shiloh51933

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That shyt is Bad Asssss!!!!

Brad92SE

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I think I remember reading 55/45 distribution as well. Do you know if that is N/A or TT?

I'm pretty sure the block itself sits at pretty much the same location as the VG. The VG heads/intake manifold were designed with the accessory stuff (EGR, thermostat, coolant lines, etc) very tightly packaged on the block to fit in the engine bay and close to the firewall. The VE is alot more "spread out" with the accessory stuff, which is what I ran into trying to get the motor to fit. The VE appears to sit a little higher than the VG, but I think that is just because the heads on the VE are at a tighter angle, and the lower intake manifold puts the upper manifold mounting point higher than the VG in comparison.

MrGone

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Brad that is awesome, sorry to hear about the max but nice work!

4signs

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OMG Brad!! Nice work man

shiloh51933

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The Z32 is Dope but I'm really interested in your Boosted 3RDGEN Max, what's good!!

Jeff92se

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Cool. What the idea on the exhaust manifolds?

KRRZ350

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Major major props, lot's of workarounds & stupid little things to make work in a swap like that I know exactly what you mean. That oil pan is impressive, a work of art for sure.

Brad92SE

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I just used the stock VE manifolds, and cut off the flanges to shorten them up and rewelded standard 3-bolt flanges angled slightly rearward. I am running a similar up-pipe setup as I had on the maxima, with 2" pipes off the manifolds into a 2.5" up to the turbo. There is much less piping though, which is nice, and the wastegate is diverging at a more congruent angle.

Thanks! After driving around for a bit, the only leak I have is a little one coming from where my oil cooler lines fit onto the cooler barb fittings.

I have yet to get into full boost with it, but just driving around part-throttle it seems like boost builds up much faster than in the Max, and there seems to be significantly improved throttle response as well.

GRNMAXDMON

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Freaking bad *** Brad!!! Now you have a 2 door maxima. Damn sucks that im no longer living in texas but it would have been bad *** to see your Z up close and personal. Moved back to Miami.

Brad92SE

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Well so far so good for the most part, but the engine is having a hard time starting when its cold. When the car has been sitting for a long time in the cold, it will fire up after about 2 cranks, then sputter and die right away. To get it started, I have to pump the gas pedal while cranking it. Once it starts up it blows out a good bit of smoke from running super rich, then begins to run alright. If the engine is relatively warm (i.e. not sitting out in freezing temps), it fires up like a champ

Also, starting yesterday I noticed that when I'm coming to a stop and press in the clutch, the RPMs will drop to 500 or below, but go back to 750-800 after stopping. This only happens when pressing the brakes, because if I push the clutch in at speed, the RPMs will drop right to 750-800. I shortened the brake booster vacuum line before this started happening, but the hose isnt cracked or anything, and the check valve is installed correctly.

It idles a tad bit rough, but nothing that makes me concerned. I'm kind of suspecting a vacuum leak somewhere, but I'm not 100% sure. Does anyone have any thoughts?

4signs

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It idles a tad bit rough, but nothing that makes me concerned. I'm kind of suspecting a vacuum leak somewhere, but I'm not 100% sure. Does anyone have any thoughts?[/QUOTE]
If you find that it isnt vacuum
Check the idle air control valve on the back of the manifold. Then check ECU coolant temp sensor followed by Throttle Position Sensor

Creedence85

Great job! Nice to see something like this, which is a bit outside the box, and as cool as forced induction was in a VE Maxima, nice to see it in a chassis that can handle the power.

I'm curious, what sort of engine internals are you running?

VEvolution

These motors don't need beefed up internals

James92SE

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Off-topic but your VE is soooooo clean!

perkman87

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Nice work. I expect [hd] video.

VEvolution

Thats how mine use to be before I sold it

Brad92SE

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Thanks, I'll have to check those out. The IACV might be the issue (i hope), since I adapted the VE IACV mechanicals to the Z32 IACV housing, so maybe something isnt working like it should there.

