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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Running Rough VE

My buddies VE hasn't been running too good lately. It's hesitating on acceleration and feels like an injector went bad, but no "putt putt" from the muffler like my VG had. I pulled the coils to check for cracks and they checked out fine. Cleaned the maf, and new air filter. I also started checking the injectors, but could not get to the rear ones. I assume there is no way to check the rears?

And finally I saw some dirty oil residue deep in the spark plug hole, but haven't pulled the plugs. Is it possible the valve cover went a little bad, and fouled up the plugs? Could the plugs cause the engine to mis-fire like that if they were dirty? I only replaced them with OEM plugs like 20k miles ago.
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 11:59 PM
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You have to take the Upper IM off to access the rear injectors. It is probably one of them. I know what the problem is. I just can't remember at this time what it is. I can hear the putt putt sound and I fixed that on mine but can't remember what I did right now.

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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 12:05 AM
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Ah! Mine did this right before she died. Turns out it was before I set the timing. <-- culprit
As soon as she would putt and almost die I would tap the gas and she would shoot to 2k rpms. Are you sure the throttle cables are adjusted right? Has your friend tried anything and not told you? Thats the problem with ppl who are entering the mechanic world. They dive in face 1st not knowing a 100% what they are doing and screw up. Later to find it embarrassing what they did they don't admit to it. But the screw up always tells the story.
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by maximo018
You have to take the Upper IM off to access the rear injectors.

they can be checked by unplugging the injector harness next to
the intake but you need a book to see what to ohm test
not sure but the vg sohc might be the same
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 11:27 PM
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[QUOTE=VEvolution;7519885]My buddies VE hasn't been running too good lately. I also started checking the injectors, but could not get to the rear ones. I assume there is no way to check the rears? /QUOTE]

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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 11:27 PM
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My buddies VE hasn't been running too good lately. I also started checking the injectors, but could not get to the rear ones. I assume there is no way to check the rears? .
SEE ABOVE RESPONSE
Old May 9, 2010 | 12:46 AM
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Ah! Mine did this right before she died. Turns out it was before I set the timing. <-- culprit
As soon as she would putt and almost die I would tap the gas and she would shoot to 2k rpms. Are you sure the throttle cables are adjusted right? Has your friend tried anything and not told you? Thats the problem with ppl who are entering the mechanic world. They dive in face 1st not knowing a 100% what they are doing and screw up. Later to find it embarrassing what they did they don't admit to it. But the screw up always tells the story.
You really think its one of those rear injectors? What exactly in the harness do you ohm test? I don't have the FSM anymore.
Old May 9, 2010 | 06:10 AM
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Before I would take out any injectors I would clean/tweek out all the connectors and harness connectors. Normally I check the timing first for hesitation reasons, then check coil/wires//plugs for proper spark and then fuel delivery systems. Could be something you might have missed and I'm sure you have already checked but I'm just saying.
Old May 9, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Before I would take out any injectors I would clean/tweek out all the connectors and harness connectors. Normally I check the timing first for hesitation reasons, then check coil/wires//plugs for proper spark and then fuel delivery systems. Could be something you might have missed and I'm sure you have already checked but I'm just saying.
Definitly haven't checked the timing yet. You know his spark plugs are really dirty. But they only have 20k on them. Is there any good ways of cleaning spark plugs?
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Old May 10, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Never did find the plug for the rear injectors, but luckily we found the problem. The spark plug in the middle cylinder at the front, was drenched in oil. What does this mean? Valve cover gasket? Anyway, cleaned them all up, started it up and shes firing on all 6 once again. Except as you accelerate sometimes, the power just completely cuts off. Similar to the shaking you get if your in second gear, and didn't give enough throttle so the clutch is trying to grab on and the whole car jerks. Feels almost like a tranny issue, but maybe not. Any ideas? Would a poorly adjusted throttle cable cause this? I was messin around with it and trying to make it tensioned by the "drum" how the FSM calls it, but could not get the throttle lever side to get tensioned.

Also, after we were done my friend popped out with a "V" and an "E", so we did what came natural

I don't think it came out too bad actually..

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Man more things have gone wrong at once with your old car under your friends ownership than when you had it.
Old May 10, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by maximo018
Man more things have gone wrong at once with your old car under your friends ownership than when you had it.
Well hes younger then me and it's his first car, so thats okay. Compared to me and my first car, hes not doing too bad Of course I had nobody helping me fix it or showing me the ropes. I wasted money when I did not need to till I smartened up and found these forums.
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Luckily I had the forum in the beginning.
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if there's oil in the spark plug tube, you're gonna need to pull the valve covers and replace the spark plug tube seals. You can pick em up individually at the dealer for like 4 bucks each. The old ones you can pop out with a flat head screw driver and the new ones you just tap in lightly with a socket of similar diameter to the seal and a hammer. Might as well do valve cover gasket while you're in there...
stay away from felpro or any other aftermarket POS gasket if you don't feel like redoing the job.


