Question - are all 3rd gen 5 spd interchangable?
08-07-2001, 04:09 AM
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I would like to know if the transmission among the 3rd gen are interchangable. I just got some noises from my maxima that is strange to me.
I got a 94 SE model with VE engine maxima. I dont think they made a 5 spd for the other engine unless it was pre-92. Please educate me on this matter.
Two weeks ago, it was fine. I parked it for a while as I was waiting for some parts to come in. This morning, it was making this rotating type noises.
I will change out the fluid to see if that is the problem but it would not hurt to know about other 5 spd transmission for the 3rd gen.
I got a 94 SE model with VE engine maxima. I dont think they made a 5 spd for the other engine unless it was pre-92. Please educate me on this matter.
Two weeks ago, it was fine. I parked it for a while as I was waiting for some parts to come in. This morning, it was making this rotating type noises.
I will change out the fluid to see if that is the problem but it would not hurt to know about other 5 spd transmission for the 3rd gen.
08-07-2001, 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by psyclotran
I would like to know if the transmission among the 3rd gen are interchangable. I just got some noises from my maxima that is strange to me.
I got a 94 SE model with VE engine maxima. I dont think they made a 5 spd for the other engine unless it was pre-92. Please educate me on this matter.
Two weeks ago, it was fine. I parked it for a while as I was waiting for some parts to come in. This morning, it was making this rotating type noises.
I will change out the fluid to see if that is the problem but it would not hurt to know about other 5 spd transmission for the 3rd gen.
I would like to know if the transmission among the 3rd gen are interchangable. I just got some noises from my maxima that is strange to me.
I got a 94 SE model with VE engine maxima. I dont think they made a 5 spd for the other engine unless it was pre-92. Please educate me on this matter.
Two weeks ago, it was fine. I parked it for a while as I was waiting for some parts to come in. This morning, it was making this rotating type noises.
I will change out the fluid to see if that is the problem but it would not hurt to know about other 5 spd transmission for the 3rd gen.
all GXE are automatic
SE came standard with 5spd, but had auto option
tranny for 89-91SE 5psd is different than 92-94SE 5spd because it's a different engine (VG/VE); also your tranny has VSLD
08-07-2001, 11:08 PM
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if you can find a reputable transmission shop you can get it overhauled way cheaper than buying a new/ used one
im paying 225 to have my vg manual trans overhauled but im taking it to him. I do most everything but Gear stuff I leave that for the specialist. you know
but yes you have limited slip and a different engine and from what you describe you have either 1.input shaft bearing is noisey 2. main/ countershaft bearings are shot, 3. all of em have gone bad not likely but if yhour transmission shifts fine you dont have to worry about syncronizor rings or anything just replace all the bearings in the transmission and you will be fine. its common at about 120k or so and will happen alot sooner if you dont change yuor gear oil every 20k miles or so I did mine every 15k in my 5spd max.
Goodluck
im paying 225 to have my vg manual trans overhauled but im taking it to him. I do most everything but Gear stuff I leave that for the specialist. you know
but yes you have limited slip and a different engine and from what you describe you have either 1.input shaft bearing is noisey 2. main/ countershaft bearings are shot, 3. all of em have gone bad not likely but if yhour transmission shifts fine you dont have to worry about syncronizor rings or anything just replace all the bearings in the transmission and you will be fine. its common at about 120k or so and will happen alot sooner if you dont change yuor gear oil every 20k miles or so I did mine every 15k in my 5spd max.
Goodluck
08-08-2001, 04:45 PM
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for 3rd gens (89-94)
all GXE are automatic
SE came standard with 5spd, but had auto option
all GXE are automatic
SE came standard with 5spd, but had auto option
08-08-2001, 04:53 PM
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Hearing "rotating noises" does not = need another tranny. I could be something as simple as a worn throw out bearing or something not even tranny related.
Originally posted by psyclotran
I would like to know if the transmission among the 3rd gen are interchangable. I just got some noises from my maxima that is strange to me.
