anyone interested in 3rd gen bbk
anyone interested in 3rd gen bbk
I have been running a custom BBK on my the 3rd gen for the past 8 yrs . On my BBK I am utilizing 30mm 300zx twin piston calipers with 99 Mitsu 3000gt vr4 rotors ( I believe they either a 12.5” or 12.75” rotor). The VR4 rotors fits our hubs perfectly and do not require spacers. This set up also clears my 17” wheels and the brakes perform a hell of lot better than stock. I have a friend who is a machinist that is willing to replicate my BBK brackets. I’m just curious to see if any member would be interested in a set of brackets. You will have to source 300zx calipers, brake lines and VR4 rotors. The price of the brackets should be about $160.00 shipped.
I have been running a custom BBK on my the 3rd gen for the past 8 yrs . On my BBK I am utilizing 30mm 300zx twin piston calipers with 99 Mitsu 3000gt vr4 rotors ( I believe they either a 12.5” or 12.75” rotor). The VR4 rotors fits our hubs perfectly and do not require spacers. This set up also clears my 17” wheels and the brakes perform a hell of lot better than stock. I have a friend who is a machinist that is willing to replicate my BBK brackets. I’m just curious to see if any member would be interested in a set of brackets. You will have to source 300zx calipers, brake lines and VR4 rotors. The price of the brackets should be about $160.00 shipped.
Unfortunately I don't think you'll have many takers as most people left who actually do still mod the 3rd gen probably already have the Cobra/TTZ setup.
Glad to see you're still around!
I just helped pioneer a new brake set up for the 300Zx utilizing srt8 brembo calipers and 370 rotors.
This is a 19" wheel

