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Old 05-22-2001 | 06:42 PM
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What will it take? Who has done it?
Old 05-22-2001 | 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by Kraus91SE
What will it take? Who has done it?
Scott has claimed 14's w/o NOS on his VG 5-speed. Vitaly has run low 15's on his VG 5-speed w/o NOS. It's funny cuz both Scott & Vitaly have NOS installed. Bret89SER is getting close but hasn't done it yet. There are a few others that have done it but I can't remember their names.
Old 05-23-2001 | 12:56 AM
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It wouldnt really take much...Ypipe, CAI and some good driving skills.
Old 05-23-2001 | 05:10 AM
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it's going to take more than just a CAI and Y....if that were the case we'd have plenty more in the low 15 range...
Old 05-23-2001 | 11:57 AM
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it's going to take more than just a CAI and Y....if that were the case we'd have plenty more in the low 15 range...
Hahaha... like Chris would know anything about Y-pipes and CAI's.
Old 05-23-2001 | 12:49 PM
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To get into 14's I would say.CAI,WSP Y,Cat back,Muffler,High Flow Cat,ECU,UDP,Clutch,Short throw shifter.And then you could probably tap the 14's.But hey that is my guess I dont own a VG so I dont know what they run stock.
Old 05-23-2001 | 12:58 PM
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Nope....

I still doubt it......unless you're an amazing driver those mods will probably only have you in low-mid 15's.... I;m just guessing though

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To get into 14's I would say.CAI,WSP Y,Cat back,Muffler,High Flow Cat,ECU,UDP,Clutch,Short throw shifter.And then you could probably tap the 14's.But hey that is my guess I dont own a VG so I dont know what they run stock.
Old 05-23-2001 | 01:45 PM
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ok.. I want to get into more detail here... The stock VG 5-speed should run 16.5 in the 1/4 mile. Mine ran 16.8 but lets not get into that. If your max is running like new or very well maintained then you could run 16.4-16.6 Stock. With CAI you will run 16.4. Now with the VG maximas.. it is hard to gain the full potential of the CAI unless you have a cat-back exhaust system. I've learned this from my experience having CAI & exhaust. So with just CAI & cat-back you should run 16.2. Add a Y-pipe and Short throw shifter and 16.0 is possible. High flow cat.. and you might get 15.9 but I don't think you will. Add pulleys & new high pressure plate clutch (such as stage II) and 15.8 is acheivable. Advanced timing & high octane fuel and all tuned with a programmed ECU and I don't see why a VG 5-speed can't run low 15's with all the mods I've listed. Get a nice set of sticky tires & lowering springs and you'll be saying Hi to the 14 second club.
Old 05-23-2001 | 01:46 PM
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nevin, didnt you run a 15.4 in your vg auto w/o nos? seems if it can be done in an auto, it could be done much more easy in a 5spd
Old 05-23-2001 | 02:13 PM
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nevin, didnt you run a 15.4 in your vg auto w/o nos? seems if it can be done in an auto, it could be done much more easy in a 5spd
Yeah I ran 15.4@91mph but that is kind of the cheating way. It was definitly not in street form. Here's how I did it.. Totally stripped interior (removed rear seats, passenger seat, door panels, interior speakers & amps, removed carpet mats, removed dash (part of it), stripped out the trunk), relocated optima battery to the trunk, 15x7" drag radials in front w/low tire pressure, high octane race fuel (3 gallons), advanced timing 9 degrees, CAI, cat-back exhaust, upgraded auto tranny (which died on my first run at the track), removed driver side(headlight, clear corner, turn signal, fog light, mud guards), upgraded alternator, 300ZX (fuel filter, fuel injectors, fuel pump), NGK plugs, JE pistons, Crower rods, cut springs (2.75" in front, 2.25" in rear), spring stiffeners in rear, bag of ice (for intake manifold), polished and bored throttle body, Power switch ON, Overdrive OFF, Gear in Drive (not manual shifting). I think that's about it. Pretty simple except for the fact it took me and my car crew half a day to strip my car.. lol. I only got 1 run at the track.. then my tranny died so I had to get it towed back to the tranny shop (tranny was 3 days old).
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Damn.....

thats a lot of sh*t, now I see why your car was the infamous Sky Blue Max!! but do you think the drag radials could have contibuted to the tranny's death?? I've always heard that running DRs on a auto tranny can be risky if the trans isn't in tip top shape...maybe a little too much grip or something?

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I only got 1 run at the track.. then my tranny died so I had to get it towed back to the tranny shop (tranny was 3 days old).
Old 05-23-2001 | 02:25 PM
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Damn with all that s*** you should of ran in the 14's atleast.Do you still have that motor?When I rebuild mine I want to do the internals all up Rods,Pistons,Cams...ETC.Do you think that could of contributed to your tranny failure?
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Re: Damn.....

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thats a lot of sh*t, now I see why your car was the infamous Sky Blue Max!! but do you think the drag radials could have contibuted to the tranny's death?? I've always heard that running DRs on a auto tranny can be risky if the trans isn't in tip top shape...maybe a little too much grip or something?


