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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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anyone run 5mm spacers?

I put on some 5mm spacers for the rear wheels, since they were sitting very close to the strut housing. I am talking less than an inch. I think my next set of rims will have a wider offset. These are 17x7 42mm offset and I think I need 40 at the minimum, but preferrably 35-38ish.

It seems to run fine with no problems (no wobbling that I can tell), but I was wondering if anyone else had done this? I took it to a shop and they checked everything out and did the install. They are also aluminum spacers with two bolt patterns, which I wasn't too thrilled about. He said that usually people just put spacers on the front to clear brakes and I was the first person to ask for them to be done on the rear.

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I was at a local rice shop the other day and he had spacers on his rear wheel.
they were the universal type though
on the rear I wouldn't worry too much about spacers as the only real torque it will ever see is under braking and even then it will be significantly less than the front.
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hey Chris can you get some pics with the spacers on there, i wanna put spacers on with my 17s and i was hoping i could see how far that pushes them out.
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what is your offset?

Mine looked way tucked in with the 42mm offset. If I have some daylight left after work, I will try to get some pics.
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im pretty sure my offset is +40. i want to push them out a bit. my 18x8 were a +30 offset and that was perfect. so im trying to do the math on the 17x7 +40 to figure out what is the best spacer size to go with.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tripleGmax
im pretty sure my offset is +40. i want to push them out a bit. my 18x8 were a +30 offset and that was perfect. so im trying to do the math on the 17x7 +40 to figure out what is the best spacer size to go with.

I run spacers in the rear w/ my SSRs. They are 6mm which changes the rear offset from +45 to +39 and allows them to clear. I have longer studs on the car now, before I didn't and didn't have any issues then either.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizeree_X
I run spacers in the rear w/ my SSRs. They are 6mm which changes the rear offset from +45 to +39 and allows them to clear. I have longer studs on the car now, before I didn't and didn't have any issues then either.
I guess mine would be equal to +37, since I have +42 wheels.

Hey, Mizeree, what did your spacers look like? Do they fit exactly, or are they kind of universal? What material?

The ones they put on had two patterns and a larger center than my hub.

I was looking at mine when I got to work and they are also very slightly visible behind my wheel. Not really noticeable, but if you know where to look, you spot them.
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I might be but I can't remember. I wanted to put some on the front, but I need like a 1/8th ones for the front
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an 1/8 of a mm? lol
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tripleGmax
an 1/8 of a mm? lol

1/8" fool. Or did you forget that domestics use the same bolt pattern as we do? What do you think I am running? 1/4" ~ 6mm.

Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin
I guess mine would be equal to +37, since I have +42 wheels.

Hey, Mizeree, what did your spacers look like? Do they fit exactly, or are they kind of universal? What material?

The ones they put on had two patterns and a larger center than my hub.

I was looking at mine when I got to work and they are also very slightly visible behind my wheel. Not really noticeable, but if you know where to look, you spot them.
They are universal types. They look ugly, but get the job done. You can get some better-looking, non-universal ones on ebay for like $40.
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Originally Posted by Mizeree_X
1/8" fool. Or did you forget that domestics use the same bolt pattern as we do? What do you think I am running? 1/4" ~ 6mm.




I'm not sure what I have in the back though
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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TripleG -- here are some pics:


straight on from the rear


you can see how far they go from the side better


image of the actual spacer you can see through the wheel (silver part)

Sorry about the lack of center cap and the dirt. I ordered two new caps. Part of the reason I needed spacers was because it was so close to the hub it cracked the part that holds the center in place.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Those look like the cheap Mr Gasket universal type. I had a pair I put on when I had the 92SE that PA owns. I wanted to see how it looked but I couldnt put enough threads on the lugs (maybe it was how the wheels were made) for it to be safe to drive on. I think it was like 4 or 5 rotations or something and Matt said that wasnt very safe so I decided to take them off.

I was going to buy the good Eibach 5mm ones that come with the new studs and are hub centric but sold the car instead.
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I think you are right about the cheap part, but I don't think they are unsafe. I got them installed at an alignment shop. The guy has been in business for over 20 years. He had them laying around the shop and installed them for free. It was his idea to put them on, since I had the broken center caps. I think it looks so-so. I like the width better, but not crazy about being able to actually see the spacers.

