Which CAI do you think performs better? Is the Warpspeed any good? Anyone with a WSP CAI, can you give me some feedback. vs. Place Racing. How well does the K&N filter perform compared to the PR's foam filter? Thanx Everyone

 

The Jeffy intake


but get a y-pipe first

 

$30 ebay cai

 

You really think that the Ebay intake will perform better than the Cattman, WSP, or PR CAI. Hahahah I think not. I think Im gonna do a Y-Pipe instead for now. What do you guys think about the Cattman CAI???

 

all those cold air intakes do the same thing...bring more, colder, denser air....

you are just paying for the name of the intake

 

Y-pipe is definitely better to do first. The other more expensive cai might add something like a 1/2 hp (maybe none) more than the ebay one because of the filter size. The ebay cai tubing is very high quality and if the filter is that big of a deal to you then just spend an extra $40 on a k&n. Then you'll have a $70 cai that, in my opinion, looks better and performs the same as the expensive "name brand" cai.

 

Hah! They all use 3" piping, all the rest is in the details and R&D costs they are trying to recoup. If they made Ebay intakes when I was planning to buy my Place Racing, I would've bought the Ebay one in a heartbeat. We're talking maybe a 1HP difference between all the brands.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about. Just because it doesnt have a big name on it doesnt mean its not as good. If you look at the VE intake on ebay that is around $30 you will see it is the exact and I mean exact same design, shape and size of the PR intake...basically they just took the PR intake and copied it exactly...no R&D cost for that lol. The only difference is the ebay intake is made of aluminum and the PR intake is made of steel exhaust tubing. I seriously doubt that will make a bit of difference. Most all intakes (for all other imports) are made of aluminum.

They will not give you that much of an increase anyway. They are mainly just for sound...obviously they do help some just not a huge amount.

Oh and if you get a cheap one off of ebay be sure not to use the filter that has a screen on the end. I have seen some like that. Mine is just a regular filter like a K&N but I have seen some with the cheap screen filter.

The best thing to do is buy a K&N later anyway.


In my opinion though Jeff (the moderator of the 3rd gen forum) has a nice design and I think it is better. Probably not performance wise but it takes less cutting to install it and the filter is up higher so that you dont flood the car in a big puddle.

 

I was only talking about the filter quality. Forgot who, but two people that have that ebay CAI say the filter sucks. Also it has thinner piping. But what I mean is comparing the Ebay CAI to the Steel piping on the PR & the Foam filter.

 

"awsm66" You have the Ebay CAI right? I just dont trust the quality of it. You have one, so why dont you fill me in on quality. Im curious, you know from experience so I'll trust you. Also how's Performance & Sound??? Thanx

 

awsm66 has one and I have one. I love the thing and I just can't figure out how that intake is made and sold for $30. I mean it is polished aluminum. I don't think the thickness really matters because it's not like it is going to break or anything. I haven't had any problems with the cheap filter and it sounds great. I used to have a hai intake with a bigger/better filter and there still is more noticable power even with the cheap filter cai.

 

What filter do you think will be a good one to replace it with??? Some people have said that the K&N doesn't work too well after a few weeks. I dont know, cause I dont have one.

 

why do you want a cai, suck up water and boom hydro locked engine, get a short ram

 

i may be wrong but i dont recall anyone on the forum ever having problems with their cai sucking in water and killing the engine, someone please correct me if im wrong...

 

aluminum is cheaper than steel.
and it probably costs them like $5 ea in quantity

 

OK I just reread my post and I didnt mean for the tone to be what it was. I meant the "You have no idea what you are talking about" to be followed by a smiley as light hearted jab...it looks like I was being way to serious so hopefully you didnt take offence.

Anyway the intakes are aluminum which means they are thinner BUT there is no force being put on it to bend or break it. It will be fine and 90% of CAIs are aluminum anyway.

The filter is not the best but the one I have (doesnt have the cheapo screen on it) is just fine. It is similar to the APC ones in that they are not top quality like the K&N but will be fine for a little while.

