Hey, I did some searching and found a few things, but I'd like to just ask some of you VE-Auto owners some questions about your Cars. I got my VE and it was running like crap, but with the MAF/CAI swap it seemed to fix it. Well my question is, what kind of times (0-60 or quarter mile) should I be looking at with a VE Automatic. (Only mod is CAI) Just a rough estimate would work; I just want to make sure my car is running as it should be (stock) before I go putting money into mods as I'm looking at Y-Pipes and UDP's.

Thanks in Advance.

 

I think 0-60 for me with a stock auto is 8 seconds or so. Based on the seconds on my CD player.

 

So my VE With CAI definitely shouldn't be running late 8's early 9's ?

 

You should be running 5's AT LEAST with a CAI

It's probably cuz you don't have a racing stripe

 

google knows.

 

Well ****, I have a pinstripe... doesn't that count for anything in this world?

 

I googled and found some other places and saw 8.8 seconds. But that's for stock, unmodified, and when it was new. Not a 13 year old car; that's why I was hoping to get some answers some from people with current VE's slightly modified.

 

Ask Aaron, he will know...I think 1/4 mile (at a track) is easier to work with than 0-60 because the latter is going to be hard to time correctly.

Actually, your mpg (especially highway -- less variables) is probably going to be a better indicator than your 0-60 time. If you can drive normally and consistently pull down 25+ mpg hwy, your car is probably running pretty well. If not, look for things like leaking manifold studs, bad o2 sensor, bad knock sensor, old plugs, cracks in your coil packs, etc.

Even if you have some problems, an aftermarket y-pipe will help with exhaust restrictions the stock y has and will help you out in both performance and mpg.

 

yeeah... Aaron knows all about VE A/T, considering he set the world record for a VE A/T all-motor quarter-mile. 13.something, and considering my car is VG A/T and is supposed to run 17sec for a quarter mile... 13.anything is darn quick. So with your extra power I'd say maybe you should be ~1 sec faster than a VG like mine in a quarter mile.

 

I just took my VG Auto to the drags and it managed a 17.6 on the 1/4 mile, completely stock. Not bad for a 17 year old car and a novice driver.

I would have to agree, with the VE being a more powerful engine, you should get a slightly quicker 1/4 mile than 17 seconds.

 

Remember too, though, that new cars aren't broken in yet and run faster after they age a bit. If you test a car a year or two old, it will be considerably faster than it was brand new. 13 years, though, is probably TOO broken in to notice this change.

 

may car was still getting faster and faster until the day I blew it up.. at 230k miles.

 

similarly, if you are constantly running quarter-miles on a brand-new car, it probably won't last but 1 or 2 years anyhow because that's torture

 

Thats true if you change the oil every 3K miles*. Not if you change it often enough, and use GOOD oil then the engine wont wear out much at all. But a good oil and changing it often is the key to engine life.

*3K change interval is good for street cars not being beaten to the edge of their life, race cars or cars that are raced need their oil changed much more often..

~Alex

 

Yeah, that's wierd. My car seems to get faster with age too.

To answer your question, the VE Auto should run around 16.4-16.6 stock in the 1/4 mile. With your CAI, you should shave 1, MAYBE two tenths.

It all depends on the conditions you are running in. If you give me the exact track you plan to race at, the temp, barometric pressure, humidity, wind speed and direction, track prep, how much you plan to eat that day, and if you plan on vacuuming out your car prior to race day, then I can accurately estimate the 1/4 mile time you will run.

But like others have said, make sure your VE is running properly. If it is and you get a chance to run at a sea level track in 70 degree weather, then you should run mid 16s with your CAI easily.

With a little help from me, you'll be running low 14s in no time without any weight reduction!

You need a WSP Ypipe and also Phenolic Intake Spacers to eliminate that dreaded VE heat soak!

 

What about a VE-5 IM? (I have one laying around I could sell )

~Alex

 

This sticky will probably help,

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=59388

 

For a minute I thought you were serious...

btw you forgot to compensate fuel load weight

but yeah i was wondering about the Dropping Resistor too.

 

I'm already running 14s bone stock.
though I may do some weight reduction, gotta get down from 3800lbs

 

But you don't drive a VE Automatic.

Cape, I can't recommend unplugging the drop resistor to anybody with a 3rd gen. It hasn't been tested. I only mentioned this b/c it's a quick way to put the car down the 1/4 mile atleast for one run before the old motor and/or tranny blows with the 150 shot.

Also, I am serious about all the stuff I listed. The more info you give me, the more accurate I can make my estimate.

 

Who is faster: a VG-5 with all the go-fast bolt-ons (my car or similar) or a stock VE Auto?

I may have to find out for myself at Maxus...

 

It really depends on what you need by all the go-fast bolt-ons. I assume they mean that it will be strictly a street tire race.

If the VG 5spd has intake, exhaust, UDP, ECU upgrade, flywheel, and good clutch. And the VE Auto has intake, exhaust, UDP, ECU upgrade, high stall torque converter and 23" street tires.

Then I'd have to say the VE Auto will win just b/c it's easier to drive. All the VE auto has to do is stomp on the gas as hard as he can and it will chirp the tires a tiny bit and you should have a 2.1-2.2 60' on street tires. VLSD and crappy low end make for an easy car to drive.

With the VG 5spd, getting a 2.1 is definitely possible. It's just really hard on street tires! REALLY hard! No VLSD and lots of low end power!

Regardless, this will be a close race I think. If the 60's are the same, I'd say it will be close since I expect the VE auto to put a car length on the VG 5spd before the half track mark. Then after that, I would expect the VG 5spd to pull back on the VE Auto slightly before the end of the 1/4 mile just due to the gearing advantage.

 

I wasn't planning on touching the drop resistor, or looking for it, for that matter.. I was just asking what it is and what it does. (oh no wonder it was out of context here. I posted the drop resistor thing in the wrong thread... meant to post in "VE Savior" but whatev)

And on that VG 5spd, how much will the times drop if you take out the old VG-style 5spd and swap in a VE's VLSD 5spd, still running VG power?

 

I have no idea. Nobody has ever tested it.

 

Well the only diffrence is the final drive is a little shorter correct? Then it would gain a few tenths in the 1/4. And the VLSD would help 0-60 a little.

~Alex

 

I would only think it would help as much as traction allows. I am guessing 1-3 tenths in the 1/4 mile depending how much gain in traction you get.

 

I found a few cheap calculators and compared a VE running a 16.4 quarter miles 1/8 time and found I should be right around 8.8 seconds. Guess I'm good to go. Thanks Aaron for all the help. I guess I'm just not used to the lack of low end...... my VG really feels like it throws you back, and the tires are squealing for a second, guess it's just those things that make you feel like you're going faster when you're really not. I noticed my VE really doesn't kick in until 3500rpms anyway... VTC's I guess. But yeah, now that it's running correctly you can bet I'll be buying some of your Intake Spacers here in the near future. Along with a Warpspeed...

Hah, sorry if this was a stupid post, just getting used to a different engine I guess...

 

Yeap, you got it! The VG 5spd "FEELS" much faster than a VE Auto. But they run the same track times. If you mash the gas on a VE Auto, sometimes the tires won't even chirp! Mash the gas on a VG Auto or 5spd and you get wheelspin.

But race a VE Auto from a 60mph roll and you'll see that the VG 5spd gets walked on.

I've had people ride in my car and say, "I was expecting it to feel faster. My 5.0 Mustang feels much much faster!". Then when you line them up at the track, my car runs 13s while the 5.0 Stang may only run high 14s!

It's the lack of low end torque that fools people into thinking I'm slow.