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Old 10-31-2005, 09:24 AM
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Sputtering and vibrations

Hi, My Maxima '91 with 92K miles started developing occasional sputtering and low vibration. The symptoms have increased since I observed this first in July. After my 90K miles service I thought the symptoms disappeared completely but it is still there!

Also, the gas mileage has been deteriorating -- 12 gallons fetching only 190 miles (citi) or so. But in highway it gives me 290 miles.

Can anyone suggest the possible cause of this? Please let me know if you need additional information. Appreciate your input before I take it for servicing!!

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Old 10-31-2005, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mukundan
...92K miles started developing occasional sputtering ...
Seems like mymax 2˝yrs ago as I got it... read the things I found, corrected and documented here: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/748507/1
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Old 10-31-2005, 10:25 AM
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Thanks Wiking for the fast response!
Great site that you forwarded! Can you please direct me to the specific page?
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Old 10-31-2005, 10:35 AM
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Typical first problem is plugs, cap, wiring. My second was TPS (cold), then oxidized connectors & groundings like cam pos sensor gnd in the distributor, pages: 6,10,12,14.
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Old 11-02-2005, 07:34 AM
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Hi,
Today, I gave my car for servicing and they diagnozed that my #3 and #5 injectors are not showing any voltage at all :-(

But when I looked at the ECU codes all I saw was 5 red and 5 greens. Is it because my Maxima is 1991 year?

And does this justify the low mileage I have been experiencing?

Please post your comments....Thanks in advance!
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Old 11-02-2005, 08:54 AM
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Wiking needs to get a VE so we all can get the full benefit of his ability.
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:26 AM
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My Maxima is 91 GXE. Any help?
I see that Wiking is off today...
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bhunter
Wiking needs to get a VE so we all can get the full benefit of his ability.
Smbdy get the hat, start passing along. Send it to me after VE-mon€u is pouring over from tHat Hat.

Camera batteries have been loaded already for writing new VE FSM... Maybe for VQ also?

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"they diagnozed that my #3 and #5 injectors are not showing any voltage at all :-("
- they desperately need $$$ to pay their rent?
- take screwdriver, place it on each injector, ear on handle. Listen. If all injectors make the same noise, they do get their voltage, wirings about ok, they do work mechanically. (still no warranty that they do work properly)
- However, the day comes to swap them.
- Bad KS and/or O2 will cause bad mileage. Dragging brakes...?

Our BDII ECU is reliable: It will show error codes ONLY in the junkyard... Take one injector wire out, view for ECU: is it still happy55??
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:47 AM
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OK Wiking! I learned my lesson! I need to take out that screwdriver and start the investigation. Do you have any website links on Fuel Injector replacement? The tools needed, DO's and DONT's etc.
Thanks!
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mukundan
...take out that screwdriver and start the investigation...
Injector swap will be the last one [for me] for stuttering engine:
- stickies; maybe craigs page?
- search the .org
- google

Btw. For the filthy rich, theres also the mechanics -s*** hos cope- maybe 6$. Youll also look respectable like a doc (or dog?) them hanging around neck...
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:35 PM
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i had sputtering problems with my '90. the problem was with the #1 injector...got it replaced and 3 months later it started again. instead of changing them out as they go out i changed them all. to save some $ i bought used ones from a salvage yard and had it cleaned and mapped.car runs excellent.

parts i bought

plenum gasket
upper intake manifold gasket
o rings (2 per injector)
fuel filter
carb cleaner (clean out air plenum while it was out)
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Old 11-03-2005, 12:35 AM
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1. Havin problematic x, replacing y will NOT hlp.

2. Havin problematic y, replacing y will hlp. YESS, do it!

1 + 2 = Imperative FOR YOU is to differentiate between x & y; no amount of work, parts, pills & bill$ will NOT hlp if diagnosis is wrong. Repairing x&y is triple costly.

Go to a doc, in clinic or cars-hop. Definitely pills & diags will be sub$cribed. They will surely hlp...to Secure next 5$ promo -caribbeancruise for the doc. Hangin scope hlps.
Imperative FOR YOU is to differentiate between caribbean & scope ...pill$???

When goin to a 'doc', ALWAYS take second opinion.
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:00 PM
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So far 3 injectors have gone bad in my car. 3 more to go!! Don't know how soon. Any ideas how to keep the injectors clean?
Premium gas? Does Ethanol play some role in this fouling of injectors?

From what I heard, none of the above seems to be the answer!

I am gonna get my Fuel Injector degree soon
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Old 11-03-2005, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mukundan
... how to keep the injectors clean?...
wrap in plastics?

as u get u degree, u can teach us what kinda plastics....
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my 1990 VG sometimes spudders around 2,000 rpm i can watch the tach go up and down as it spudders i havent figured it out yet
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Old 11-06-2005, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jvstang
... it spudders i havent figured it out yet
I wrote a novel about that http://www.cardomain.com/ride/748507/1
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Originally Posted by jvstang
my 1990 VG sometimes spudders around 2,000 rpm i can watch the tach go up and down as it spudders i havent figured it out yet

I had the same prob with my 90 a year ago after i put new plat plugs, and wires in. I replaced the rotor and cap and the prob went away. Pop your cap off and scrape the tip of the rotor clean with a flat head or something. If it works then you just need a new rotor.......
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Old 11-07-2005, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by cruzanstrouble
I had the same prob with my 90 a year ago after i put new plat plugs, and wires in. I replaced the rotor and cap and the prob went away. Pop your cap off and scrape the tip of the rotor clean with a flat head or something. If it works then you just need a new rotor.......
Let me try to differentiate the 2 problems I had with similar symptoms:
1. Starting problem and dying (and the shaking was more violent)... noticed after I parked the car out in the rain overnight -- battery, rotors & cap.
2. Sputtering (listen to the exhaust - you will surely notice it) and bad mileage -- fuel-injectors
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