I got a 94 SE model with VE engine maxima. I dont think they made a 5 spd for the other engine unless it was pre-92. Please educate me on this matter.
Two weeks ago, it was fine. I parked it for a while as I was waiting for some parts to come in. This morning, it was making this rotating type noises.
I will change out the fluid to see if that is the problem but it would not hurt to know about other 5 spd transmission for the 3rd gen.
I would like to know if the transmission among the 3rd gen are interchangable. I just got some noises from my maxima that is strange to me.
I got a 94 SE model with VE engine maxima. I dont think they made a 5 spd for the other engine unless it was pre-92. Please educate me on this matter.
Two weeks ago, it was fine. I parked it for a while as I was waiting for some parts to come in. This morning, it was making this rotating type noises.
I will change out the fluid to see if that is the problem but it would not hurt to know about other 5 spd transmission for the 3rd gen.
08-08-2001, 05:41 PM
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troubleshooting methods?
Thanks for the thoughts.
I just cannot figure it out. One week everything was fine, the next week, the bearings failed?
Is there a method of trouble shooting this problem?
I can take out the transmission but is there something I should do before taking it out of the car?
What is the methodology behind transmission diagnostic?
I just cannot figure it out. One week everything was fine, the next week, the bearings failed?
Is there a method of trouble shooting this problem?
I can take out the transmission but is there something I should do before taking it out of the car?
What is the methodology behind transmission diagnostic?
Originally posted by Jeff92se
Hearing "rotating noises" does not = need another tranny. I could be something as simple as a worn throw out bearing or something not even tranny related.
Hearing "rotating noises" does not = need another tranny. I could be something as simple as a worn throw out bearing or something not even tranny related.
08-13-2001, 04:35 PM
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changed the fluid, did not help.. Here is the summary
When the clutch is engaged, there is a mechanical rotating noise. The noise decreases with increasing gears (ie. louder in 1st then in 5th). When the clutch is fully depressed, the rotating noise goes away. I have no problem shifting 1st to 5th. The noise is less in 4th and 5 th gear. I am certain it is a mechanical noise but what bothers me is how can it happen instantly?
When the clutch is engaged, there is a mechanical rotating noise. The noise decreases with increasing gears (ie. louder in 1st then in 5th). When the clutch is fully depressed, the rotating noise goes away. I have no problem shifting 1st to 5th. The noise is less in 4th and 5 th gear. I am certain it is a mechanical noise but what bothers me is how can it happen instantly?
Originally posted by MaximaSE91
but yes you have limited slip and a different engine and from what you describe you have either 1.input shaft bearing is noisey 2. main/ countershaft bearings are shot, 3. all of em have gone bad not likely but if yhour transmission shifts fine you dont have to worry about syncronizor rings or anything just replace all the bearings in the transmission and you will be fine. its common at about 120k or so and will happen alot sooner if you dont change yuor gear oil every 20k miles or so I did mine every 15k in my 5spd max.
Goodluck
but yes you have limited slip and a different engine and from what you describe you have either 1.input shaft bearing is noisey 2. main/ countershaft bearings are shot, 3. all of em have gone bad not likely but if yhour transmission shifts fine you dont have to worry about syncronizor rings or anything just replace all the bearings in the transmission and you will be fine. its common at about 120k or so and will happen alot sooner if you dont change yuor gear oil every 20k miles or so I did mine every 15k in my 5spd max.
Goodluck
08-13-2001, 04:44 PM
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Sounds like a bad throw out bearing to me. It's not on the tranny but on the clutch lever(wrong terminology). When you press the clutch pedal, hydraulic pressure is sent to the clutch level and pushes on the clutch pressure plate to disengage the clutch. This allows you to shift. This would explain why you only hear the noise when it's pressed. I'm not 100% but this is my guess.
To replace it, the tranny has to come out but the part iteself is cheap.
To replace it, the tranny has to come out but the part iteself is cheap.
