Shhh... this has been under wraps for a while. Just giving you all a sneak peek.




Eaton M90 sandwiched between a VE lower intake manifold on top, Pontiac GTP manifold on bottom, and a Q45 throttle body on the side.

A little look at the beast to be constructed.

Brian

 

why was I not informed of this?

 

well brian, your a little late on my present but better late than never....j/k....sorta
Good luck on the project, very interested to see the beast released. Keep us updated.

 

will u be sellin' this beast sometime in the near future when its done though??? lol, j/k. try to keep us posted and hope it works out fine.

 

Ummm... *cough* *cough* TOP SECRET !! lol

 

As long as dem texans get their act together my goal is to have it ready by june to treck from Boston to Texas... YEEE HAW

 

If there is demand for a kit, it may be possible for a few to be made.

We'll see how things go with this one, may be a little more power than the stock can handle, but... we will find out!

B

 

so, when will mine be done

hehehhehe

 

Tuesday soon enough?

 

funny thing is some is selling a blower off an electra for $150 on craigslist

 

as in the older electra? 6-71 or 8-71 blowers???

 

much luck to you.

 

your not very liked?
great Job Brian Will this be the first Supercharged VE>?

 

go back to playing with your radiator caps, its a 4DSC AIM joke







first SC VE I know of. I remember that guy who SC'd his VG, that was a cool idea.

 

Dang...ya, you will have to let everyone here know if it works. There are plenty of GTPs from which to pillage such parts...

 

it will be pretty bad a$$ if you pull this off but it looks like its going to take alot of heavy fabrication mainly designing a belt system to work and not slip

also have you checked hood clearence yet

 

Mine is currently bolted to the GTP manifold, but here is an ebay pic.

 

We dont ACTUALLY say that here

 

Looking good Brian. Props on that.

 

hey if he can fit something that's bigger than an NFL football between the manifolds and make it work w/o blowing up the hood...mo powa to him.

 

with a rootes blower, you don't need the upper plenum

 

this should be interesting

 

Thats the beauty of the eaton. it doesnt have to go between the intakes because it takes the place of the upper intake manifold. I had actually considered this a couple of years ago because I had a friend that had one and another friend that was pretty good at fabrication (though he had never tried something like this). Unfortunately the guy that had the blower left town so I never got to talk him out of it and it was more of a wishful thinking kind of thing anyway. I highly doubt I would have really every tried it but it would have been fun to see if I could do it.

I do think it will be difficult to get it to fit under the hood like you say though. I guess it just depends on how good the fabricator is and if he can make a short enough mounting plate for the bottom of the eaton to sit on the lower intake.



1989MaxMan I am pulling for this to work for you. Aaron getting the zemulator working where you can change your ECU will help in tuning for the blower. I would seriously look into getting one.

Good luck because you have your work cut out for you.

 

hmm ok i'll give you that. i guess it's time to break out the TIG welder but this is no small job by any means.

 

bah, hood schmood...

 

Good info Michael. I didn't know much about roots blowers so I was reading some google links just now and your info helps too. I was a little confused at first because the lower intake manifold was on top of the blower, but that's just for the pic I guess, right? (maybe I'm way off)

good luck!

 

Yeah the VE lower was just for size comparison.

Thanks for the encouragement, I have been in contact with Aaron while he has been working on the Zem with Ash. Our ecu is a 16bit instead of 8, so we have to use 2 zem, or whatever modified version Ash comes up with. I have access to ECU burning hardware, so once we get a good tune i'll burn some chips to make this permanant.

There are a couple way of mounting the M90. I want to mount it directly on top of the engine, much like the GTP and all old school Hot Rod engines do, problem is it 90% wont fit under the hood. To keep it under the hood I could mount the SC in a remote location and plumb a line to the intake, but i will have to move the throttle body to the SC intake side and extend the screw out to where i can access an accessory belt. I talked with a rep from Eaton, and he recommended that if I forgo getting a 6 or 8 rib crank pulley made, then switching the SC pulley to a 4-rib, I would have to get 70% wraparound of the belt to get ~the maximum effective use of the screws. Otherwise this thing might slip a lot because of the screws rolling mass compared to the 4-rib belts. I think the Goodyear gator belt, that has the grooved channels, will help in getting better coverage, and ill fab up an idler pulley on either side to get the 70% wraparound.

Brian

 

"injection is nice
But I'd rather be blown"
old hot rod saying

 

that's one of the articles I was reading from google

 

Now we can be blown and injected.. hehe

 

Got some more work done on the manifold design today.... progress is being made!

B

 

pics?


and have you taken any messurements for hood clearence

 

dont go there

 

Plenty of hood clearance.

 

plenty of clearance once you take the hood off....

 

problem solved

 

Mounted sideways...lol

 

thats what I was thinking

 

cut in half and widened

 

Thats a possibility, but I would lose the cooling effects of having it exposed to the outdoor air....