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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Ve Rwd?

was there ever a RWD trans for the VE30DE engine? i've got a wrecked maxima and a slow AE86 that is begging for 190hp.
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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VG AND VE have the same bellhousing, so you could use any year 300zx trans.. dohc or sohc
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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I think the Z32 rwd tranny bolts up. I "think" being the operative word. But IMHO, the heavy and huge VE30DE isn't really my idea of a good swap motor. Sorry to say but a VQ series would be a much better choice. There might be JDM rwd tranny available. If not a RWD G or Z tranny
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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the Z31 or Z32 tranny will work. it's a VG bellhousing pattern. might have to do some funky work on the flywheel to get a starter to mate, but I'd think you can use a Z32 flywheel and it'll be fine.
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Z32 has the same crank bolt pattern as the VE?
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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iirc, yes. both 8 bolt i'm pretty sure.
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I think the Z32 rwd tranny bolts up. I "think" being the operative word. But IMHO, the heavy and huge VE30DE isn't really my idea of a good swap motor. Sorry to say but a VQ series would be a much better choice. There might be JDM rwd tranny available. If not a RWD G or Z tranny
Is the VE really that heavy compared to good motors for swaps?
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PunkFriday
was there ever a RWD trans for the VE30DE engine? i've got a wrecked maxima and a slow AE86 that is begging for 190hp.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I think the Z32 rwd tranny bolts up. I "think" being the operative word. But IMHO, the heavy and huge VE30DE isn't really my idea of a good swap motor. Sorry to say but a VQ series would be a much better choice. There might be JDM rwd tranny available. If not a RWD G or Z tranny
He's right. A 95-99 VQ30DE can be had for 300-400$ in junkyards. He'd end up paying 600-700$ for RWD Z33 6-speed tranny. Both the engine and transmission are bulletproof. Especially in a AE86. Ceramic coated ebay headers can be had for 200$.

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Is the VE really that heavy compared to good motors for swaps?
It is over 100 lbs heavier than the VQ.
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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Anybody know if the VQ is lighter then the RB? Probably is, since the RB is cast iron. What about RB lighter then VE? Probably..
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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Anybody know if the VQ is lighter then the RB? Probably is, since the RB is cast iron. What about RB lighter then VE? Probably..
Yes it is,,,,,weight of cast iron block > weight of aluminum v6.
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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whats that 90's-ish infiniti thats rear wheel w\ a vg? (m-30 or 45?)
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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J30. Automatic only. I think theres an m30 as well Im not sure.

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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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J30. Automatic only. I think theres an m30 as well Im not sure.

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M30 = VG30E RWD
J30 = VG30DE RWD
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Nissan 6
Yes it is,,,,,weight of cast iron block > weight of aluminum v6.
What about VE?
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by VEvolution
What about VE?
The ve also has an iron block...
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Doesn't he own one?

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The ve also has an iron block...
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Doesn't he own one?

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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
The ve also has an iron block...
No, I know that.. How does it compare with the RB in weight?


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Doesn't he own one?
Sure do.. And damn proud of it!

Edit: Wow, your really goin all out with those pointers Green
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Wait. If nissan 6 just got done stating an IRON block is heavier than a aluminum V6 AND you state you already knew the VE had an iron block.... what's with this question?

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What about VE?
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Wait. If nissan 6 just got done stating an IRON block is heavier than a aluminum V6 AND you state you already knew the VE had an iron block.... what's with this question?
Huh? The RB is iron, correct? So is the VE.. Yeah? My question is which is heavier?
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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The RB is iron. Who in the hell doesn't know that? Your question in no way implies you want a comparison inbetween the VE and RB. Except in your head where imaginary GTOs are bought.

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Huh? The RB is iron, correct? So is the VE.. Yeah? My question is which is heavier?
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
The RB is iron. Who in the hell doesn't know that? Your question in no way implies you want a comparison inbetween the VE and RB. Except in your head where imaginary GTOs are bought.
What do you mean? Of course I did.. http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...9&postcount=18 Read carefully next time.. Your making me go crazy here double checkin myself

Heh, whats that suppose to mean? Nobody buys GTOs?
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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Sorry that's AFTER. How about posting carefully?
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
The RB is iron. Who in the hell doesn't know that? Your question in no way implies you want a comparison inbetween the VE and RB. Except in your head where imaginary GTOs are bought.

