Any led tail'ed 3rd gens?
11-09-2008, 03:01 PM
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Dont mind my ashy hand lol
11-09-2008, 03:14 PM
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that's not so messy. My setup is going to involve me keeping the diffuser that goes behind the main cover (this is on 89-91 GXE tails with a 89-91 SE outer cover) so it's gonna smooth out the light anyways, so you won't actually see individual circles to the extent you see them on yours... but i'm gonna cram them in there anyways (probably using 200 total) but the real mess i'm gonna make comes from the fact that mine is going to be more electrically complex... probably not gonna produce them for sale... if i did, it would only be like 4-5 sets a year and they'd be hella expensive.yours is WAY more marketable than mine will be.
11-09-2008, 03:22 PM
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thanks that's not so messy. My setup is going to involve me keeping the diffuser that goes behind the main cover (this is on 89-91 GXE tails with a 89-91 SE outer cover) so it's gonna smooth out the light anyways, so you won't actually see individual circles to the extent you see them on yours... but i'm gonna cram them in there anyways (probably using 200 total) but the real mess i'm gonna make comes from the fact that mine is going to be more electrically complex... probably not gonna produce them for sale... if i did, it would only be like 4-5 sets a year and they'd be hella expensive.
yours is WAY more marketable than mine will be.
that's not so messy. My setup is going to involve me keeping the diffuser that goes behind the main cover (this is on 89-91 GXE tails with a 89-91 SE outer cover) so it's gonna smooth out the light anyways, so you won't actually see individual circles to the extent you see them on yours... but i'm gonna cram them in there anyways (probably using 200 total) but the real mess i'm gonna make comes from the fact that mine is going to be more electrically complex... probably not gonna produce them for sale... if i did, it would only be like 4-5 sets a year and they'd be hella expensive.yours is WAY more marketable than mine will be.
11-09-2008, 07:23 PM
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for me the 'purpose' of LEDs is because you can customize it the way you want it, improve on the way the lighting was from the factory, use less power, never change bulbs, INSTANT-on/off, etc. there's that one cadillac with LED taillights, but they are totally diffused... and i love it.
11-09-2008, 07:53 PM
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My setup is going to involve me keeping the diffuser that goes behind the main cover (this is on 89-91 GXE tails with a 89-91 SE outer cover) so it's gonna smooth out the light anyways, so you won't actually see individual circles to the extent you see them on yours... but i'm gonna cram them in there anyways (probably using 200 total)...
my first prototypes (4g):
basically as tight as you can get them (.1" clearance), but didn't turn out anything like i wanted once they were diffused. sorry no pics.
11-09-2008, 08:21 PM
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how does it 'defeat the purpose'? on LED'd cars that have totally un-diffused LEDs, the hotspots are SO damn annoying. but on 89-91 tails, the outer shell is totally smooth except for 'euro-spec' style pinstripes, and the reflector patch in the middle. so they would be TOTALLY undiffused without it. that's why i'm going to use more LEDs than you did, to make up for any output losses by diffusing the light.
for me the 'purpose' of LEDs is because you can customize it the way you want it, improve on the way the lighting was from the factory, use less power, never change bulbs, INSTANT-on/off, etc. there's that one cadillac with LED taillights, but they are totally diffused... and i love it.
for me the 'purpose' of LEDs is because you can customize it the way you want it, improve on the way the lighting was from the factory, use less power, never change bulbs, INSTANT-on/off, etc. there's that one cadillac with LED taillights, but they are totally diffused... and i love it.
11-09-2008, 09:05 PM
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hmm.. i'll grab my friend's LED flashlight and see what types of diffuser-like materials i can get my hands on, to see what will end up working best.
11-10-2008, 09:58 AM
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what you might want to try is just some frosted clear plastic. i haven't seen the insides of a cadillac tail but i am willing to bet it's either a frosted or symmetrical diffuser. the oem (in the 4g anyway) breaks it up into uneven lines.
11-10-2008, 10:23 AM
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I do like the fact that you used the the SuperFlux LEDs though, kzoosho, as I just used some 20 degree LEDs that I got from Besthongkong.com.
11-10-2008, 11:08 AM
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the early 3g tails have a fresnel etching on the trunk side, and those raised 'bubbles' on the outside-side of the diffuser. i know the diffuser etching on the 4g tails is tighter than the 3g one. and on the cadillac i'm pretty sure it is the pointy spiky stuff like you find if you break open one of those reflectors that goes in the spokes of a bicycle wheel.
