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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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If I hit the brakes while there is snow on the ground. The car goes sideways just like if I pulled up on the e-brake. The car is a 92 gxe non abs car. So in short my question is is that normal for a non abs maxima to do that, is that something non abs cars do.
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxteca
If I hit the brakes while there is snow on the ground. The car goes sideways just like if I pulled up on the e-brake. The car is a 92 gxe non abs car. So in short my question is is that normal for a non abs maxima to do that, is that something non abs cars do.
Have you inspected your brakes visually with the wheel off? You can always start by disassembling them and looking to make sure you have even wear on your pads, make sure rotors are not seized, check for caliper piston movement when brake pressure is applied on both wheels, etc.
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 94maxshima
Have you inspected your brakes visually with the wheel off? You can always start by disassembling them and looking to make sure you have even wear on your pads, make sure rotors are not seized, check for caliper piston movement when brake pressure is applied on both wheels, etc.
I put on new rear brake shoes, wheel cylinders and front brake pads, rotors and calipers about two weeks ago and it all looked good at that time. Oh the e-brake dose not work that good even after all the new parts. But I also have not taken the time to adj it.

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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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don't hit your brakes on snow.
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gapboi210
don't hit your brakes on snow.
How do I stop the car then?
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Let it coast for a while coming up to where you need to be slower or stop, instead of speeding all the way up to the light or turn, then brake lightly and steadily as you get closer. Keep larger than normal distance between you and the car ahead.

I may live in Texas, but I learned to drive on the highways of the D.C./VA/MD area so I've had my experience with snow.
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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put the better tires on the rear.
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
put the better tires on the rear.
It has all new blizzaks all the way around. So it should not be the tires.
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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It has all new blizzaks all the way around. So it should not be the tires.
true, how are your struts?
you may just have to learn how to drive in the snow
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
true, how are your struts?
you may just have to learn how to drive in the snow
Shot as well as the lca and tie rod ends and ball joints. But I have new ones, and the car goes in next week to have all the parts put in. And I have been driving in the snow for the past 10 years. Never had a non abs car do that before, I was thinking it my be the master cylinder sending to much pressure to the rear idk.

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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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if your struts are bad enough they will alow the car to shift the weight to the front which will take your weight off the back allowing it to slip because of no weight
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
if your struts are bad enough they will alow the car to shift the weight to the front which will take your weight off the back allowing it to slip because of no weight
Cool, so you don't think it could be the master cylinder sending the wrong pressure to the rear brakes? To tell you the truth I need to get off my *** and just do the rear disc conversion.
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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I doubt it's the master cylinder causing your issue
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
I doubt it's the master cylinder causing your issue
Thank you for your help and in site. I will be be taking the maxima in to get all the suspension fixed as soon as the jag is out of the shop.
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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Yea sounds like the struts.

Also how easily/how much do the rear tires spin when they are off the ground. I'm not drum expert but there should be a little resistance when you try to spin them. If the struts don't cure that they may be adjusted too tight.

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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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don't hit your brakes so hard when you're coming to a stop.
did you take any weight out of the rear?
how wide are the blizzaks? you need a pretty narrow tire for snow.
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Hey I've had that happen when I had drums and they were too over-adjusted. Make sure you can spin the rear wheels when the car is jacked but not to the point where they will keep spinning. They should have some drag/resistance and if they spin free then slows then goes. I'd say you got egg shaped drums too
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxteca
he car goes sideways just like if I pulled up on the e-brake.
my car doesn't do anything but slow down (even when turning) when I do this on dry pavement. And i have bad struts, lcas, balljoints, etc as well... dunno why. I haven't driven in snow too badly yet. Just a quarter of an inch because Raleigh never sees any white stuff. but basically the less acceleration forces you can put on your car (forward, backward, lateral), the better. That's why if you start to spin out a RWD stickshift car, pushing the clutch in will sometimes help regain traction, by allowing the rear tires to stop worrying about engine power/engine braking using up available traction, and only focus on stopping the lateral slide. Snow reduces the friction coefficient, so you have to reduce the forces that are going against the friction, so that friction will still be in play.

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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BlooToof
Hey I've had that happen when I had drums and they were too over-adjusted. Make sure you can spin the rear wheels when the car is jacked but not to the point where they will keep spinning. They should have some drag/resistance and if they spin free then slows then goes. I'd say you got egg shaped drums too
Your probably right about the drums, I need to just stop being lazy and do the disc conversion. I have the parts just to lazy to do it.
Old Dec 7, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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Your probably right about the drums, I need to just stop being lazy and do the disc conversion. I have the parts just to lazy to do it.
This swap is kind of like a 5 sweed swap...its one of those swaps where you feel night and day difference. If you've got the parts, take some time to do it. You'll love your car more. TRUST ME.
Old Dec 7, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BlooToof
This swap is kind of like a 5 sweed swap...its one of those swaps where you feel night and day difference. If you've got the parts, take some time to do it. You'll love your car more. TRUST ME.
I think it should not feel any more different then my parts car did minus the not having abs. And my parts car has all new brake parts so thats a plus. I just hope I don't have the tire clearance problems you did. Did you ever get that fixed?

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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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I agree with above. Jack up the rear end and see if both rear wheels spin freely. I had a similar problem and it turned out to be that the parking brake was adjusted too tight and it drug on one side.
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