I Don't
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by VEvolution
Anybody know if the VQ is lighter then the RB? Probably is, since the RB is cast iron. What about RB lighter then VE? Probably..
The RB26 is an incredibly heavy engine compared to the VQ. Easily 200 lbs more than the V6.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 04:51 AM
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What's it matter? If you can FIND an RB26, then we'll worry about it. As it stand they're completely unobtainable so it's kind of a moot point, isn't it?

Although, I must say, an RB26 in an AE86 would be bad ***.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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He'd end up paying 600-700$ for RWD Z33 6-speed tranny. Both the engine and transmission are bulletproof.
The 350Z tranny is actually considered a relatively weak transmission. The Z32 5-speed is much stronger. If using the VQ you really have no other option though, which kind of bites.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Sorry that's AFTER. How about posting carefully?
Why don't you look to BEFORE, and you'll notice that I did as well.

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Anybody know if the VQ is lighter then the RB? Probably is, since the RB is cast iron. What about RB lighter then VE? Probably..


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The RB26 is an incredibly heavy engine compared to the VQ. Easily 200 lbs more than the V6.
The real question at the moment should be.. Is the RB lighter then the VE?
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it doesn't matter how heavy the RB is.. you're not going to do it anyway.
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
it doesn't matter how heavy the RB is.. you're not going to do it anyway.
O rly? I'm going to do it now to prove you wrong.











oh wait... hmmmm... can I borrow your car?
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Originally Posted by VEvolution
The real question at the moment should be.. Is the RB lighter then the VE?
No, the real question is can an RB fit in a radio flyer?







No Radio Flyer, No Care!
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
it doesn't matter how heavy the RB is.. you're not going to do it anyway.
Going to do what?

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No, the real question is can an RB fit in a radio flyer?
No Radio Flyer, No Care!


If you have to ask......
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
The 350Z tranny is actually considered a relatively weak transmission. The Z32 5-speed is much stronger. If using the VQ you really have no other option though, which kind of bites.
5-speed stronger? Based on what?

Absolutely NO reason to believe the gears of the Z32 5-speed are physically any larger than the gears in the Z33 6-speed.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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5-speed stronger? Based on what?

Absolutely NO reason to believe the gears of the Z32 5-speed are physically any larger than the gears in the Z33 6-speed.
Probably people have blown them already.
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the 350Z tranny is on something like revision #15, including multiple recalls and warranty extensions on them.... I'd be scurred to put it in a high HP car..

The Z32 tranny has been known to hold up just fine to 600hp cars and heavy track use.
Old Oct 8, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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Wouldn't the Z32 5-speed be a little stronger because of the twin turbos? I'd think the tranny would have to be strong enough to take sudden rushes of extra power, as opposed to an NA engine that haas a much smoother progression of power. I dunno, maybe I'm thinking of this the wrong way...

I agree though. The VE rules, but it is truly massive for a V6. It's not a good platform for swapping I think because it's only giving you several dozen more hp, as opposed to potentially over 100 more hp with a VQ, and THEN add in the VQ's extra weight savings, technology, and so on. If you were going to do more of a JDM-style swap, I'd say SR20. As for the VE in a RWD car from the factory, no such thing ever existed, least of all here in the US.
Old Oct 8, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
5-speed stronger? Based on what?

Absolutely NO reason to believe the gears of the Z32 5-speed are physically any larger than the gears in the Z33 6-speed.
The Z33 tranny is strong, but not all that reliable. And yes, there is a difference...
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If the Z32 tranny is superior to the Z33 trans why is it out of production then? Why didn't they adapt it to the VQ instead of going for a totally different tranny. It's not weight, there has to be a reason. If it aint broke dont fix it.
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If the Z32 tranny is superior to the Z33 trans why is it out of production then? Why aren't they still using it instead of the current one? It's not weight, there has to be a reason. If it aint broke dont fix it.
Where did i compare the two tranny's? I was speaking in general terms. Furthermore, Nissan wanted 6 gears.



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