3rd Generation Maxima (1989-1994) Learn more about the 3rd Generation Maxima here.

Error 51

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 06:10 PM
  #1  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
Error 51

I got error code 51 from my 92 maxima gxe
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 07:19 PM
  #2  
Hectic's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,069
From: Space is the place?
It spits out that code when you try to install Lambo doors.

Last edited by Hectic; Apr 15, 2012 at 07:21 PM.
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 07:33 PM
  #3  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
No my check engine light came on for a couple seconds checked for codes and got 51 code
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 07:33 PM
  #4  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
I've had a miss for a little while now but always got 55 which is everything ok but now got 51
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 08:30 PM
  #5  
maximo018's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,260
From: Houston/Missouri City
Originally Posted by lkoroush
I've had a miss for a little while now but always got 55 which is everything ok but now got 51
Google Nissan OBD1 codes and see what a code 51 is.
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 08:33 PM
  #6  
T_Behr904's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 10,344
From: Jacksonville, FL
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 08:47 PM
  #7  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
Code 51 Injector circuit
What's that mean
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 09:16 PM
  #8  
maximo018's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,260
From: Houston/Missouri City
Originally Posted by lkoroush
Code 51 Injector circuit
What's that mean
Probably something up with either that sub harness to the 6 injectors under the manifold or somethings up with the harness for the front. Make sure that all the pigtails are connected.
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 09:48 PM
  #9  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
Maixmo018 what do you mean
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 09:58 PM
  #10  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
And when I put a screw driver on the injector I can hear them tick but I guess that doesn't mean there working
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 10:06 PM
  #11  
ChrisMan287's Avatar
Got Retrofit?
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,761
From: NY
Originally Posted by lkoroush
And when I put a screw driver on the injector I can hear them tick but I guess that doesn't mean there working
If you hear the tick then they are working.
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 10:13 PM
  #12  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
Yeah but I've unplugged the spark plug wires one by one and 2&6 don't make a difference
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 10:14 PM
  #13  
ShocknAwe's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,285
From: Atlanta, Ga
Its probably getting a different voltage then it should. You might have a short somewhere touching bare metal. Messed with the harness lately? like moving it around? Old harnesses are very brittle and some right angles had to be designed in so there are stress points where they break. Im betting that you have some bare wire somewhere giving you injectors a pulsating voltage of some kind. Does the code give a specific injector or cylinder #? If not then its part of the main harness. You'll just have to look at it and find whats not right.
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 10:17 PM
  #14  
ShocknAwe's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,285
From: Atlanta, Ga
Originally Posted by lkoroush
Yeah but I've unplugged the spark plug wires one by one and 2&6 don't make a difference
You unplugged and it doesnt make a difference? WHat does that even mean? The injector circuit has nothing to do with the spark plugs. Totally different wires although they probably run right next to each other over part of the main harness. If you don't even know what the injector circuit is, then I would highly advise you get somebody more experienced to deal with your electrical issues. If you don't know what you are doing you can short something and fry your entire ECU. If its just a bare wire though, wrap it in electrical tape and heat shrink and you should be good
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 10:31 PM
  #15  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
I have not messed with the harness and don't I have to take the intake manifold off to get a good look at the injector wires
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 10:32 PM
  #16  
RA121625's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 500
Originally Posted by ShocknAwe
You unplugged and it doesnt make a difference? WHat does that even mean? The injector circuit has nothing to do with the spark plugs. Totally different wires although they probably run right next to each other over part of the main harness. If you don't even know what the injector circuit is, then I would highly advise you get somebody more experienced to deal with your electrical issues. If you don't know what you are doing you can short something and fry your entire ECU. If its just a bare wire though, wrap it in electrical tape and heat shrink and you should be good
I think he means the idle didn't change when he unplugged those two coils, meaning that those two cylinders aren't firing properly. This may actually help diagnose his situation...
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:02 PM
  #17  
Laevateinn's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 348
From: Riverside, CA
code 51 should trigger a check engine light
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:08 PM
  #18  
ShocknAwe's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,285
From: Atlanta, Ga
If your code is for the injector circuit then you have a problem with it. Im not familiar with the 3rd gen harness
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:28 PM
  #19  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
My car don't have coil packs it has cap and rotor and right it didn't change the idle like when I unplugged the others
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 08:12 AM
  #20  
YearOfTheGus's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 146
Get yourself a multimeter. Cheap one from Walmart will do.
FSM has a diagnosis procedure. In mine it's page EF & EC 115, but yours may differ. It'll be in the "Troubleshooting Diagnosis" section. The older VG Maximas had different injector plugs, not sure if this will affect the procedure. Someone else might be able to chime in about that.
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 08:38 AM
  #21  
Greeny's Avatar
¯\(°_o)/¯
iTrader: (43)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 64,424
From: Tunasea
you likely have a dead injector....pull the wire harness connectors off each injector, then stick a ohm meter across the injector prongs....a good injector should read between 11-14 ohms...any reading under/over that will be the bad injector...
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 09:45 AM
  #22  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
Will this also cause a loss in power bad gas mileage and the way it hesitates from stop to accelerate
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 10:25 AM
  #23  
ShocknAwe's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,285
From: Atlanta, Ga
Im beginning to think your a troll. Your responses have nothing to do with the previous question or statement
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 10:57 AM
  #24  
Amerikaner83's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 11,386
From: WA
Originally Posted by lkoroush
Will this also cause a loss in power bad gas mileage and the way it hesitates from stop to accelerate
If an engine is not running properly (like what your problem is...with bad injectors or w/e)...do you think it would show bad mileage? YES. Would it hesitate during acceleration...YES. if your V6 is not running on all 6 evenly, it will idle like **** and will drive like **** as well...
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 11:09 AM
  #25  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
Actually this is really happening dude I've just had different responses from different people
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 12:15 PM
  #26  
YearOfTheGus's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 146
Do what Greeny said. You might have to pull the subharness for the injectors to test one of them because of the distributor or intake manifold being in the way. Pinout/picture for it is in the FSM.
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 01:05 PM
  #27  
ShocknAwe's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,285
From: Atlanta, Ga
You can test the front injectors fairly easily. Test its getting power and for continuity back to the ECU. THe resistance should be in spec for your year as well
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 03:57 PM
  #28  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
I can find FSM for my 92 maxi gxe does anyone have a PDF for it
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 04:01 PM
  #29  
Greeny's Avatar
¯\(°_o)/¯
iTrader: (43)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 64,424
From: Tunasea
post #11

