what it does to the engine...
I'd suggest researching the effects of pinging and detonation.
Old 08-31-2004 | 05:34 PM
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just wait and fix the sensor so you dont have to do ghetto things to a great car.....
Old 09-01-2004 | 07:59 AM
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Can you say burnt / broken pistons?
Old 09-01-2004 | 08:05 AM
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If you knock and ping- which will happen if you do the resistor mod and don't manually dial back your timing- then you will slowly burn holes in your pistons and blow chunks off the combustion chamber from the inside of the engine. not good. wish I had some pictures of an engine I saw that died from knocking.. there were literally holes melted in the pistons and big pieces missing from the quench pads on the head.

that's why you don't bypass the knock sensor. It isn't a performance adder/remover, it's a guard against the engine self-destructing itself.
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Also if you do the TEST procedure, you'll also need to run 93 octane which I know around here is 20 cents more per gallon. so take that into account too, and don't forget labor on the replacement motor
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