Finally got em and installed em! pics inside
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Finally got em and installed em! pics inside
Hey guys just thought I show you what took up 3 miserable hours of my life because I didnt have a short 1/2 drive extension for my impact gun at 3am...
So my motor had been wobbling all over the place for months, discovered when replaced all exhaust studs, yes even though the front mount was replaced 2 months prior to that when the tranny was replaced. Anyway, got fed-up and got some spare motor mounts from the JY and thanks to
Maxpwer91, I got polyurethane SOLID mounts. Yes I feel a HUGE difference with them now, incredible responce difference compared to the old mounts and my engine doesnt sit crooked anymore. Only thing buggin me is that I can feel a lot more vibration but I guess I'll get used to it. Here's some pics of the new and old mounts.
Sorry about the quality, these were taken with my phone.
No wonder they charged me 50 bucks for it in Nov 2006, its crap!
See the difference?
HUH, DO YA?
I can see myself on it!
So my motor had been wobbling all over the place for months, discovered when replaced all exhaust studs, yes even though the front mount was replaced 2 months prior to that when the tranny was replaced. Anyway, got fed-up and got some spare motor mounts from the JY and thanks to
Maxpwer91, I got polyurethane SOLID mounts. Yes I feel a HUGE difference with them now, incredible responce difference compared to the old mounts and my engine doesnt sit crooked anymore. Only thing buggin me is that I can feel a lot more vibration but I guess I'll get used to it. Here's some pics of the new and old mounts.
Sorry about the quality, these were taken with my phone.
No wonder they charged me 50 bucks for it in Nov 2006, its crap!
See the difference?
HUH, DO YA?
I can see myself on it!
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:-p you said thanks to maxpwer91, how was I to know you didn't mean he told you where to get it done, or maybe taught a class to a group of migrant workers who just happened to be at a flea market you were at and you got them there... never know, all the possibilities
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Originally Posted by Soaknfused
:-p you said thanks to maxpwer91, how was I to know you didn't mean he told you where to get it done, or maybe taught a class to a group of migrant workers who just happened to be at a flea market you were at and you got them there... never know, all the possibilities
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Originally Posted by xx-Marshall-xx
ah yeah, you will feel a lot more engine vibration with poly-urethane mounts
im looking into buying some after my clutch replacement. Cept ill be doing ALLLLLL of them
im looking into buying some after my clutch replacement. Cept ill be doing ALLLLLL of them
Good choice as you've got a ve and a 5, I on the other hand dont really need poly tranny mounts cuz:
1. they're in good shape
2. I have an AUTO!
#11
Originally Posted by ColombianMax
Good choice as you've got a ve and a 5, I on the other hand dont really need poly tranny mounts cuz:
1. they're in good shape
2. I have an AUTO!
1. they're in good shape
2. I have an AUTO!
Regardless of what transmission your vehicle has you should replace all mounts at the same time, otherwise the one(s) not replaced will go out a little later because they have become the weak point in the system.
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then why was the "new" motor mount installed during my tranny replacement the only one that was ALL chewed up and the other 3 were intact, and you can tell that the rear motor mount was good by that pic! Shouldnt it have been the rear (old one) that got torn up and the new one remain ok?
beside, the tranny ones should last until I toss in the 5speed
beside, the tranny ones should last until I toss in the 5speed
#13
Originally Posted by ColombianMax
then why was the "new" motor mount installed during my tranny replacement the only one that was ALL chewed up and the other 3 were intact, and you can tell that the rear motor mount was good by that pic! Shouldnt it have been the rear (old one) that got torn up and the new one remain ok?
beside, the tranny ones should last until I toss in the 5speed
beside, the tranny ones should last until I toss in the 5speed
#14
the front mount, regardless of whether it is an engine or trans mount, will suffer the majority of the abuse on a FWD car due to rotational forces. All the mounts see the same amount of torque applied to them since the engine trans is basically one solid piece.
#15
Originally Posted by internetautomar
the front mount, regardless of whether it is an engine or trans mount, will suffer the majority of the abuse on a FWD car due to rotational forces. All the mounts see the same amount of torque applied to them since the engine trans is basically one solid piece.
But wtf do I know.
#18
Originally Posted by ColombianMax
Hmm, looks like we need someone else to give their part on this. Why are they smaller than the motor mounts, Brian?
the size of the mount has nothing to do with how it functions.
#20
filling the mounts with poly would give you less chassis vibration reduction wouldn't it? i mean, the benefits of a stronger mount are obvious, and the long term benefits as well......so how much does the vibration increase anyway?
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I dont know if my engine is rough but it vabrates so much that my voice sounds real shaky when I talk and when I'm at a redlight aka 750 rpms or soo, on idle while on Park or Neutral its fine...
#23
Originally Posted by ColombianMax
Brian you ready for this? I think I need tranny mounts...when I put shifter on R and accelerate, I feel movement/clunk. wonder what it is
#25
Originally Posted by ColombianMax
its normal for some movement but if the whole engine just shifts a crapload then your motor mounts are probably like the one on the very first picture in this thread.
well there it is. The car only lurched once (handbrake on, in D, faced uphill) and it's fairly obvious. Is my engine moving too much?
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
http://s164.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=MVI_0101.flv
well there it is. The car only lurched once (handbrake on, in D, faced uphill) and it's fairly obvious. Is my engine moving too much?
well there it is. The car only lurched once (handbrake on, in D, faced uphill) and it's fairly obvious. Is my engine moving too much?
