Hey

Anyone have supercharger kits available?

If not, whats the best way of going and supercharging one?

 

no kits available for the 3rd gen. any boosted applications be it via a supercharger or turbo will need to be custom.

 

Unfortunately, there aren't any forced induction kits made for our cars. A turbo application can be done, but it requires some modification to get the turbo to fit, and if you have an auto, it would go boom.

 

Not necessarily, bro. Just a matter of PROPER application. I could go into detail over this, but it's late and my wife wants me to "keep her warm".

 

If you want, I'll keep her warm, and you can go into detail about turboing an auto

 

Well, in STOCK form, the auto tranny's still take a ****. I could imagine with a properly built, re-enforced auto tranny, it will hold some amount of boost. I'm actually kind of envious that 4th gens can take boost with their auto's.

 

The Nissan 3.3 liter came with a supercharger, the VG33ES. It was available in the Pathfinder, Xterra, and Frontier. To supercharge the VG30E you have to change the heads to the VG33 heads (involves a little head work to make the coolant holes line up..1/8") and modify your hood. The blower won't fit under a factory 3rd gen hood. then there is the usual ECU mods. It is probably easier to get a VG33ES engine from a Nissan truck and do the swap. But with only 210hp is it worth it?

 

eh, 210 over 160, but then think that you can get 230-250 with other bolt ons... or at least you should be able to

 

3.4 liter hybrid VG ftw

 

hate to bust you guys bubble! but on the z31's most of those guys are running just the 3.3 plentium and look they cant even get hood closed. So makes you guys think that that supercharger will work and close the hood fully

 

you better off going with a z31 engine or a gloria vg30et. and if not that then go with a regular front drive supercharger like ie @ vortec or paxton

your choice

im just voicing my opinion no offense to anyone

 

Why a Z31 engine? Theres no difference worth a swap. And the VG30ET has crap for compression and is expensive.

Just get turbo z31 manifolds, a T3 and tune your stock ecu with 370cc injectors. Or hire a welder (or maxmaxima91) and make some custom stuff.

A VG33ER wont fit because it wont clear the hood, and that super charger is undersized any way.

~Alex

 

oil fiter clearance was an issue i just swapped out to avoid all that

but its still not an easy task i found out the hard way

and yes hiring a welder or a fabricator will indeed speed things up

better have a phat wallet

 

the oil filter is in the same spot on our cars as a z31.. so long as you unbolt the maxima oil filter relocation unit... and buy a z31 oil filter stud.... piece of cake..

 

Actually, I've been wondering. Where the HELL do you buy a Gloria motor at? I'd rather have that for a project than just a Z31 motor.

 

I had an 87 turbo with a pathy manifold and the solution is to cut a hole in the hood and add a small scoop

 

any pics??

 

ok then heres another question. If supercharging requires heads and what not, or a different engine. Whats a good turbocharger to go with?

 

look in the boost section.....

 

You don't need to mod your engine if your staying below 300-400WHP.

SPEND THE MONEY ON TUNING! And search. Alot, and read the stickies.

~Alex

 

The only major difference between the two are the euro cams, which add a whopping 10 hp. Other than that, exact same engine. What you should really do is use a Maxima engine, or any other normally aspirated VG30E above 1987. The 9:1 compression will get you better low end, more power throughout, quicker spooling, and potentially better fuel economy than the lower compression setups. It would be the perfect setup for the street and is still able to make tons of power.

A good turbo to go with, in my opinion, would be the T3/T04E 50 trim w/ .63 a/r turbine. The compressor map matches very well with the VG up to about 23 psi or so, which is nearly 450 hp or more. If you're wanting to get a real nice turbo, the GT3076R would be a good match as well... but you're looking at about $1,200+ for the turbo alone. For the standard T3/T04E, you can pick that up for $619 here http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo.net/gat350trw63a.html and might even be able to find one cheaper on ebay. If you go with that cheap turbo site though you know you'll be getting a fresh, true Garrett turbo.

If you want to go absolutely crazy, the Holset HX35 is a good fit. That turbo will support nearly 600 hp... you'll definitely have to put a good deal of money into the tranny to get it to support that though. I think having an auto though, you'll have much better luck getting it built to handle the power than the manual trannies but you most definitely have to get it built to handle it.

VG33ER and it came in the Frontier and Xterra, Pathfinder never got it. To supercharge the VG30E with the VG33ER s/c, you just need the manifold and s/c, not the heads. The only other problem from there is the belt, I can't remember how the guy did it but I don't believe the pulley will line up with the crank pulley on the VG30E. I'll search around and see if I can find the solution to that as I know a guy who has done it.

 

Jeremy did you get my e-mail from like last month or so? im still waiting for your reply on that.

 

no.. i dont remember getting an email... aol sucks. Maybe PM's would be better. Sorry bout that.

Jeremy

 

o i agree too the vg30et does have lousey compression that's why turboing a vg30e maxima motor will give you more power with just the stock parts from a z31's vg30et but you will limit youself in the long run when trying to acheive high boost levels. If you sat down and did your homework the vg30et motor can acheive 500hp real easy if built properly so in reality the lower compression vg30et is not a bad engine the flaw in that engine concept was the turbo's used on them. nissan built the vg30et for quick acceleration out the whole but if you study the torque curves on the vg30 series engine design it fads out at about (quote me if im wrong) 5000 rpm i think i forgot. but the biggest flaw is that nissan did'nt make the max rear wheel drive like it intended in the 2nd gen max. if so a rb26 engine would the greatest engine swap for it.

there is a engine place in california called K.Watanabe goole that to get the information it's in lynwood, ca

also there is Gspeed in gardena, ca too there pretty good also.

 

You don't need to worry about all that.The stock VG30E compression is 9:1, perfect for boost. Up to about 400WHP you don't have to touch a thing. After that I'd still be worried about the transmission crapping out. Like I said before you don't need to worry about swapping engines until your making some serious power.

~Alex

 

when i build an engine for my car... it going to still be 9:1 compression.. 9:1 is already pretty low. 8.3:1 is just to low.

but before i build an engine.. ima try really hard to hit 500 whp on the completely stock engine.

 

VH > VG > RB

 

VH(if it fits)>VQ>VG>RB

~Alex

 

Derr... I forgot about the VQ. You have it right.

The Maxima's engine bay is bigger than the Q45's so it would fit if it were rear wheel drive... though, if it were rwd the engine bay would likely be much smaller, though not small enough for the VH not to fit. Ehh, I'll stop there.