Originally posted by psyclotran
changed the fluid, did not help.. Here is the summary
When the clutch is engaged, there is a mechanical rotating noise. The noise decreases with increasing gears (ie. louder in 1st then in 5th). When the clutch is fully depressed, the rotating noise goes away. I have no problem shifting 1st to 5th. The noise is less in 4th and 5 th gear. I am certain it is a mechanical noise but what bothers me is how can it happen instantly?
changed the fluid, did not help.. Here is the summary
When the clutch is engaged, there is a mechanical rotating noise. The noise decreases with increasing gears (ie. louder in 1st then in 5th). When the clutch is fully depressed, the rotating noise goes away. I have no problem shifting 1st to 5th. The noise is less in 4th and 5 th gear. I am certain it is a mechanical noise but what bothers me is how can it happen instantly?
08-14-2001, 12:00 AM
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Jeff I must disagree he says the pedal is depressed meaning its pushed in clutch is disengauged and trans input shaft stops motion hence no more noise being heard. so I'm sticking with my initial answer of the common input shaft bearing that i've seen many fail inlcuding my own on my 90 se that i rolled.
08-14-2001, 08:18 PM
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more explainations
That is correct, then the clutch is completely disengaged, the noise goes away.
It will cost $450 plus parts to rebuild the transmission. Should I replace all the bearings to fix this problem once and for all? Is $450 reasonable?
What kind of tools are required if I want to do this by myself?
It will cost $450 plus parts to rebuild the transmission. Should I replace all the bearings to fix this problem once and for all? Is $450 reasonable?
What kind of tools are required if I want to do this by myself?
Originally posted by MaximaSE91
Jeff I must disagree he says the pedal is depressed meaning its pushed in clutch is disengauged and trans input shaft stops motion hence no more noise being heard. so I'm sticking with my initial answer of the common input shaft bearing that i've seen many fail inlcuding my own on my 90 se that i rolled.
Jeff I must disagree he says the pedal is depressed meaning its pushed in clutch is disengauged and trans input shaft stops motion hence no more noise being heard. so I'm sticking with my initial answer of the common input shaft bearing that i've seen many fail inlcuding my own on my 90 se that i rolled.
08-15-2001, 06:09 PM
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Should I buy all the bearings to give to them to replace or do I just let them buy the bearings? My main concern is actually time and then money is next.
Do you know if they give you a price break on parts cost?
Do you know if they give you a price break on parts cost?
Originally posted by MaximaSE91
yea that seems like a good price and I dont even get involved with transmissions, let the shop do it and yes replace all the bearings its your best bet being that they all will eventually fail so do all the bearings.
anyways good luck
yea that seems like a good price and I dont even get involved with transmissions, let the shop do it and yes replace all the bearings its your best bet being that they all will eventually fail so do all the bearings.
anyways good luck
08-31-2001, 03:56 AM
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Lessons learnd
Guys, just to let you both know you are both right.
The throw-out bearing was bad along with the main input shaft bearing.
The shop charged me $1158 for a rebuilt trans.. After a little research, I learned this was too much.
I should have done it my self. Here is what I would do next time.
Call Mantrans - www.mantrans.com or
phoenix hard parts - www.phoenixhardparts.com
Call Coz to get the OEM clutch set for the 300Z NA and put it in. $160 instead of $295 like what the shop charged me for my maxima.
These places on the web are charging a very cheap price for a rebuilt trans and have GREAT warranty! With shipping and all, it comes out to slightly less than $1k! with at least a 6 mos/6000 miles warranty.
My stupidity is your gain.
The throw-out bearing was bad along with the main input shaft bearing.
The shop charged me $1158 for a rebuilt trans.. After a little research, I learned this was too much.
I should have done it my self. Here is what I would do next time.
Call Mantrans - www.mantrans.com or
phoenix hard parts - www.phoenixhardparts.com
Call Coz to get the OEM clutch set for the 300Z NA and put it in. $160 instead of $295 like what the shop charged me for my maxima.
These places on the web are charging a very cheap price for a rebuilt trans and have GREAT warranty! With shipping and all, it comes out to slightly less than $1k! with at least a 6 mos/6000 miles warranty.
My stupidity is your gain.
Originally posted by psyclotran
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