HOLY CRAP DUDE!!!! Your engine moves a LOT more than mine did! I'm guessing your mount(s) must be even worse than the one on pic #1. btw it its lifting like that up front its gonna be the front motor mount which by coinscidence (sp?) turns out to be the small one on pic #1
#28
Originally Posted by ColombianMax
HOLY CRAP DUDE!!!! Your engine moves a LOT more than mine did! I'm guessing your mount(s) must be even worse than the one on pic #1. btw it its lifting like that up front its gonna be the front motor mount which by coinscidence (sp?) turns out to be the small one on pic #1
so that means my to do list:
1) exhaust stud
2) ypipe section
3) front suspension bushings
4) fixing idle. whatever the cause may be
5) motor mounts
6) new boot around tie rod
7) new PS pump
8*) rear crank seal
*unconfirmed as being bad. oil on KS and tranny bellhousing. front seals changed w/ timing belt.. but rear was left alone. maybe i'll replace all 4 mounts and take the tranny out and do it before re-mounting it.
then it might actually start being more like it ought to be. and then, it'll be fixed enough to mod.
#30
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
don't bother fixing the exhaust studs or Y pipe until you fix the engine mounts. the movement of the engine is one of the causes of exhaust problems.
sadly i really can't afford all 4 mounts. I am a part time worker at under $8/hr, so i can only afford the one that is broken.
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
that was actually my guess. I noticed now much that exhaust stuff moves and kinda figured that was why. when the engine is idling the catalytic converter vibrates violently.
sadly i really can't afford all 4 mounts. I am a part time worker at under $8/hr, so i can only afford the one that is broken.
sadly i really can't afford all 4 mounts. I am a part time worker at under $8/hr, so i can only afford the one that is broken.
I'm pretty sure you can get em real cheap from Maxpowr91, why dont you try PMing him and find out how much he can do em for
#32
Originally Posted by ColombianMax
I'm pretty sure you can get em real cheap from Maxpowr91, why dont you try PMing him and find out how much he can do em for
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Well, I'd say of equal or lesser price than aftermarket stock replacement mounts but at greater quality.
Just a guesstimate here. I didnt pay for them at all cuz I got him most of the parts he needed for this top secret project no one must know about, sooo its kind of a trade but he can give you a price.
Only thing is, you might need to remove your mounts, ship em to him, wait a a week or 2 after him receiving em, get em back filled and toss em on. OR you can do what I did, I got JY mounts dirt cheap, did some of the work myself by drilling out the rubber and then just wait for him to fill em. I had no down time on my car thanks to the spare mounts I got at the JY.
PM him if you really want to know how cheap
Just a guesstimate here. I didnt pay for them at all cuz I got him most of the parts he needed for this top secret project no one must know about, sooo its kind of a trade but he can give you a price.
Only thing is, you might need to remove your mounts, ship em to him, wait a a week or 2 after him receiving em, get em back filled and toss em on. OR you can do what I did, I got JY mounts dirt cheap, did some of the work myself by drilling out the rubber and then just wait for him to fill em. I had no down time on my car thanks to the spare mounts I got at the JY.
PM him if you really want to know how cheap
#34
Originally Posted by ColombianMax
Well, I'd say of equal or lesser price than aftermarket stock replacement mounts but at greater quality.
Just a guesstimate here. I didnt pay for them at all cuz I got him most of the parts he needed for this top secret project no one must know about, sooo its kind of a trade but he can give you a price.
Only thing is, you might need to remove your mounts, ship em to him, wait a a week or 2 after him receiving em, get em back filled and toss em on. OR you can do what I did, I got JY mounts dirt cheap, did some of the work myself by drilling out the rubber and then just wait for him to fill em. I had no down time on my car thanks to the spare mounts I got at the JY.
PM him if you really want to know how cheap
Just a guesstimate here. I didnt pay for them at all cuz I got him most of the parts he needed for this top secret project no one must know about, sooo its kind of a trade but he can give you a price.
Only thing is, you might need to remove your mounts, ship em to him, wait a a week or 2 after him receiving em, get em back filled and toss em on. OR you can do what I did, I got JY mounts dirt cheap, did some of the work myself by drilling out the rubber and then just wait for him to fill em. I had no down time on my car thanks to the spare mounts I got at the JY.
PM him if you really want to know how cheap
#36
Originally Posted by ustfdes
is it necessary to remove the existing rubber before you fill the mounts, or can it stay in place?
#37
Originally Posted by capedcadaver
i'm thinking that i will be brave and fill mine myself. Just a matter of letting it dry/cure but it can be done. I could potentially do them on a friday afternoon at 4pm, leave them off until 6-7pm saturday afternoon to dry, if i wanted to.
You need to bake them.
#39
ok here's my front engine mount
http://s164.photobucket.com/albums/u...otor%20mounts/
it was actually far easier than i imagined to get it out. The hardest parts were maneuvering my wrench around my woodblock that i used to support the engine with, and jacking my car up (my jack has a fairly short upward travel, making it really hard to get my jackstands under the car)
http://s164.photobucket.com/albums/u...otor%20mounts/
it was actually far easier than i imagined to get it out. The hardest parts were maneuvering my wrench around my woodblock that i used to support the engine with, and jacking my car up (my jack has a fairly short upward travel, making it really hard to get my jackstands under the car)