I'm running stock VE rods/crank (which are forged from the factory) with forged Wiseco 87.5mm Z32 pistons. The only other work I've had done is balancing the rotating assembly and polishing the crank.

I need to get a legit video camera... but once I do I'll be putting up more videos for sure!

maximo018

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Have you started moving down here yet?

Brad92SE

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If you count sorta packing my stuff, then I have started, haha I'm planning to actually get to Austin probably this coming Thursday or Friday, with me and my load of old maxima parts that I need to sell/get rid of.

maximo018

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hoo ray!

Matt93SE

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Kickass! Take the weekend off of moving and come to Houston. I have an SCCA race this weekend. You don't have a spare radiator for that thing, do you? Mine has a crack in the top tank and I need to find another. Might start tracking it again for grins if I can get it up and running again.

try sticking a vaccum gauge/pump on your brake booster. it almost sounds like you have a small leak in the diaphragm of the booster. worth taking a looksee anyway.
BUT.. my built VE did/does the same thing.. Idling with the AC on was a royal beyotch due to the RPM drop. I chalked mine up to the higher compression and ported heads sucking more airflow at idle than the IACV could process, so I was going to grab another IACV and port the thing out for more airflow through it and see if that helps.

Panzerbane

I just graduated from Wyotech's Street Rod and custom fab program, learning how to do stuff just like that. Thanks for validating all of the crazy sick things I aspire to do in some neighborhood garage someday.

89boostedmax

dumb question but what car did the ve origanally come from. i've only messed with the sohc vg.

Intel

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Quick question about the throttle body setup. Why the need for that plastic spacer? Are the bolt holes that far off from the VE throttle body to the engine?

Guys have put on pulsar throttle bodys that are 60mm and ground out the intake on the 300zx manifold to make them fit. Otherwise Z1 sells throttle bodys that will fit without any fuss.

Great job though, was thinking you were going to fab a single throttle body manifold from the way this thing started as I figured the stock one would be too high. A couple of guys have done similar on VG30dett motors for various reasons.

Intel

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Also fix whatever caused your rear bumper to melt like that. Something had to have gone crazy with whatever plate bulb they put in there.

VEvolution

VE came from the 3rd gen.. Interesting how people own cars and know nothing about the features offered for them. Never bought parts for your "boosted" VG and had the guy at the counter ask you if it was SOHC or DOHC?

2000_MAXIMA_KING

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Couldn't believe how smooth the first start up went after all the modifications for the swap!

chrome91

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VE were only ever found in 1992-1994 SE Maximas, no other vehicles. albeit apparently the VE is really similar to VG30DE

Darkwing48

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What's more surprising, a Nissan Salesman doesn't know.
"There are two six cyl. engines, VG and VQ" Or something like that

James92SE

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I remember back in like '96 or so when my mom bought her '92 SE used at a Nissan dealership (later handed down to me in '01 as my first car), the Nissan salesman was telling her how it had the same engine as the 300zx

chrome91

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god i see that all the time lol, people selling their VE and saying its the Z engine. kinda scary they dont even know VE were only in 3 years of Maximas

VEvolution

Heh, at least he still remembers the VG.. Most know only as far as whats on display at the dealership from my experience.


Those noobs.. Well at least performance wise they are pretty similar.

chrome91

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ive read that VG30DE in Z32 are really similar to VE30DE in 3rd gens though so it makes sense i guess in a way, but Maxima and Z31 VG30E are exactly the same (minus the turbo model of course lol)

Cliff Clavin

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they aren't similar in any way, except they are V6, DOHC and 3L.

even the V angle is different in them. Not to mention, coils vs. dizzy, timing chain vs. timing belt, VTCs on the VE, single vs. twin TBs, etc

Maxpwer

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I have to hand it to you, amazing job. One of the biggest downsides to the Z32 in my opinion has always been the ridiculously heavy VG30DE adding to its already heavy frame (almost 3700LBS for some TT models) Even the V8 LS motors are lighter than the VG30DE!!
While I've long looked for a decent 240sx to swap my VG30ET into, their rarity in good shape and decent price has lead me to considered a Z32 for my VG30ET swap.