click---> http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...mbo-doors.html
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 04:04 PM
  #30  
YearOfTheGus's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 146
Did the 1992s have 4-prong injectors, or was that only 1989-1991 models?
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 04:07 PM
  #31  
Greeny's Avatar
¯\(°_o)/¯
iTrader: (43)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 64,424
From: Tunasea
ALL of them were 2 prong injectors...where do you guys get your information..?
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 06:17 PM
  #32  
T_Behr904's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 10,344
From: Jacksonville, FL
Greeny knows what he's talking about, follow his advise. VG's are known for having injectors going dead.
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 07:58 PM
  #33  
chrome91's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,620
From: Edmonton, Alberta
yeah VG's are known for injector problems, and yes a dead injector will make it run like crap

3rd gens also rarely trigger a CEL
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 09:54 PM
  #34  
LvR's Avatar
LvR
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,205
From: Pretoria - South Africa
See and take action on your other thread too and keep the problem in one single thread

Last edited by LvR; Apr 16, 2012 at 09:57 PM.
Old Apr 17, 2012 | 01:01 AM
  #35  
Hectic's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,069
From: Space is the place?
Originally Posted by lkoroush
No my check engine light came on for a couple seconds checked for codes and got 51 code
I was just joking, the ECM doesn't know that you're turning your car into an exotic

Now, I probably shouldn't be giving you such a hard time about it. After all it was Lambroghini who used Nissan headlights on the Countach..

Anyway, if you have a miss coupled with the error code, then at least one injector is dead, or there is a bad connection causing the open circuit. By dead, I mean infinite resistance. It's rare for this to happen which is why it's rare for injector failure to throw a code. They are usually just out of spec or clogged. Technically extreme corrosion at the injector terminals could cause a miss and throw the code, but not very likely the problem. Find out which cylinder is missing and replace the injector.
Old Apr 23, 2012 | 03:48 AM
  #36  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
Well I did everything everyone told me to try and cylinder one had a small leak and cylinder 5 injector connection was bad it would just move around but it didn't fix the stall or hesitation when accelerating but the other night I was drive and the gas pedal was a little more stiff to push down and had a lot more power then the next day it went back the way it always is I was thinking about checking the TPS next
Old Apr 23, 2012 | 03:52 AM
  #37  
LvR's Avatar
LvR
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,205
From: Pretoria - South Africa
the gas pedal was a little more stiff to push down and had a lot more power then the next day it went back the way it always
Eh?
Old Apr 23, 2012 | 11:48 PM
  #38  
Laevateinn's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 348
From: Riverside, CA
Originally Posted by lkoroush
Well I did everything everyone told me to try and cylinder one had a small leak and cylinder 5 injector connection was bad it would just move around but it didn't fix the stall or hesitation when accelerating but the other night I was drive and the gas pedal was a little more stiff to push down and had a lot more power then the next day it went back the way it always is I was thinking about checking the TPS next
Accelerator pedal tension is nothing more than the cable's adjustment in our cars. I have a VE so I'm not sure if you have to remove the intake plenum in a VG to gain access to the rear injectors. As mentioned, it's better to test 'em with a multimeter for continuity and voltage to lock in the possible problem rather than trying to fix a good component.
Old Apr 24, 2012 | 08:27 AM
  #39  
lkoroush's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 69
I already did that and it still miss a little and the weird thing was yesterday was my inside fans stopped working after I turned my car off and the radiator fans only turn on when the defrost is on now
Old Apr 24, 2012 | 08:40 AM
  #40  
Amerikaner83's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 11,386
From: WA
if your car is OFF, the cabin fans aren't supposed to run.

Your radiator fans ARE supposed to run when the ac or defrost are on...that's normal.

If you turn the car on and let it sit for 15 mins idling, then it'll get hot enough to turn the radiator fans on automatically due to engine temp alone, with defrost OFF.



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:25 AM.