How's the knock sensor?
Old May 11, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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if there's oil in the spark plug tube, you're gonna need to pull the valve covers and replace the spark plug tube seals. You can pick em up individually at the dealer for like 4 bucks each. The old ones you can pop out with a flat head screw driver and the new ones you just tap in lightly with a socket of similar diameter to the seal and a hammer. Might as well do valve cover gasket while you're in there...
stay away from felpro or any other aftermarket POS gasket if you don't feel like redoing the job.


How's the knock sensor?
I can really get the gaskets individually? Or just the tube gaskets can be bought seperate? Because I don't feel like ripping off the intake manifold to do the back gasket since it's not nessacery, and just interested in doing the front. Online I see they all come together
Old May 11, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by VEvolution
I can really get the gaskets individually? Or just the tube gaskets can be bought seperate? Because I don't feel like ripping off the intake manifold to do the back gasket since it's not nessacery, and just interested in doing the front. Online I see they all come together
Yea you can purchase them separately as long as it's at the dealer. You're lucky its the front and not the back lol
Old May 11, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Yea you can purchase them separately as long as it's at the dealer. You're lucky its the front and not the back lol
Lol, yeah. Thanks. Not sure the condition of the knock sensor since his performance seems just fine.
Old May 11, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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sickk ve eblem

WOW that VE emblem is no joke...i've had a ve sitting in my garage for years and now you have inspired me to race my VE once again!
Old May 11, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BeavidyMon-VE
WOW that VE emblem is no joke...i've had a ve sitting in my garage for years and now you have inspired me to race my VE once again!
Im glad you like the VE emblem. Got pics of this race worthy VE?
Old May 11, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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nah I wish..I havent gotten around to getting a new digi camera but I plan to soon, ill put pics up when I get the chance what a beautiful car its a shame your pal has this problem
Old May 11, 2010 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ColombianMax
if there's oil in the spark plug tube, you're gonna need to pull the valve covers and replace the spark plug tube seals. You can pick em up individually at the dealer for like 4 bucks each. The old ones you can pop out with a flat head screw driver and the new ones you just tap in lightly with a socket of similar diameter to the seal and a hammer. Might as well do valve cover gasket while you're in there...
stay away from felpro or any other aftermarket POS gasket if you don't feel like redoing the job.


How's the knock sensor?
I got a question. Does the VE30de use spark plug tubes and isn't the gasket a part of the valve cover gasket?
Old May 11, 2010 | 11:46 PM
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I got a question. Does the VE30de use spark plug tubes and isn't the gasket a part of the valve cover gasket?
I think your right..

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/de...Q036-1710.html
Old May 12, 2010 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Augustus Maximus
I got a question. Does the VE30de use spark plug tubes and isn't the gasket a part of the valve cover gasket?

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I think he may be on to something here... dang VEs have to be so darn different! VQ30DE use tube seals while the VE apparently has it as one full gasket! Kind of convenient actually...

Here's a link to courtesy's and yes its cheaper than autoparts warehouse however its for only one side

http://www.courtesyparts.com/maxima-...1612_1616.html

http://www.courtesyparts.com/kb_search_result.php?keywords=[13270]+\(j30&cPath=1610_1611_1612_1616

The link with the price was just for the gasket you can see in the diagram, I don't know if thats the one you need or not so if you're ordering, please be sure to look into it so I don't get blamed for purchasing the wrong part lol

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Correct location, wrong emblem.
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Snatched this from Cardana24 engine swap thread. Here's what we she looks like under the cover.
Old May 12, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ColombianMax
I think he may be on to something here... dang VEs have to be so darn different! VQ30DE use tube seals while the VE apparently has it as one full gasket! Kind of convenient actually...

Here's a link to courtesy's and yes its cheaper than autoparts warehouse however its for only one side

http://www.courtesyparts.com/maxima-...1612_1616.html

http://www.courtesyparts.com/kb_search_result.php?keywords=[13270]+\(j30&cPath=1610_1611_1612_1616

The link with the price was just for the gasket you can see in the diagram, I don't know if thats the one you need or not so if you're ordering, please be sure to look into it so I don't get blamed for purchasing the wrong part lol
Thanks for the link mang. Nice price. Looking at the picture of the engine layout, it looks like it's for the front.


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Correct location, wrong emblem.
It's more of an inside joke thing between me and my friend rather then anything else. And also many Maxima enthusiasts will know what that means. Should probably put an italic red 5 there too hehe

Originally Posted by Augustus Maximus
Snatched this from Cardana24 engine swap thread. Here's what we she looks like under the cover.
Wow sweet pic.. Always wanted to know what the VE cams look like. V6's are so cute and compact. This is what I have to deal with..

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