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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:06 AM
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Door question

Dumb question that may have been answered before (couldnt find anything).

The metal in the door (after trim removal) is all a single peice right?
Or can I remove the inside face, so I can access the components easier?

The cable for my passenger side window has snapped and tighened itself on something, I can't get it back over the top wheel.
Its 22:00.
I have a window being held up by a wedged in door handle, and a whole lot of duct tape, in a not-soo-friendly suburb.
I've got all the parts to fix this from that other hunk of grap in my driveway, but I dont feel secure about waiting till tomrrow afternoon / weekend, and it might rain tomrrow, the window likely isnt completely sealed.

Any advice?
If thers a way to remove the interior face metal of the door, I can replace the thing ALOT quicker than otherwise (I also have to replace the glass, scratched by the wire).
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:12 AM
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don't remove the outer door skin.
remove the inner door card/panel.
unscrew the window regulator and glass. pull out glass from top....do the same w/ the window regulator. reinstall new window reg.
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DanNY
don't remove the outer door skin.
remove the inner door card/panel.
unscrew the window regulator and glass. pull out glass from top....do the same w/ the window regulator. reinstall new window reg.
The outside door panel was kind of out of the question.
What do you mean by the card/panel?

Quater past, reckon a couple of cans of RedBull, and a pissed off mood, I can do it in under 20 minutes?
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:39 AM
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Thanks for the link, I've done all that already though.
Roughly how long does it take that method to replace the regulator? anyone recall?
If its faily quick for each door, I'll use the weekend to replace all the windows with my tinted glass and fix all the regulators.
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:45 AM
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I hate when people ask how long it takes to fix something on a car

It takes me 10-15 minutes to remove/replace the window regulator on these cars, but i've done this so many times that i could do it blindfolded..We have no idea how competent you are with tools/car work, so it's just impossible to say how long it's going to take you to fix it..
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Greeny
I hate when people ask how long it takes to fix something on a car

It takes me 10-15 minutes to remove/replace the window regulator on these cars, but i've done this so many times that i could do it blindfolded..We have no idea how competent you are with tools/car work, so it's just impossible to say how long it's going to take you to fix it..
The idea of asking everyone is to gauge an average time
Lets say 20-25 minutes, tops. Ive done a window replacement before, but that wasnt power windows, and alot more of the door was exposed after the trim was taken out.

Thanks for the info.
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it took me a couple of days to do my first window regulator.
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 09:06 AM
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it took me a couple of days to do my first window regulator.
That's how long it took you to buy another VE?
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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20-30 min should be the "average"
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Niccos89
Dumb question that may have been answered before (couldnt find anything).

The metal in the door (after trim removal) is all a single peice right?
Or can I remove the inside face, so I can access the components easier?

The cable for my passenger side window has snapped and tighened itself on something, I can't get it back over the top wheel.
Its 22:00.
I have a window being held up by a wedged in door handle, and a whole lot of duct tape, in a not-soo-friendly suburb.
I've got all the parts to fix this from that other hunk of grap in my driveway, but I dont feel secure about waiting till tomrrow afternoon / weekend, and it might rain tomrrow, the window likely isnt completely sealed.

Any advice?
If thers a way to remove the interior face metal of the door, I can replace the thing ALOT quicker than otherwise (I also have to replace the glass, scratched by the wire).
the part of the door you wanted to remove doesn't come off. i know it's annoying esp if you want to replace the door lock motor or something like that, but you just have to look as best you can, then reach in there blind, basically. For the window regulators, it's pretty easy to do without being able to explicitly see everything like you're looking for.
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Originally Posted by Gunther
That's how long it took you to buy another VE?
nah, I was doing it at work between phone calls.
it took me a couple of years to buy another VE.
Old Mar 12, 2009 | 06:27 AM
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Did it.
First thing I did, unbolt the glass to remove it from the door, and what happens? it falls and jams my fingers - great start. Took me about 30 minutes to have it swapped, and both cars all put back together. A lot easier with the speaker taken out. The old regulator is good right f**ked.
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Originally Posted by Niccos89
Did it.
First thing I did, unbolt the glass to remove it from the door, and what happens? it falls and jams my fingers - great start. Took me about 30 minutes to have it swapped, and both cars all put back together. A lot easier with the speaker taken out. The old regulator is good right f**ked.
you forgot the loop of tape to hold the window up I take it.
Old Mar 13, 2009 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
you forgot the loop of tape to hold the window up I take it.
I took it off and was pretty sure I could just hold onto it / catch it when the second screw came off.
Had to lower the window anyway to unscrew it from the motor, couldnt get the screwdriver up there with the window fully closed.
Old Mar 13, 2009 | 01:19 AM
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i've always just removed the whole window glass from the door (fronts, anyhow.. never done a rear one yet). takes four seconds to remove, and eight to put back in. no smashed fingers, just a functioning power window in about less time than it took my friend to order and eat his ice cream at Coldstone (ya i changed it in the parking lot). true story

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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CapedCadaver
i've always just removed the whole window glass from the door (fronts, anyhow.. never done a rear one yet). takes four seconds to remove, and eight to put back in. no smashed fingers, just a functioning power window in about less time than it took my friend to order and eat his ice cream at Coldstone (ya i changed it in the parking lot). true story
Speed - it should be legalized .
The rear windows arent too bad, theyre a bastard, but a decent bastard to get out, and replacing the quater panel is a nightmare.
Old Mar 13, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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Speed - it should be legalized .
The rear windows arent too bad, theyre a bastard, but a decent bastard to get out, and replacing the quater panel is a nightmare.
quarter panel? you mean the door panelling? quarterpanels (in US english anyhow) are part of the outside of the car. what problems did you have with them? there might be an easier way if they were that hard.
Old Mar 13, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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I think he means the part of the window on the back doors that don't open.
Old Mar 13, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunther
I think he means the part of the window on the back doors that don't open.
ohhhhh yea. those. ugh. i've heard horror stories.
Old Mar 13, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Yeah, the fixed glass in the rear windows.
I was broken into, they smashed that window. All they took was 2 phillips-head screwdrivers and about $2.00 in silver coins. Good thing I'd remembered to take my spare set of keys out of the glovebox that afternoon.
$194 for glass, $35 for tinting, and about 45 minutes to get the door apart, the glass in and water sealed. Wasnt a happy chap as one can imagine.
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