Intake swap question....
12-20-2005, 06:08 PM
#3
yeah thats true. the vg dont flow form $hit either though mark how hard do you think it would be to due the 93 pathy manifold. Im dam near maybe tying it as I have one in the shop
12-20-2005, 09:20 PM
#4
with some shaving of the manifolds (top of the lower, bottom of the upper) it might clear the hood... but, being aluminum there'd be a good chance that the flanges could break if they were too thin.
02-10-2006, 08:04 AM
#9
well lets post some pics and compare....
VE upper and lower intake
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post a VG Max and a VG Pathy intake and we can compare inlet runner sizes and shapes.
But the main problem is making sure the bolting surfaces align to the heads and the injector bosses line up as well as the bolting holes.
VE upper and lower intake
*This is for sale by the way (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMESE%3AIT)
post a VG Max and a VG Pathy intake and we can compare inlet runner sizes and shapes.
But the main problem is making sure the bolting surfaces align to the heads and the injector bosses line up as well as the bolting holes.
02-10-2006, 08:43 AM
#11
the truck manifolds seem to match up....they're all vg33 engines right?
i believe the vg33 head should be the same as the vg30 heads which should mean that the intakes are interchangeable...
so who's gonna put the xterra s/c on their 3rd gen?
i believe the vg33 head should be the same as the vg30 heads which should mean that the intakes are interchangeable...
so who's gonna put the xterra s/c on their 3rd gen?
02-10-2006, 09:06 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by DaWifey's90
the truck manifolds seem to match up....they're all vg33 engines right?
i believe the vg33 head should be the same as the vg30 heads which should mean that the intakes are interchangeable...
so who's gonna put the xterra s/c on their 3rd gen?
i believe the vg33 head should be the same as the vg30 heads which should mean that the intakes are interchangeable...
so who's gonna put the xterra s/c on their 3rd gen?
02-18-2006, 04:41 PM
#15
Originally Posted by DaWifey's90
just a point of curiousity...many of the p/n for the intake manifold gaskets of the vg and ve are the same
02-27-2006, 08:52 PM
#16
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300zx intake manifold on 92 max se?
i heard, im not sure where, that the 300zx is the same exact motor but the max motor is a little tamer. im thinkin of trying a 92 300z manifold swap is this heard of? and also what else makes the max tamer? and is it just as simple to replace one with the other?
02-28-2006, 04:12 AM
#17
well there hasn't been much confirmation as to the breakdown of who has the staggered runners vs the inline ones. i'm not sure if it's a ve/vg distinction or certain production years or se/gxe or a manual/auto distinction. that being said, we know the pathy intake will fit a max which has the inline runner setup and we know the pathy will fit a 300z as well. so i would think it stands to reason that the 300z would fit the max. then of course there are all the peripherals u have to concern urself with like the TB cable, hoses, harnesses and so on.
02-28-2006, 09:15 AM
#19
Originally Posted by DaWifey's90
well there hasn't been much confirmation as to the breakdown of who has the staggered runners vs the inline ones. i'm not sure if it's a ve/vg distinction or certain production years or se/gxe or a manual/auto distinction. that being said, we know the pathy intake will fit a max which has the inline runner setup and we know the pathy will fit a 300z as well. so i would think it stands to reason that the 300z would fit the max. then of course there are all the peripherals u have to concern urself with like the TB cable, hoses, harnesses and so on.
84-89 300ZX - Straight line ports
89-94 Maxima (VG) - Staggered ports
92-94 Maxima (VE) - Staggered ports
Pathfinder/Pickup VG30E - Straight line ports
Pathfinder/Pickup VG33E - Straight line ports, composite intake (based on pictures I've seen)
I believe the 200SX with the VG30E used the 2nd gen Max/Z31 intake style so it would have straight line ports.
I have the upper and lower intakes from the 3rd gen Maxima, VG30E Pathfinder, 2nd gen Maxima, and Z31 300ZX Turbo. If memory serves, the lower plenum from the 2nd gen Maxima, Z31's, and the Pathfinder w/VG30E are all the same. The upper plenums are what changed between those. The 3rd gen Maxima uses a different lower plenum from those.
02-28-2006, 09:48 AM
#20
nice breakdown!!
definitely sticky worthy
so if this is the case, why aren't more vg folks swapping intakes to the ve style?
i would think this is a no brainer. straight-er runners, shorter intake route
is the gain not that much or are there other complications i'm missing?
definitely sticky worthy
so if this is the case, why aren't more vg folks swapping intakes to the ve style?
i would think this is a no brainer. straight-er runners, shorter intake route
is the gain not that much or are there other complications i'm missing?
03-01-2006, 11:14 AM
#21
VE is DOHC while VG is SOHC so the lower plenum is a totally different size and the VE used a round port (as picture above) while the VG uses and oval port... you could however design a VE style intake to work on the VG lower (new or old style), you just wouldn't easily be able to swap the VE one on.
I'll likely do something like that eventually but for the moment I'm just going to replace that aluminum elbow and throttle body with a single throttle body setup and such so that my aftercooler pipes will route much easier.
3rd gen Maxima VG lower plenum port style:
(Note: this is the plate that goes between the upper and lower manifold to connect the two)
I'll likely do something like that eventually but for the moment I'm just going to replace that aluminum elbow and throttle body with a single throttle body setup and such so that my aftercooler pipes will route much easier.
3rd gen Maxima VG lower plenum port style:
(Note: this is the plate that goes between the upper and lower manifold to connect the two)
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