I am currently doing the swap...the flywheels flange isn't the same. Has anyone done this swap and if so, what did you come up with to get around that?

P.S I am changing taking the auto out of the vg30e (92 max) and putting the 5 speed from the ve30de (93 max) in it. It looks like the flanges are interchangeable tho.

 

you need to get a flywheel from a VG 5spds

 

bonez, I'm about to do the same swap so any problems/pointers would be greatly appreciated and, Good luck.

 

Yea i going to sort this out by the end of the day so i'll let you know anything that you need to know once this problem (the only one in my case...so far lol) is dealt with.

 

the axles are the biggest pain of the swap IMO.

 

Are you kidding? You need to take the axles out anyway to get the new trans in, what is so hard about putting in a different set???? Did you mean FINDING new axles? That IS hard, I went through a couple of sets before I found the right one. But If you pull the axles off a VE yourself, you KNOW you got the right ones, so install should take you less than 30 minutes.

 

well. you cant put VE axles right into VG spindles.. the splines are smaller. There is 2 routes you can take..

1 You can change the spindles to VE spindles..
2 you can make yourself hybrid axles with your outer housings with all VE inners.

The second one is much easyer and cheaper.

Basically what you need to do is dissasemble the outer joints of each set of axles and put all the internals of the VE axles into the housing of the VG axles.. Sounds pretty simple.. and it is if you can figure out how the joints come apart.. ive done it its not to hard. If you can get that figured out, i would try and find an axle shop locally that can do it. you must at least use the VE half shaft, and the VE drivers side shaft + inner joint. this is a MUST because of the fact that the VE has an lsd.. for one the splines are larger and theres more of them and also the lsd makes the transmission case larger which means that the drivers side axle shaft is a bit shorter .. if you didnt use the shorter shaft you would have binding and break somthing.

All in all its not that hard.. done it 2 times with out any major problems.

 

Is the 300zx (vg30e) flywheel the same as the maxima?

 

I dont belive so

 

I said it's the hardest part, because you either a: have to have custom axles made or b: change out the hubs to the VE spec ones.

 

Lets clear somthing up, you dont have to have custom axles made. You just take the half shafts from a VE (the inside halfs, that go into the trans) and combine it with the outer half shaft of the VG, and done. This should take 30 minutes for your average joe.
Now changing out the spindles IMO is the EASIEST way to go. Since you have to remove all the bolts but one to the spindle to remove the axles, replacing them is only 1 extra bolt per side!! 10 minutes if you are weak and puny.

Now I submit that cutting the hole for the clutch pedal, mounting it, and swaping out the transmission couldnt be done in less than 30min. So, clearly the axles are the easy part of the job. But thats just in my experience.


BTW, I just swapped spindles, which are easy and cheap to find on www.car-parts.com

 

No. it has takes 8 bolts. Our vg's have 6.

 

I am weak and puny

 

Eat your Wheaties.

 

I prefer a heavier cereal, Basic4 is one of my faves

 

Well I'm happy to someone else is putting a Ve tranny in a vg! How's progress?

 

Does anyone know if the VG auto has 'officially' been converted to a VE 5spd before? I was under the impression nobody has actually done it yet. At least, I didn't think it had been done.
I have a 91 VG Auto and a 92 VE 5spd, and have also been planning "the swap".
The 1991 VG auto is the one I've owned since 1996 when I lived in Los Angeles and I've babied it - it's mint. I brought it with me from LA when I moved to Toronto in 2003.
The 92 VE5 I bought here in Toronto, and I enjoy driving it way more than my prized 91VG. The only thing is, the VE is a rusted out Canadian winter-beaten turd.
Hence the motivation for "the swap".

I already have a full donor car. My main concern has been the electrical side of the swap. How will things 'jibe' using a VE engine harness in a VG? What potential problems might I run in to, or need to prepare for ahead of time? These are the things I'm trying to sort out before tearing things apart.

 

Yea, Ive done that exact swap.