What size injectors are you running and have you considered using using the NISTUNE ECU? Are you running a front mount and if so is there room for a fairly large one? What turbo are you running and what are your power goals with it? Are you really thinking of going twin turbo at some point, and if so will the Z32 turbo manifolds bolt up to the VE?

If I could make one suggestion, I know you arent planning on running an A/C, but do yourself a favor and leave room for one in the future while you are still fabbing. I've been running no AC for years and since its a summer only car I've grown tired of the heat and now Im spending all kinds of effort tweeking and redoing intercooling piping to make it fit.

James92SE

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+1 on the A/C, especially considering it's soon going to be a Texas car!

Brad92SE

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Ahh, I'm finally down to Texas! Moving was a huge PITA, I cant believe how much stuff I have... it's embarassing. Packing and moving all within a week is not recommended for maintaining sanity Filled up a 10x20 storage unit, but I did bring a good deal of Maxima parts that I still need to get rid of.

I was going to use the Maxima radiator, but it started leaking as soon as I filled it due to damage from my wreck. I'm using the thin a$$ Z32 one for right now. Where should I connect a vacuum gauge to on the booster? Just where the manifold hose connects to?

Awesome! The sky is the limit... or the amount of tools at your disposal. Working in a garage is a pain compared to on a lift, but it keeps you honest.

The bottom bolt holes on the VE TB are just slightly lower (looking at the front of the engine) than the Z32 TBs. Since they are so close together, I had to make that aluminum adapter so that the VE bottom bolts had something to thread into. I suppose a single piece of thicker aluminum would have worked, but the plastic is what I had laying around, so it was convenient, and it also acts as a gasket. The Z32 bottom bolt holes are very close to the opening, so most counter-sunk screw heads would be too large in order to get a single spacer to work.

Initially, I was going to use a single TB with a custom log-style intake manifold, but I decided to go with the Z32 manifold because it is very low-slung to fit under the hood, and takes out another variable in getting the car to run well since it has already been designed to work in turbo applications.

They are somewhat similar, they have many common sensors, both have coil on plug ignition, forged crank/rods, and the ECUs are verrrry similar. I think that the VG30DE also has some sort of variable ignition timing as well. Like you said though, the V angles are different and the VG has a belt. Injectors are also different year to year vs the Maxima; the VE style injectors werent used in the Z32 until 95+ I believe. Before that, they had the same injector style (and same flow for the NA Z) as the VG Maximas.

I'm running 550cc injectors right now with an Emanage blue. I will likely go to Nistune at some point, when funds and time allow. The Emanage works fairly well, but I hear Nistune is pretty awesome. I have a T3/T04e turbo, which I think the exhaust side is a tad bit small, but the boost around town is instant and the compressor is matched pretty well to ~14-15 psi. Ultimately though, I'd like to get up to 650hp, so that will likely take a bigger turbo. I'll probably stick with a single turbo... less parts to buy

There is plenty of room for a front mount, the core size of mine is 23.5"x11.75"x3". The front bumper facia sits out far enough so the intercooler is VERY hard to see unless you are down there looking for it. Lots of open space.

Too late for the A/C, I will just have to sweat, haha. I didnt have a charged A/C in my Maxima for a couple years, and didnt have any complaints in the summer. Maybe the Texas heat will change that, but I'll just pop the tops

Maxnine

Just wanted to say great job on the VE powered Z.

IThaJokaI

This is pretty sweet, my room mate has a n/a vg z32 sitting out back on coilovers with a blown up clutch. I showed him this and now he wants to motor swap it when we pull it to replace the clutch.

VEvolution

Haven't seen you in awhile.. Joined the BMW club I see
Mine is always broken