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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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replaced rear struts, now they go clunk

So I replaced my rear strut assemblies today with disk brake ones, and SE springs, but since my dad is a tight wad i had to put gabriel strut inserts in them and i used the boot/bump stops from internetautomart. so i got everything together, and put it on my car. So now when i drive around every time i hit a little bit of a bump, it sounds like hitting a speed bump at 30 ph, you know a real loud THUNK then at like 45-50 mph or so you can hear what sounds like a tire rubbing but neather are anywhere near the struts, is this happening cause God hates me, i'm an idiot and some how put mine together wrong but managed to get ArcticDC5's together right (we assembled our struts at the same suspension meet, i just never got around to putting them on), or is it becuase of the cheepo strut cartriges? oh and lastly, do you guys think its harmful, or just REALY annoying?
Old Nov 25, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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ANYTHING that goes "thunk" is bad. Track it down.
Old Nov 26, 2005 | 06:07 AM
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Been there done that. First thing to check would be torque on all of the nuts that you had to remove and put back. I missed a couple nuts on the passenger strut tower and they were clunking every time I backed up from the driveway.
Old Nov 26, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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on my 96 I had a bad clunk with expensive struts and springs. Tighten up the strut mount bolts and report back here this fixed mine.

I am about to install gabriel cartidges on my Max.....ive used GR2's and they clunked after a month. What did your friend use? Insect the struts for leaking oil, she may blown already.
Old Nov 26, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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also tighten the gland packing nut
Old Nov 26, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 96ItaliaSE
Tighten up the strut mount bolts
May I add: Tighten to spec, including center nut. Overtight is bad. I had to bail myself out of overtight replacing my struts.

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also tighten the gland packing nut
Yes. But.... my Tokicos came with the instruction that in some cases (whether it was for the Max or just in general) a spacer might be needed between the gland nut and the top of the cartridge, and included one. If the gland nut bottoms out... need spacer.

twinkle: if you get to the point that you are disassembling struts again, try pushing the piston all the way down the pulling up... you might confirm that a spacer is needed by feeling or listening.

Gabriel (sigh), are they still in business? (sarcasm intented)
Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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May I suggest simply riding in the back seat to track down the noise? Or, jacking the car up high enough to get the wheel off the ground and using a prybar to lift up and down under the tire?

Simple things first.
Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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I had the same problem, needed that spacer. The shock was bouncing around without that spacer.
Old Nov 26, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jkuchta
I had the same problem, needed that spacer. The shock was bouncing around without that spacer.
but only one ismissing the spacer, and bothare "clunking"
Old Nov 26, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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Dump 5 gallons of gas on and in car. Light match and throw in car. Walk away briskly. Go get a new car with new struts.
Old Nov 26, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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Sometimes I get tired of fixing crap, I wish I could actually do that.
Old Nov 27, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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Check the nut that holds the top of the strut piston to the strut mount. Mine had to be re-tightened once I drove the car for a bit.
Old Nov 27, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ke5adb
Dump 5 gallons of gas on and in car. Light match and throw in car. Walk away briskly. Go get a new car with new struts.

i have put entirely too much work into this car to go and do that,.I actually did fix it today tho, it turned out that i left the spacers that go by the gland out (oops) at least now ihave SE springs, and 4 wheel disk brakes the ride is alot sportyer now
Old Nov 27, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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Hey I want 4 disc and better struts, mine bounce like crazy when there's a bump and I'm going through a curve. Was the conversion simple?

Do you need ABS to convert to 4 discs or it just uses disc without needing ABS?
Old Nov 27, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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you can just use the rear disc, no need to futz with ABS
Old Nov 27, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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You just made my day then...BUT does it have be with SE struts or can I just use SE rear disc with GR-2s
Old Nov 27, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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the rear struts are just cartridge replacements. you need the housing off any rear disc 3rd gen
Old Nov 27, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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you will also need to get the hand brake cable off the car with 4 wheel disks, the calipurs, and soft brake lines, or you can get new calipurs and SS lines
Old Nov 27, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by twinkle
you will also need to get the hand brake cable off the car with 4 wheel disks, the calipurs, and soft brake lines, or you can get new calipurs and SS lines
Now that you mention, how much did doing all this cost you?
Old Nov 27, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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I only had to pay for the cartriges, everthing this else came off the car i wrecked, the some car i got the 5 speed swap stuff and the interior from
Old May 15, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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gland nut spacer?

I've had this same problem now since replacing my rear strut cartridges with KYB's. Loud knocking/clucking when I have suspension travel, but it's only on the drivers side. I've double and triple checked all the strut tower, strut mount and gland nuts to spec.

If my problem is in fact the spacers that go between the top of the strut cartridge and the gland nut can I use a common washer or what do you guys reccomend?
Old May 15, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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did you use the gland nut included with the strut or the original one?
Old May 16, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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I used the originals....
Old May 16, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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I am wondering if the KYB center nuts that hold down the Gabriel cartridges into the sleeve isn't long enough for the gabriels. So I am guessing the cartridges are moving up and down when going over bumps.
Old May 16, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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when you replace them, use the nut included for the correct fit. otherwise you MAY have problems
Old May 17, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Using the provided gland packing nuts makes sense, however when I tried to assemble the strut assemblys with the kyb's the provided gland nut didn't seem to fit, nor did it want to thread into the factory assembly. Am I just nuts or has anyone else had this problem.

Would you reccomend placing a washer at the top of the cartridge and have the strut rod go through it, or would you place a solid washer at the bottom of the strut assembly? I realize niether is ideal but I need a quick fix.
Old May 17, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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neither, I'd recommend making the nut work correctly.
I know some people here will have advice on making it work
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