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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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What is Independent-Rear Suspension?

Can someone knowlegeable please answer my question? I know this is a feature that is(was) exclusive to 3rd gen maximas until the 6th gen. Thanks alot guys.
Old Dec 22, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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something we dont have
Old Dec 22, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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something we dont have
That's exactly what i was looking for thanks!
Old Dec 22, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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4th gen and up (94+) don't have it. --->they have a sold axle.
3rd gen 89-94 do have it. ----> No solid axle, more complicated basically.
Old Dec 22, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by therealgoon9
4th gen and up (94+) don't have it. --->they have a sold axle.
3rd gen 89-94 do have it. ----> No solid axle, more complicated basically.
you mean 95+ dont have it...94 is still 3rd gen

ha ! more complicated but 100 times better than the retrofitted minivan kid hauler suspension....
Old Dec 22, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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Yeah i meant 95+

I didn't say there was anything wrong with indepent. I frikn love the handling.
Old Dec 22, 2004 | 07:24 PM
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i wasnt being an a$$ i just dont want noobs getting confused cause it just will create another thread
Old Dec 22, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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BTW the 95-03 has the a multi-link beam IIRC. I'm not sure if earlier maxima models had IRS or the beam.
Old Dec 22, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
something we dont have
your in the wrong forum to say we

we = maximas here
you = minima


Old Dec 22, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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i wonder how the 6th gen IRS stacks up to the 3rd....

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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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your in the wrong forum to say we

we = maximas here
you = minima


I was actually giving you guys credit
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxima-4DSC
ha ! more complicated but 100 times better than the retrofitted minivan kid hauler suspension....
makes me all proud about my car again...
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by VG Ill ridah
BTW the 95-03 has the a multi-link beam IIRC. I'm not sure if earlier maxima models had IRS or the beam.
1st gen = RWD w/IRS and 4 wheel disc (excluding SW)
2nd gen = FWD w/ IRS optional 4 wheel disc (not too sure about the SW)
3rd gen = FWD w/ IRS optional 4 wheel disc (no SW)
4 th gen = 4 door nissan quest
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Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
I was actually giving you guys credit
I know your car is in the local classifieds


and dont think I didn't see the WTB: 92-94SE 5spd posted by you in the classifieds



hehehehe


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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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i betcha its better, just because its new and probably uses better technology and parts. but uh, i dunno how well the 6th gen handles because i mean, it IS a boat.
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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Ugh. You 3-gen guys need to drive most any new car. I drove a new 4 cyl camry. Felt more solid than my 3-gen with mods. Mostly because my bushings are mush from 12 years of abuse and years of various fluids leaking all over them.

Theory and reality are 2 different things.
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Ugh. You 3-gen guys need to drive most any new car. I drove a new 4 cyl camry. Felt more solid than my 3-gen with mods. Mostly because my bushings are mush from 12 years of abuse and years of various fluids leaking all over them.

Theory and reality are 2 different things.
i saw my old driving instructor 2 months ago, and he was complaining about how his 01 camry I4 would wobble left to right while going straight during high speeds...
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What did he say about your maxima at high speeds?

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i saw my old driving instructor 2 months ago, and he was complaining about how his 01 camry I4 would wobble left to right while going straight during high speeds...
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
What did he say about your maxima at high speeds?
so far, all my friends and relatives have said that my car is pretty stable at any speed.. and that the seats are comfy.. heh..

but that's maybe because they mostly drive smaller cars like corollas and such.. just maybe...
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxNub91
so far, all my friends and relatives have said that my car is pretty stable at any speed.. and that the seats are comfy.. heh..

but that's maybe because they mostly drive smaller cars like corollas and such.. just maybe...
Thats a top end machine though...VGs are top end killahs!
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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to jeff: hah. One time I drove from coast to coast for 2500miles long, half that distance I drove at a maxed-out cruise control setting @ ~96mph. The car is mad staple as hell. Yeah despite carrying a freight load of goods (personal belongings) and bad wheel alignment. I guess that's because I was using noltec polyu.. bushes. The car drove mad tight. I've felt like a bad ricer on the loose as I passed all the truckers.
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
I know your car is in the local classifieds


and dont think I didn't see the WTB: 92-94SE 5spd posted by you in the classifieds



hehehehe


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nah wasnt me
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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When I forst bought the car, I thought it was buuuuut fugly. But I took it out and was sold when I buried the speedo and felt like I was only doing 60. Sooooooo smooth at high speeds.