300zx rotor vs 370z rotor

300zx caliper vs srt8 brembo

I"ll get some pics of my current set up soon.
IMO, there's too many brake kits out there already. mine, Jeff's, Stillen has a Baer caliper BBK, AP, Brembo, a bunch of Fastbrakes Wilwood kits and whatnot, and who knows how many others too.
And I've seen a kit a while back that used the VR4 rotors already. people went to the Cobra rotor instead, and I stuck with the Nissan stuff.
IMO, the guys that are wanting a 14" rotor setup will be willing to spend the money on a "real" brake kit with 2 pc rotors instead of the godawful heavy OEM discs. sure they look ok, but they weight like 1975lbs per rotor! My 13" rotors on my car are lighter than the OEM stuff, while the 12.6" Maxima rotor is 10lb heavier per corner than stock.
So you're adding 10lb of unsprung rotating weight and about 2-3lb of unsprung weight per corner. with anything that has a relocation bracket on it. Even more if you go with the iron Z32 calipers.
Going with a Brembo, Wilwood, AP, or Stoptech kit will be more expensive in the short run, but will pay off with much less weight and better handling than any of the kits using OEM rotors.
And I've seen a kit a while back that used the VR4 rotors already. people went to the Cobra rotor instead, and I stuck with the Nissan stuff.
IMO, the guys that are wanting a 14" rotor setup will be willing to spend the money on a "real" brake kit with 2 pc rotors instead of the godawful heavy OEM discs. sure they look ok, but they weight like 1975lbs per rotor! My 13" rotors on my car are lighter than the OEM stuff, while the 12.6" Maxima rotor is 10lb heavier per corner than stock.
So you're adding 10lb of unsprung rotating weight and about 2-3lb of unsprung weight per corner. with anything that has a relocation bracket on it. Even more if you go with the iron Z32 calipers.
Going with a Brembo, Wilwood, AP, or Stoptech kit will be more expensive in the short run, but will pay off with much less weight and better handling than any of the kits using OEM rotors.
IMO, there's too many brake kits out there already. mine, Jeff's, Stillen has a Baer caliper BBK, AP, Brembo, a bunch of Fastbrakes Wilwood kits and whatnot, and who knows how many others too.
And I've seen a kit a while back that used the VR4 rotors already. people went to the Cobra rotor instead, and I stuck with the Nissan stuff.
IMO, the guys that are wanting a 14" rotor setup will be willing to spend the money on a "real" brake kit with 2 pc rotors instead of the godawful heavy OEM discs. sure they look ok, but they weight like 1975lbs per rotor! My 13" rotors on my car are lighter than the OEM stuff, while the 12.6" Maxima rotor is 10lb heavier per corner than stock.
So you're adding 10lb of unsprung rotating weight and about 2-3lb of unsprung weight per corner. with anything that has a relocation bracket on it. Even more if you go with the iron Z32 calipers.
Going with a Brembo, Wilwood, AP, or Stoptech kit will be more expensive in the short run, but will pay off with much less weight and better handling than any of the kits using OEM rotors.
And I've seen a kit a while back that used the VR4 rotors already. people went to the Cobra rotor instead, and I stuck with the Nissan stuff.
IMO, the guys that are wanting a 14" rotor setup will be willing to spend the money on a "real" brake kit with 2 pc rotors instead of the godawful heavy OEM discs. sure they look ok, but they weight like 1975lbs per rotor! My 13" rotors on my car are lighter than the OEM stuff, while the 12.6" Maxima rotor is 10lb heavier per corner than stock.
So you're adding 10lb of unsprung rotating weight and about 2-3lb of unsprung weight per corner. with anything that has a relocation bracket on it. Even more if you go with the iron Z32 calipers.
Going with a Brembo, Wilwood, AP, or Stoptech kit will be more expensive in the short run, but will pay off with much less weight and better handling than any of the kits using OEM rotors.
What you stated makes sense but I figure if you want you could get quality 14" 2pc 370 rotors http://vr-speed.com/store/370z-sport...s-p-14252.html , source some SRT Brembo calipers (I was lucky enough to get two brand new sets off ebay for around $300 each) and buy a 3rd gen maxima to put the brakes on and still be less than the price of the more expensive bbk kits.
do those bolt right onto the knuckle, or do epeople need to make a bracket to make them fit?
what about brake lines? they're another $50-100/pair.
A Fastbrakes wilwood kit will work just as well if not better performance-wise, and brake pads are a TON cheaper for a wilwood shape vs. a Brembo shape. don't ask me why- it's the same material- but the brembo and OEM caliper fittments are always much more expensive for performance compounds. for street compounds, they're roughly the same ($100/set for Hawk HPS, vs. $250/set for DTC-60 on a 300ZX or $120/set for DTC-60 for a Superlite).
anyway, there's 10,000,000 ways to stop a car. some are cheap and easy, some are complicated and expensive. some are cheap an complicated. some you have to scour the depths of the parts bins in Japan.
time is money. engineering and machining time is even more money. how much is your time worth?
But yes, I agree.. there are ways to go faster (or stop better) for cheaper. but for the 20hrs you will spend making a bracket to bolt on your $1000 BBK, and another 20 hrs and $800 fiddling with bias bars and pad compounds to get the brake bias right, you could have mowed lawns in that time and earned the money to pay the difference for a Wilwood/Stoptech/AP/Brembo/whatever setup that you KNOW has the brake bias right.
what about brake lines? they're another $50-100/pair.
A Fastbrakes wilwood kit will work just as well if not better performance-wise, and brake pads are a TON cheaper for a wilwood shape vs. a Brembo shape. don't ask me why- it's the same material- but the brembo and OEM caliper fittments are always much more expensive for performance compounds. for street compounds, they're roughly the same ($100/set for Hawk HPS, vs. $250/set for DTC-60 on a 300ZX or $120/set for DTC-60 for a Superlite).
anyway, there's 10,000,000 ways to stop a car. some are cheap and easy, some are complicated and expensive. some are cheap an complicated. some you have to scour the depths of the parts bins in Japan.
time is money. engineering and machining time is even more money. how much is your time worth?
But yes, I agree.. there are ways to go faster (or stop better) for cheaper. but for the 20hrs you will spend making a bracket to bolt on your $1000 BBK, and another 20 hrs and $800 fiddling with bias bars and pad compounds to get the brake bias right, you could have mowed lawns in that time and earned the money to pay the difference for a Wilwood/Stoptech/AP/Brembo/whatever setup that you KNOW has the brake bias right.
do those bolt right onto the knuckle, or do epeople need to make a bracket to make them fit?
what about brake lines? they're another $50-100/pair.
A Fastbrakes wilwood kit will work just as well if not better performance-wise, and brake pads are a TON cheaper for a wilwood shape vs. a Brembo shape. don't ask me why- it's the same material- but the brembo and OEM caliper fittments are always much more expensive for performance compounds. for street compounds, they're roughly the same ($100/set for Hawk HPS, vs. $250/set for DTC-60 on a 300ZX or $120/set for DTC-60 for a Superlite).
anyway, there's 10,000,000 ways to stop a car. some are cheap and easy, some are complicated and expensive. some are cheap an complicated. some you have to scour the depths of the parts bins in Japan.
time is money. engineering and machining time is even more money. how much is your time worth?
But yes, I agree.. there are ways to go faster (or stop better) for cheaper. but for the 20hrs you will spend making a bracket to bolt on your $1000 BBK, and another 20 hrs and $800 fiddling with bias bars and pad compounds to get the brake bias right, you could have mowed lawns in that time and earned the money to pay the difference for a Wilwood/Stoptech/AP/Brembo/whatever setup that you KNOW has the brake bias right.

what about brake lines? they're another $50-100/pair.
A Fastbrakes wilwood kit will work just as well if not better performance-wise, and brake pads are a TON cheaper for a wilwood shape vs. a Brembo shape. don't ask me why- it's the same material- but the brembo and OEM caliper fittments are always much more expensive for performance compounds. for street compounds, they're roughly the same ($100/set for Hawk HPS, vs. $250/set for DTC-60 on a 300ZX or $120/set for DTC-60 for a Superlite).
anyway, there's 10,000,000 ways to stop a car. some are cheap and easy, some are complicated and expensive. some are cheap an complicated. some you have to scour the depths of the parts bins in Japan.
time is money. engineering and machining time is even more money. how much is your time worth?
But yes, I agree.. there are ways to go faster (or stop better) for cheaper. but for the 20hrs you will spend making a bracket to bolt on your $1000 BBK, and another 20 hrs and $800 fiddling with bias bars and pad compounds to get the brake bias right, you could have mowed lawns in that time and earned the money to pay the difference for a Wilwood/Stoptech/AP/Brembo/whatever setup that you KNOW has the brake bias right.

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