I think now I have to install the mud flaps I bought from Mizeree like 2 or 3 years ago.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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when i put some 17inch maxima wheels on my car off a newer one, i had to get a hammer, and bend the peice of the strut the tire was hitting, and also had to roll the inside of my fenders up with a rubber mallet cus they rubbed when i hit a bump
i had the wheels for a week and sold them.
IMO anything over 16inch is over kill
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
i had to get a hammer, and bend the peice of the strut the tire was hitting, and also had to roll the inside of my fenders up with a rubber mallet
that can't be good
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
IMO anything over 16inch is over kill
I will say it again...the wheel size (height) doesnt make a difference in the tire rubbing to a degree. Sure if you get 19 or 20s on our car you would have to go with such a big tire in order to have anything but a rubber band that it would be really tall but on 17s and 18s you can have a thick enough tire to have a good ride and still be at the factory tire diameter. The biggest factor in tires rubbing is the offset. 15s or 16s will rub if you get the wrong offset or tire size.

If you are saying that 16s are overkill because you dont like the look of 17s or 18s thats fine because its your opinion but to say they are overkill because of rubbing issues is just nonsense...its all in the offset.


My new wheels I will be getting soon will be the perfect offset and width.

They are 17x8 with a 35mm offset. With a 235/45 tire I should have no tire rubbing problems and the tire height will be factory size.


Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin
I think you are right about the cheap part, but I don't think they are unsafe. I got them installed at an alignment shop. The guy has been in business for over 20 years.
They may not be unsafe for your wheel. My wheel may have had a thicker pad on it where the lug nuts go . I know I put them on and it only took like 4 or 5 (maybe a little more...cant remember) complete revolutions before it was snug. I asked Randy and Matt if that was safe and both said they wouldnt recommend it so I took them off.


You can always paint them to match your rotors btw and then you will never know they are on there.
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if your car is lowerd, and you try to run 17's with anything over a 45 series tire, yes you will rub! when turning sharp, and also running over bumps and bouncy roads.
my car is lowerd on 1.75 springs and kyb gr2 struts, and the tires hit the tires were tucked in the rear.
17's are too big for the 3rd gen maxima if your lowerd.
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
if your car is lowerd....
17's are too big for the 3rd gen maxima if your lowerd.
There's alot of ppl that throw on 18's with no problem, your alignment is fugged up. And i'm not talking about your car. I don't know how much longer you going to prove your an idiot.
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
if your car is lowerd, and you try to run 17's with anything over a 45 series tire, yes you will rub! when turning sharp, and also running over bumps and bouncy roads.
my car is lowerd on 1.75 springs and kyb gr2 struts, and the tires hit the tires were tucked in the rear.
17's are too big for the 3rd gen maxima if your lowerd.
there is WAY more to what will and will not rub than you are realizing.
in THEORY you can run a 24" diameter rim. just good luck finding one narrow enough and a tire to fit it
Old Mar 16, 2006 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
if your car is lowerd, and you try to run 17's with anything over a 45 series tire, yes you will rub! when turning sharp, and also running over bumps and bouncy roads.
my car is lowerd on 1.75 springs and kyb gr2 struts, and the tires hit the tires were tucked in the rear.
17's are too big for the 3rd gen maxima if your lowerd.
You are a dufus!

Over 1/2 of the people on this board run 17s or 18s and have no rubbing problems. You just weren't smart enough to get the correct offset. Obviously the wheels you had rubbed because they were offset too far in or too far out or you had the wrong size tire.

Also the "series" of tire isn't as important as the width. With 17s, you pretty much have to get 45 series tires, but you need the correct width to fit in the wheel wells. I know in the past Jeff has run 245s on 8 inch rims without rubbing.

My tires didn't rub, even with a +42 offset that was "tucked in." I just wanted the wheels out a little farther and I had trouble cracking center caps on the hub. If I had the same wheels with about a +38 offset, I would have no issues of any kind.