Then I lowered it and put in kyb's and now it's a constant battle to keep it under 90.
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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i never felt my car handles good until i put the hydraulics on, now it rides on rails(not that i drive it often, or that fast, but cornering is 100x better)
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Originally Posted by shavedmax
i never felt my car handles good until i put the hydraulics on, now it rides on rails(not that i drive it often, or that fast, but cornering is 100x better)
With hydraulics?
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Originally Posted by dmontzsta
With hydraulics?
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Originally Posted by Maxima-4DSC
Time to get some hydros I guess.
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by therealgoon9
When I forst bought the car, I thought it was buuuuut fugly. But I took it out and was sold when I buried the speedo and felt like I was only doing 60. Sooooooo smooth at high speeds.

Then I lowered it and put in kyb's and now it's a constant battle to keep it under 90.
I drive the highway to and from work and even at stock it's hard to stay within the 65 speed limit. The highway is deserted at night and all I have to do is plug in my dads radar detector/scrambler and theres nothing but like 10 miles from me and the nearest exit. Can't wait until this march when she goes in the shop. hint....hint IRS RULES!!
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dadonfromqueenz
Can someone knowlegeable please answer my question? I know this is a feature that is(was) exclusive to 3rd gen maximas until the 6th gen. Thanks alot guys.
Watch "My Cousin Vinny" They give a nice little lesson on IRS vs. live axle
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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IIRC by looking at the rear suspension when I changed my brake pads, it looks as though there are two lower parallel links with Chapman struts per side. The front has a Macpherson strut and a lower control arm per side.

The 6th gen Maxima has a front Macpherson strut and a lower control arm per side. The rear is a 4-link unit containing one control arm, one lateral link, one trailing link, and one toe-control link per side.

Independent suspension is exactly as the name implies, each wheel is suspended independantly to the adjacent one (The one right across from it) vs. having the two wheels linked by a live-axle (sometimes called a 'beam' axle). The 6th gen's rear suspension is more advanced, but its also carrying around 200lbs+ more and deals with unsprung weight of 17-18" wheel/tires.
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Originally Posted by ScreamingVE
IIRC by looking at the rear suspension when I changed my brake pads, it looks as though there are two lower parallel links with Chapman struts per side. The front has a Macpherson strut and a lower control arm per side.

The 6th gen Maxima has a front Macpherson strut and a lower control arm per side. The rear is a 4-link unit containing one control arm, one lateral link, one trailing link, and one toe-control link per side.

Independent suspension is exactly as the name implies, each wheel is suspended independantly to the adjacent one (The one right across from it) vs. having the two wheels linked by a live-axle (sometimes called a 'beam' axle). The 6th gen's rear suspension is more advanced, but its also carrying around 200lbs+ more and deals with unsprung weight of 17-18" wheel/tires.
Sounds like the 6th gens is a little better than ours.
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 11:37 PM
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Our suspension is really quite simple in back. Three rods and a strut.
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Originally Posted by dmontzsta
With hydraulics?
yup, firmer suspension, less roll on turns, no roll bars whatsoever on the car and it is 100x better than my stock 93, comparable to n34jz's, but i think i still turn better
Old Dec 24, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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But nonetheless it's much heavier also.
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don't matter to me, im not trying to go fast, but i like to take a turn and not feel like im in a boat
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