Can i boost with this?
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Can i boost with this?
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If I purchase this kit for my ve can I use my stock internal n injectors? Just want to have some kind of boost nothing serious. All I would need is a custom manifold , custom down pipe , and something to control fuel. ( what do you recommend for fuel control). Remember I'm not trying to boost crazy numbers just want to have boost. Since I got rid of my turbo 2 rx7 I really miss having turbo and since I like this ve I rather put money to boost this then buying another turbo2. It's cheaper this way.
If I purchase this kit for my ve can I use my stock internal n injectors? Just want to have some kind of boost nothing serious. All I would need is a custom manifold , custom down pipe , and something to control fuel. ( what do you recommend for fuel control). Remember I'm not trying to boost crazy numbers just want to have boost. Since I got rid of my turbo 2 rx7 I really miss having turbo and since I like this ve I rather put money to boost this then buying another turbo2. It's cheaper this way.
lolololol those Ebay kits are about the crappiest thing in the world. the turbo is Chinese and will grenade in a month and get mad shaft play. turbo setups are nothing to cheap out on, get proper high end parts or dont do it at all
If you're hell bent on getting a Chinese turbo, I would just buy it separately. You won't really be able to use any of that piping. You'll end up having to build your own or customize that piping so much that you might as well have just built your own from the beginning. Other than them selling you the BOV and intercooler and all that together you're not gaining anything by buying all that crap in a "kit".
Those turbos have a so-so track record. While many DO grenade themselves, many others don't. With some interwebz research you can find tons of satisfied Honda boys running those kits for several years and thousands and thousands of miles with no issue, and making good power too. Problem is in terms of potentially ruining your engine, are 50/50 odds acceptable to you? Honda kid blows up his d-series and he swaps a new one in within a couple hours for a couple hundred bucks. You blow your VE up and you don't have it that easy or cheap.
Those turbos have a so-so track record. While many DO grenade themselves, many others don't. With some interwebz research you can find tons of satisfied Honda boys running those kits for several years and thousands and thousands of miles with no issue, and making good power too. Problem is in terms of potentially ruining your engine, are 50/50 odds acceptable to you? Honda kid blows up his d-series and he swaps a new one in within a couple hours for a couple hundred bucks. You blow your VE up and you don't have it that easy or cheap.
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very true. ill start shopping for a named brand turbo then. but what size injectors do ve motors have? just wondering if its could handle turbo. Im probadly going to have to buy a walbro fuel pump as well. but tommorrow im going to central florida turbo shop and get a quote on some of the custom work.
i wish they sold turbo kits for ve
i wish they sold turbo kits for ve
remember youre boosting a engine that not many turbo, so custom shop work is going to be alot. boosting a engine that isnt factory turbo isnt as easy as it sounds, else half the people on here would have turbo 3rd gens. only cost effective way i can see is if you do it yourself and just pay to get custom parts made
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ive heard nothing but bad, and even moreso why people do choose to use those kits. i would get used Turbonetics or JimWolf parts before a new Chinese kit. if you do something of that caliber on a vehicle, do it right
remember youre boosting a engine that not many turbo, so custom shop work is going to be alot. boosting a engine that isnt factory turbo isnt as easy as it sounds, else half the people on here would have turbo 3rd gens. only cost effective way i can see is if you do it yourself and just pay to get custom parts made
you won't do any of this work that you say you'll do. and if you do end up doing it...it'll be a hot mess.<neg mode off>
but if you can prove me wrong and get this to work...you're the man.
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Ill be praying for you bro. That's really negative to say about someone you don't even know.
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Does anyone know what size inter cooler fits well?
Im going today to purchase a intercooler. For $125. Here the measurement.
For sale I've got 2 intercoolers. 1st is off of a 240sx with core dimensions (24x12x3). 2nd is universal with core dimensions (26x10x3.5). Both have 3" inlets and can be fitted to a wide array of applications.
Im going today to purchase a intercooler. For $125. Here the measurement.
For sale I've got 2 intercoolers. 1st is off of a 240sx with core dimensions (24x12x3). 2nd is universal with core dimensions (26x10x3.5). Both have 3" inlets and can be fitted to a wide array of applications.
Still say better off selling the VE to someone who doesn't want boost, buy VG5, deal with lack of LSD, add z31 turbo parts, then you only need a custom downpipe, use some Z32TT injectors and nistune ECU for fuel management, and call it a day. VG is 9:1, VE is 10:1, so you can spend less time biting your nails and more time in boost.
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Still say better off selling the VE to someone who doesn't want boost, buy VG5, deal with lack of LSD, add z31 turbo parts, then you only need a custom downpipe, use some Z32TT injectors and nistune ECU for fuel management, and call it a day. VG is 9:1, VE is 10:1, so you can spend less time biting your nails and more time in boost.