Just like Michael said, he is going to put on 17x8 rims with a +35 offset and 235/45/17s and he won't have any issues. Everyone else with big wheels have the right offset and the right size tires and have no problems.
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Originally Posted by Mizeree_X
1/8" fool.
haha i was just messin around.

Chris, thanks for the pics, i think it looks alot better back there.
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Originally Posted by backNblackj30
if your car is lowerd, and you try to run 17's with anything over a 45 series tire, yes you will rub! when turning sharp, and also running over bumps and bouncy roads.
my car is lowerd on 1.75 springs and kyb gr2 struts, and the tires hit the tires were tucked in the rear.
17's are too big for the 3rd gen maxima if your lowerd.



Why do you want to run over a 45 series tire? You run the RIGHT tire size for the wheel size you have. See the way it works is...if you go to a bigger wheels you go to a smaller tire so that the final diameter of the tire is the same as factory. The correct (or closest to it) diameter and best size for a 17 is 235/45. That is really close to the factory size so your speedometer will be correct and with the RIGHT OFFSET you will get no rubbing at all.

What springs do you have again? I had Intrax which are 1.75 (what you claim so maybe you have intrax) and I had no rubbing at all with a 17x7.5 with 35mm offset. I also had 18x7s on my car with a high offset (stuck the wheel farther in) and I didnt have a problem with rubbing then either.

ITS IS ALL ABOUT OFFSET...THE RIGHT OFFSET AND YOU WILL GET NO RUBBING.

Oh an before you start talking about how heavy it is to have bigger wheels let me stop you right there and tell you its not always that way. My old 18s are lighter with and without tires than your factory 15s. The new 17s I am getting are the same way.

We are a little more knowledgeable on here than you give us credit and dont try to fit wheels and tires on our cars by jacking it up like in that picture. Heck even Shavedmax who has 20s is lower than you...WAY lower than you or anyone on here for that matter. He knew what he was doing and got the correct offset to make it work.


Again I am not attacking your opinion if you dont like bigger wheels because of looks but your statements about them rubbing and such is just unfounded and untrue.
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if i'm running 225/40/18's and I am rubbing badly on the inside, what is the better size of tire should I get. I am going to find some spacers I think too
Old Mar 16, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by aw89maxSE
if i'm running 225/40/18's and I am rubbing badly on the inside, what is the better size of tire should I get. I am going to find some spacers I think too
get the right offset or if you dont want to change wheels then get spacers.

I wouldnt go smaller than 225/40 though.
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Originally Posted by aw89maxSE
if i'm running 225/40/18's and I am rubbing badly on the inside, what is the better size of tire should I get. I am going to find some spacers I think too
Thats my exact setup and i have NO problems
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Originally Posted by PovCityHustla
Thats my exact setup and i have NO problems
yeah but like michaels been saying, its all about the offset. his offset i assume is really high so its hitting the strut dealy.

your offset looks low and/or you have a narrow wheel.
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Thats my exact setup and i have NO problems
are you dropped 2.0 inches
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are you dropped 2.0 inches
From the sig pic, it looks like he has springs off of a Z71 Silverado...
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17x8" with a 40 or 45 series 245 = perfection

or 235/45r17








IMHO, 17" is the perfect size for these cars. Enough to give it some umph, 18" it's hard to pull off without it being too much.
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Originally Posted by MrGone
18" it's hard to pull off without it being too much.
yet I did it to perfection .

I am hopefully ordering my new 17s monday...as soon as I get paid for working on this stupid 200SX. Do car work buy car stuff that way the wife stays happy . Of course I need to sell my trans or find some more side work in order to buy tires lol.
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Did someone mention perfection?
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Did someone mention perfection?


Good looking and light. Doesn't get much better...
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Did someone mention perfection?

Yes and you meet the qualifications
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Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin


Good looking and light. Doesn't get much better...

It does if it is better-looking and just as light

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Spacer disqualification

Originally Posted by Mizeree_X
It does if it is better-looking and just as light

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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Spacer disqualification
Stolen disqualification
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