Sucking up water should not be a problem because of the placement of the filter and being behind the splash guard.

Like I said above I think that Jeff's design is the best though. you should really look into that.

I can tell you that the intake performs better than just my filter on an adapter but isnt as loud to me. I like it all in all especially for the price. I will probably get a K&N later for it.

 

This thread makes me want to put my pop charger back on

 

i also have the ebay cai and have no problems with it. i put my k&n filter in and it performs just fine. your only paying for the big name....trust me. id rather have the aluminum one its lighter....as for the build quality ill give it thumbs up...

 

punk

 

I picked up the intake off ebay too and it's the best $30 i've spent on my car.

 

I would also like to comment on the Ebay CAI. I bought one a while back to replace my K&N short ram intake (with stock mid section). The only problem with installation was one of the pipes was a little long, so I had to chop about 1/2" off with a sawzall. I would also recommend a silicone reducer or something to connect to the throttle body, since the connectors that I got were all 3" and the one got a little crushed when I tightened it down on the throttle body. (I still have the 3", no problems or leaks yet) Mine was $50, but even at that price I would still recommend getting one, the quality is fairly good, and I gained almost a tenth in the 1/4 miles over my short ram.

 

do you guys know the name of the ebayer you bought from. i have a 91SE with SOHC, all the ones i have found are for the DOHC, will this fit?

 

no the DOHC CAI will not fit the SOHC.

Warpspeed, Place Racing, and Cattman have intakes for the SOHC. Some have used a cheap ebay accord intake and made it work. Look up chrischeeser and pm him because I think he knows about or had done this.

 

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|_____ wurd! ill contact that guy, thanks!

its chrischeezer with a Z because he from the streetz!

 

Like hell it is. Aluminum doesn't rust, bends easier, and is less likely to get heat-soaked. Aluminum is cheaper to work with because it is softer, but it is much more expensive to process.

My dad's company orders tons of alum. and steel every year.

 

Dont worry, I didn't take it offensively. I should have made myself more clear on that one post. It did kinda make me look like a NEWB.

 

That was the main problem I had with it when comparing to the name brands in performance terms was, the issue of it being more prone to heat soke. But im sure it probably wont be a problem.

 

i got a wsp intake with the K&N filter and trust me its one of the best out there

 

Aluminum doesn't rust but it can corrode. I don't know about cheaper work with.

Every time I've bent a piece of steel, it bent. Every time I've bent a piece of aluminum, it broke. I've also never seen mandrel bent aluminum pipe before. But you might be able to shed some light on the subject.

 

Probably not, I'm no metallurgistitian.
[talking_from_@ss] I know that Aluminum isn't nearly as dense, ductile or hard as steel. Instead of saying it's cheaper to work with, I should have said "easier" due to it's lighter weight and lower melting point. Steel's hardness requires much more force to actually bend, and consequently, more time for each bend. Alum. on the other hand bends much easier. The faster bend allows less time for the metal to stretch, causing it to break. This lack of hardness/density may be due to a lower percentage of bonds between the individual molecules. Aren't most aluminum CAI's (like AEM and Injen) mandrel-bent? Besides, Aluminum won't stand up as well to exhaust heat, and it's more expensive per pound. I'm guessing that an aluminum Cat-Back would be between Steel and Ti for weight as well as cost, but would be more prone to sagging, leaking and breaking due to the lower melting point.[/talking_from_@ss]

 

look on my page then. My intake is mandrel bent aluminum . Then you cant say you have never seen it. Well I say its mandrel bent...honestly I dont know how they bent it but I do know the pipe isnt pinched down like a normal bend but is the same size all the way through like a mandrel bend.

 

Hey Jeff, I talked to my dad. He said that if you are using a harder grade of aluminum, like 6061, you have to heat it up (anneal it) a little before you bend it. Softer grades, like 3003 will bend easily, but something like 6061 has to be heated first. My dad said he just a propane torch and it bent without any problems. Without the heat though, it just seperated.