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Still say better off selling the VE to someone who doesn't want boost, buy VG5, deal with lack of LSD, add z31 turbo parts, then you only need a custom downpipe, use some Z32TT injectors and nistune ECU for fuel management, and call it a day. VG is 9:1, VE is 10:1, so you can spend less time biting your nails and more time in boost.
I have a VG engine w/ a VE 5spd trans on my car currently.
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I notice that its 10x easier to turbo a vg then a ve
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stock T3 z31 is 7.8CR and 6.7PSI without an intercooler. You figure the same would be "as safe" at 10CR with an intercooler?
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I just painted and done lots of maintenance on my car so I'm keeping my car but I'm glad it's possible. I can get a vg motor for $250 at my local junkyard. N ecu and harness. Is that all I need. I'm looking to have this done in a month or two the lastest. Is there a write up on this swap?
I notice that its 10x easier to turbo a vg then a ve
I notice that its 10x easier to turbo a vg then a ve
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Lol but doing the math it sound cheaper to do the swap. I'm still going to the shop this weekend to see how much for a custom turbo kit for ve motor. It's true about wanting more boost lol
i've been here on this forum for over 10 years. if i had a dollar for every person that came on and said they will put a turbo on their car w/o knowing how to even start it i can retire.
what you're walking into is a very uncharted territory.
what does that mean? that means this "project" will cost you A LOT of money to do it right. a lot...as in perhaps 2x to maybe even 3-4x the current value of your car. we don't drive honda...there's no turbo kit available. there's barely any suspension struts available for our cars.
for VG motors there are a lot more options and even with that there's a very small number of cars that are actually turboed...successfully and done right. (the guy with the turbo in the pass seat doesn't count)
you're right...i don't know you...but from experience i can pretty much predict what will happen.
if you wanted a faster car or a car turbo-ed from factory...sell the 3rd gen and spend the money that you would have on the turbo set up and get a car that's turbo-ed from the factory.
but yeah VG's are much more plentiful, and were turbocharged from the factory in a few applications (primarily VG30ET z31 in the USDM but also some variations in JDM). Oil feed is already there, compression ratio is already safer, fixup parts (oil pump, water pump, etc) are also more common. Not necessarily stronger or "higher performance" parts, but OE parts selection that won't leave you stranded for a week while you have to wait for a VE part to be shipped 1000 miles from a "hub warehouse" to reach you vs walking behind the counter and grabbing the VG equivalent.
Nothing against the VE, but imo it's better left to those who want their car to be NA. Tho a few guys (4signs and brad92se's names come to mind) have done turbo VE... but they had the budget to back up their ambitions. That is, they probably didn't have a budget. One or both of them might have even used different pistons (q45?) to achieve a lower compression ratio with their VE for m0ar boost.
Nothing against the VE, but imo it's better left to those who want their car to be NA. Tho a few guys (4signs and brad92se's names come to mind) have done turbo VE... but they had the budget to back up their ambitions. That is, they probably didn't have a budget. One or both of them might have even used different pistons (q45?) to achieve a lower compression ratio with their VE for m0ar boost.
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Still say better off selling the VE to someone who doesn't want boost, buy VG5, deal with lack of LSD, add z31 turbo parts, then you only need a custom downpipe, use some Z32TT injectors and nistune ECU for fuel management, and call it a day. VG is 9:1, VE is 10:1, so you can spend less time biting your nails and more time in boost.
buy faster car.
done.
yea but... who actually stays at low boost forever? <annoying_girl>you want more! you want more! like, you really like it; you want more!</annoying_girl>
stock T3 z31 is 7.8CR and 6.7PSI without an intercooler. You figure the same would be "as safe" at 10CR with an intercooler?
stock T3 z31 is 7.8CR and 6.7PSI without an intercooler. You figure the same would be "as safe" at 10CR with an intercooler?
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thanks...i appreciate the prayers.
i've been here on this forum for over 10 years. if i had a dollar for every person that came on and said they will put a turbo on their car w/o knowing how to even start it i can retire.
what you're walking into is a very uncharted territory.
what does that mean? that means this "project" will cost you A LOT of money to do it right. a lot...as in perhaps 2x to maybe even 3-4x the current value of your car. we don't drive honda...there's no turbo kit available. there's barely any suspension struts available for our cars.
for VG motors there are a lot more options and even with that there's a very small number of cars that are actually turboed...successfully and done right. (the guy with the turbo in the pass seat doesn't count)
you're right...i don't know you...but from experience i can pretty much predict what will happen.
if you wanted a faster car or a car turbo-ed from factory...sell the 3rd gen and spend the money that you would have on the turbo set up and get a car that's turbo-ed from the factory.