Well its not quite that easy.. you cant just put the VE shafts into the outer joints. They're to big. the splines arent the same. thats why you must use the VE inners of the joint and the VG outer housing. The haynes manuel says that the joint isnt even able to be disassembled but it is. you need to turn the joint in all directions and start to take the ***** out. once you get them all out you can remove the VG internals and install the VE ones. Its really not hard at all if you figure out how to dismantle the joints.

Me and my buddy did this to his maxima like 2 years ago..

When i installed a VE trans into my VG chassis a month ago i just had my axle guy make me some custom remans built with all oem parts.

Jeremy

 

I didn't have so much trouble with axles. I just swapped VE hubs in with ve axles and called it done. The VE axles are much thicker anyway.

 

No one has completely swapped a VE for a VG that I am aware of, it's usually not worth it.
Personally I'd swap the whole engine harness as a whole.

 

I took some pics today and i'll take a few more while i finish off the installation tomorrow.I'll post them some time this week.

 

Just use the VE axles and spindles. The setup is stronger like the goon said, takes you MUCH less time then messing with the axles. Plus, you dont get any greese on your hands!

 

Wow so many 5speed swappers in IL, Maxpwr and maxmaxima91...will you guys gimmie a hand with my future VG auto to VE 5spd swap when my current auto is dead? Beer's on me

 

sure thing

 

BTW john you'r going to get some pratice in a month or 2. My maximas rear main seal is leaking so I'll have to change it....yay...

~Alex

 

Wrong. VG30E is the exact same if its in a pathfinder, max, or 300zx. Change a few external parts and it can go in any of the 3.

the VG30DE does have a 8 bolt FW though. Its a much diffrent engine.

I was going to use a Z31 flywheel on my max but I came across a maxima fw and it looked lighter buy a couple of pounds so I grabbed it. The clutch bolts up on the NA I believe but that was like 14 months ago...

~Alex

 

So today i finished up the the swap get inside the car turn the key, she starts then IT happens again! My vg30e decides it prefers to run on 4 cylinders instead of 6! Man that BITES!!! The hurtful part is that i can't test out the gearbox til i get this straight.

Neway i'm going to deal with the miss tomorrow let you guys know how it goes.

 

Anyone willing to post the pics from the swap for me? I'm having some difficulties with them.

 

photobucket.com

Very easy to use...

 

I don't know if it's going to work but here goes nothin.

A pic of my baby...
http://downshizzle.com/gallery/album...20(Medium).jpg

the answer to my biggest problem
http://downshizzle.com/gallery/album...20(Medium).jpg

Out with the old
http://downshizzle.com/gallery/album...20(Medium).jpg

In with the new
http://downshizzle.com/gallery/album...20(Medium).jpg

Not enough pedals
http://downshizzle.com/gallery/album...20(Medium).jpg

Just rite
http://downshizzle.com/gallery/album...20(Medium).jpg

The spacers for the clutch pedal
http://downshizzle.com/gallery/album...20(Medium).jpg

i have a few more that i will upload a lil later.

 

Um yea for that fhy wheel....do you like metal flying through your transmission case and making your engine bay look like a sideways tornado hit it? That is seriously the 2ed worst idea Ive seen today, the only other one out ranking it is a ricer getting a caviler tattooed on his forearm, which = retarted.

http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.ph...5&t=268985&p=1 N-W-S!

But back to the 5 speed swap....Im sure some one has a flywheel, as that one will destroy things.

Maybe Im just in a bad mood but sorry in advance lol, please for the sake of you cars long term health dont use it...

~Alex

 

And the particles are going to come from where? We have down this before with no side effects for over 5 years.

Besides she only has to last for a month or two until i get a lightweight one.

 

Your shattered flywheel. I onno I just wouldn't feel safe with that but to each your own. But what do you mean done it before? What car?

~Alex

 

i can't remember that type of car...but my old man did it before a while back and he said it worked fine for years. I was a bit skeptical as well but it was either that or wait til i can get a light weight one from the states. I live in the bahamas and there aren't alot of those flywheels around the place.