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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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Just wondering if this was possible

I was reading something and this guy/girl states that they added a filter to the PCV and now the car gets 37 MPG that about 13+ more than wat these cars get from the factory on average, I'm not stupid enough 2 believe this, but can it actually be done???
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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I was reading something and this guy/girl states that they added a filter to the PCV and now the car gets 37 MPG that about 13+ more than wat these cars get from the factory on average, I'm not stupid enough 2 believe this, but can it actually be done???
99.9999999% chance it's total bs. otherwise millions of people would do the same thing....
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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99.9999999% chance it's total bs. otherwise millions of people would do the same thing....
yea thats what I was sayin bcuz if this was tru I'd think we all would be runnin this rite now
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CapedCadaver
99.9999999% chance it's total bs. otherwise millions of people would do the same thing....


X2..
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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maybe for one of those ricers since they all use that garbage since they think its cool.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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well r u talking about this filter in the image i have?...i m not sure about or never seen this filter bumping the gas mileage up that much but it does help to push the fresh air through the crank case..not to mention if ur pistons rings are worn out u will have oil coming in ur intake tube making it dirty....so if u put that filter there it will work as its own and seal the place on ur intake pipe....i dont think if it helps gas mileage never notice it...

Old Jul 30, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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Well it is a V6, so anything that high is highly improbable. To get even close to that you'd have to be going down hill at low, low rpms haha. +13 from an air filter is.. a lie.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CapedCadaver
99.9999999% chance it's total bs. otherwise millions of people would do the same thing....
Ditto... and +1
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by burhan92SE
well r u talking about this filter in the image i have?...i m not sure about or never seen this filter bumping the gas mileage up that much but it does help to push the fresh air through the crank case..not to mention if ur pistons rings are worn out u will have oil coming in ur intake tube making it dirty....so if u put that filter there it will work as its own and seal the place on ur intake pipe....i dont think if it helps gas mileage never notice it...

Question, been a long time since engines 1 and i may be totaly off but i though oil in your intake tube was a sign of a bad PCV valve not bad rings.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by burhan92SE
well r u talking about this filter in the image i have?...i m not sure about or never seen this filter bumping the gas mileage up that much but it does help to push the fresh air through the crank case..not to mention if ur pistons rings are worn out u will have oil coming in ur intake tube making it dirty....so if u put that filter there it will work as its own and seal the place on ur intake pipe....i dont think if it helps gas mileage never notice it...

sortof but not really. technically you MIGHT be able to get a theoretical increase in MPG from that, but in actuality you wouldn't get anything. theoretical is just because your maf is not accounting for the air that your pcv valve is using... meaning your maf signal is a TINY BIT lower and thus so is your fuel output, but if your o2 sensor works like it's supposed to it it's gonna negate that effect for the most part. and if your o2 doesn't work, then your MPG will suck anyways.
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Originally Posted by James92SE
Dude, all you need is the Z5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Ded9eoxIM
do you have one?

tho if something has LEGITIMATE multiple-independent-test results that's one thing (which that video indicates it actually might....) but every other drop-in ring thingy i've seen was total bs.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CapedCadaver
do you have one?

tho if something has LEGITIMATE multiple-independent-test results that's one thing (which that video indicates it actually might....) but every other drop-in ring thingy i've seen was total bs.
No, I don't have one, but I've actually done quite a bit of digging and around on it. I've come across quite a few (what appear to be) legitimate tests that seem to indicate it actually works (of course it's always overseas crap), and came across several forums where guys stateside bought them and promised to chime back in with results, but they never did follow up on it.

My mind tells me there's no possible way it works, plus what kind of secret "alloy" could that kid possibly have thought of that all the world's major automobile manufacturers didn't, etc. Plus, in the video of him piddling on the engine bay it's obvious he doesn't even know what he's doing.

I would have to think that if it works there'd be more mainstream stuff about it rather than just the weird overseas or obscure blogs and whatnot that have tested it.

*Also, see, even this article is several months old:

http://www.israel21c.org/bin/en.jsp?...nZone=Profiles

If the thing actually worked you'd think it'd be big news by now

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If the thing actually worked you'd think it'd be big news by now
unless teh Big Bad Oil Companies are paying off teh media to keep it a secret

because regardless whether or not you believe they actually DO that... you know for darn sure that they CAN with all the money they've got....
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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There were "freak" carburetors back in the 70's "made it out" of the factory that could achieve 30-40s MPG... dang skippy they bought up all those cars... is the tech available for better millage vehicles? YES... is that profitable to the most powerful people in the world to start making them... NO! So it's not gonna happen... and when someone comes up with an idea you can bet they will be bought out or bled out...
Old Jul 31, 2009 | 04:14 AM
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Well it is a V6, so anything that high is highly improbable. To get even close to that you'd have to be going down hill at low, low rpms haha. +13 from an air filter is.. a lie.
He/she neva said air filter they just said filter
Old Jul 31, 2009 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by CapedCadaver
unless teh Big Bad Oil Companies are paying off teh media to keep it a secret

because regardless whether or not you believe they actually DO that... you know for darn sure that they CAN with all the money they've got....
Yea tru
Old Jul 31, 2009 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by burhan92SE
well r u talking about this filter in the image i have?...i m not sure about or never seen this filter bumping the gas mileage up that much but it does help to push the fresh air through the crank case..not to mention if ur pistons rings are worn out u will have oil coming in ur intake tube making it dirty....so if u put that filter there it will work as its own and seal the place on ur intake pipe....i dont think if it helps gas mileage never notice it...

And i have never seen a pic of his/her idea, but i doubt thats what they where talkin bout
Old Jul 31, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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yep, they add 13mpg and they add on average 35-40 HP, more than average stickers and body kits
Old Aug 3, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 300zmax
Question, been a long time since engines 1 and i may be totaly off but i though oil in your intake tube was a sign of a bad PCV valve not bad rings.
u r 100% correct what u said. That also causes oil in ur intake but worn rings and scored cylinders also causes this cuz it allows excessive blowby gases to enter the crankcase and the PCV valve opening may not be large enough to allow the gases to flow into intake manifold, results creating a high pressure from the blowby gases in the crankcase and some of the gases r forced through the clean air hose and filter into the air cleaner and there u go u have oil in ur pcv filter and air cleaner or wherever it goes to....
Old Aug 4, 2009 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by kringle03
There were "freak" carburetors back in the 70's "made it out" of the factory that could achieve 30-40s MPG... dang skippy they bought up all those cars... is the tech available for better millage vehicles? YES... is that profitable to the most powerful people in the world to start making them... NO! So it's not gonna happen... and when someone comes up with an idea you can bet they will be bought out or bled out...
I seriously doubt such a carb ever existed. an engine needs a certain amount of fuel to be able to run properly without damage. ever hear of "lean" and "rich" conditions? ony way to avoid these is to reduce (or increase) air, as well.

no air, no fuel, no power.
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