The drag radials might have contributed a little for the tranny dying. The tires I had on the drag radials were smaller size then stock high so it spun more.. causing more stress on tranny. The shop that built my new tranny specifically made it for high performance. They have never built a tranny like that for a Nissan so I guess this was their "test" design or whatever. That's probably the main reason why it died. When I went back to the tranny shop they offered to change my gears for $2200 more and I told them forget it and to put another stock tranny in and just add a high stall torque converter. I spend too much money on my max.. I could've bought a 4th gen a long time ago..lol but I LOVE the styling of the 3rd gens plus I think the build quality on the 3rd gens is better then 4th gens.
Old 05-23-2001 | 02:30 PM
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Well I have the WSP Y-pipe & CAI on the way (hopefully Friday) I'm not sure what to buy next. An ECU or UDP B-pipe and cat. I already have 17in enkei's,sprint springs, KYB Struts and a straight muffler. Once I get my site up I'll have pic of everything.
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Get a ECU then a cat back.And SkyMax you are a madman.And the guys at this shop are smokin something.For like $2200 plus what you paid to have it rebuilt.It could of been a perfect 5 speed conversion.
Old 05-23-2001 | 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by Kraus91SE
Well I have the WSP Y-pipe & CAI on the way (hopefully Friday) I'm not sure what to buy next. An ECU or UDP B-pipe and cat. I already have 17in enkei's,sprint springs, KYB Struts and a straight muffler. Once I get my site up I'll have pic of everything.
Get the B-pipe & cat first. The ECU should be your last performance mod so you can have it tuned specifically for your current mods.
Old 05-23-2001 | 02:42 PM
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Honestly I don't know why I spent the money for the Ypipe Because I have a turbo and the manifolds for an 86 300zx, The bet part is i only paid $50.00 and the guy said I could have the whole engine. But I know it will be years before I can come up with the rest or the parts I need due to the price. I might change my mind and do NOS because it's cheaper.
Old 05-23-2001 | 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by SkyMax


Hahaha... like Chris would know anything about Y-pipes and CAI's.


Nevin

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Get a ECU then a cat back.And SkyMax you are a madman.And the guys at this shop are smokin something.For like $2200 plus what you paid to have it rebuilt.It could of been a perfect 5 speed conversion.
then he would have been modless....
Old 05-23-2001 | 05:37 PM
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Yeah I ran 15.4@91mph but that is kind of the cheating way. It was definitly not in street form. Here's how I did it.. Totally stripped interior (removed rear seats, passenger seat, door panels, interior speakers & amps, removed carpet mats, removed dash (part of it), stripped out the trunk), relocated optima battery to the trunk, 15x7" drag radials in front w/low tire pressure, high octane race fuel (3 gallons), advanced timing 9 degrees, CAI, cat-back exhaust, upgraded auto tranny (which died on my first run at the track), removed driver side(headlight, clear corner, turn signal, fog light, mud guards), upgraded alternator, 300ZX (fuel filter, fuel injectors, fuel pump), NGK plugs, JE pistons, Crower rods, cut springs (2.75" in front, 2.25" in rear), spring stiffeners in rear, bag of ice (for intake manifold), polished and bored throttle body, Power switch ON, Overdrive OFF, Gear in Drive (not manual shifting). I think that's about it. Pretty simple except for the fact it took me and my car crew half a day to strip my car.. lol. I only got 1 run at the track.. then my tranny died so I had to get it towed back to the tranny shop (tranny was 3 days old).
Holy crap dude, you did all that and only got to 15.4?
Old 05-23-2001 | 05:47 PM
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Holy crap dude, you did all that and only got to 15.4?
considering a stock VG AUTO runs 17.0 to 17.2 i'd say that's pretty damn respectable...our cars arent THAT fast ya know....
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yeah, but if he had a 5spd, that quite possibly could be in the 14's.
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yeah, but if he had a 5spd, that quite possibly could be in the 14's.
Old 05-23-2001 | 05:57 PM
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I realy want to find out what I can do the 1/4 in but we only have an 1/8th mile track in Savannah, what about a GTECH PRO?
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I have heard that G-Tech pro is not that reliable.Man I dont care as soon as I get the money I will perform my dream.I dont care how much it costs.3rd Gen.VQ speed.It will happen.
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Originally posted by Kraus91SE
I realy want to find out what I can do the 1/4 in but we only have an 1/8th mile track in Savannah, what about a GTECH PRO?
GTech is pretty accurate....it's about .1 to .3 seconds off...
Old 05-23-2001 | 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by Chris91SE


considering a stock VG AUTO runs 17.0 to 17.2 i'd say that's pretty damn respectable...our cars arent THAT fast ya know....
MINE IS!!!
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Originally posted by Dirksmoothe


MINE IS!!!
ummm...you have a VE....
Old 05-23-2001 | 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by Chris91SE


ummm...you have a VE....
I am just playin' you guys. I love the Maxima, not just the VE max's but all Maximas. well, some second gen's are kinda ugly, but hey, there is a black sheep in every family!
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