11-10-2008, 09:34 PM
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I will probably do what i have been doing for the 4th gen folks. Have you send me the tails and ill send you leds installed. I could ship boards but they may or may not fit. These arent printed boards. This is all hand fabbed. I would love to get them done like kevlo does but then the cost would reflect that i did. As it sits i am able to do the same 3 row setup as Kev for a hundred less installed. SO i am trying to keep that going.
11-11-2008, 07:03 AM
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I will ship to canada. It cost a lil more but i only charge actual shipping.
We all know that center is diff from 89-91 and well this is a 91 . I am waiting for the center section to put a couple leds in it.
We all know that center is diff from 89-91 and well this is a 91 . I am waiting for the center section to put a couple leds in it.
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(I thought I was original)Anyways, I would like to see your creation
11-11-2008, 06:29 PM
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The price is still in the air. To be honest the ones i have made i was going to ask close to 300 but they are plug and play.
Yea i have 91 tails laying here i need to open up and play with
300 and pm me for paypal addy . Now the back are you talkin the back of the housing?
Yea i have 91 tails laying here i need to open up and play with
300 and pm me for paypal addy . Now the back are you talkin the back of the housing?
11-12-2008, 02:09 AM
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11-12-2008, 04:05 AM
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Yes, the back of the tail light. $300 is a do-able price for a set of these but you should do a group deal for 10 or more ppl. Also Im curious to see the turn signals light up if u can.
The price is still in the air. To be honest the ones i have made i was going to ask close to 300 but they are plug and play.
Yea i have 91 tails laying here i need to open up and play with
300 and pm me for paypal addy . Now the back are you talkin the back of the housing?
Yea i have 91 tails laying here i need to open up and play with
300 and pm me for paypal addy . Now the back are you talkin the back of the housing?
11-12-2008, 05:40 AM
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I can snap you a shot today when i get out of class. I group buy would be fine with me but the only thing would be the time to make them. each set of tails takes me close to a week to do so 10 sets well that would be a little over 2 months. I am more than willing to do them but just want people to understand that these aren't a over night job.
11-12-2008, 07:21 AM
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I have had custom LED boards designed and fabricated for me for vision systems that my company makes. If you are thinking you could sell 10 or more I bet the boards would be <$30 each. The design would probably be in the $500 range, maybe even less if you provide them with your prototype. If interested i could hook you up with the design & fab house we use. PM me if interested.
11-12-2008, 07:43 AM
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I have had custom LED boards designed and fabricated for me for vision systems that my company makes. If you are thinking you could sell 10 or more I bet the boards would be <$30 each. The design would probably be in the $500 range, maybe even less if you provide them with your prototype. If interested i could hook you up with the design & fab house we use. PM me if interested.
11-12-2008, 11:17 AM
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the fact that you cracked the bread board for the other half of the brake lights made the other LEDs fire off angle than the other ones. that causes off angle distortion you see in the red part. at least make a clean cut with a dremel or something.
i say good effort but not my cup of tea...but that's just me personally.
i say good effort but not my cup of tea...but that's just me personally.
11-12-2008, 11:21 AM
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the fact that you cracked the bread board for the other half of the brake lights made the other LEDs fire off angle than the other ones. that causes off angle distortion you see in the red part. at least make a clean cut with a dremel or something.
i say good effort but not my cup of tea...but that's just me personally.
i say good effort but not my cup of tea...but that's just me personally.
11-12-2008, 11:44 AM
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11-12-2008, 12:33 PM
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kk. I think ditching it is the way to go on the 92-94 but i'm wary of it on the 89-91s just cuz the outer cover is crystal clear. Also bear in mind i'm going to be using tricolor RGB LEDs instead of single-color LEDs, so the focal conversion of the light beams is something else to take into consideration on my setup, ESPECIALLY on the white parts.
11-12-2008, 12:35 PM
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kk. I think ditching it is the way to go on the 92-94 but i'm wary of it on the 89-91s just cuz the outer cover is crystal clear. Also bear in mind i'm going to be using tricolor RGB LEDs instead of single-color LEDs, so the focal conversion of the light beams is something else to take into consideration on my setup, ESPECIALLY on the white parts.
11-14-2008, 11:57 AM
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