I was just checking out the new 350Z - what a thing of beauty. I have always like the Z cars and I'm glad to see them coming back...but I was thinking you know one of the things I love about my max is the "sleeper" factor. I mean, in a car like that 350Z, people expect you to be fast, but you can surprise alot of people in a maxima - especially one that needs some body work & paint like mine

never mind that I can't afford new wheels for my max, much less a new 350Z

 

I don't think VG max and sleeper factor belong in the same sentence

 

I respectfully disagree. The maxima is a sleeper...literally. Most people are surprised by how slow mine is.

 

 

they're not...

look, there's alot of people who don't expect a 4-dr *anything* to be fast. I think even a stock vg would surprise alot of people. Besides, I'm not necessarily referring to my car in it's present state - I'm talking about *potential* which both vg's and ve's have plenty of.

 

 

 

VG. GXE. You have the worst of any of the 3rd gen maxima's. At least you don't have the worse (91 GXE). Your car may have some low end power, but have you ever noticed that it has almost no pull anywhere about 60. It still moves pretty quick, but not like it does low end. Don't even try. A 5spd VG would have some trouble keepin up. Your GXE will just be a dot in his rear-view mirror.

Do what I do, take out civics, accords (not the Vtec ones), V6 mustangs, V6 cameroes (all of them have a limiter at 110 or somethin, so you can race even the good ones and win in the long run), and the such. Highschoolers are easy to mess with. Rev at em and laugh in their face when you hand them their *** on a silver platter. It's fun. Provides many hours of enjoyment.

 

don't be scared of them either, most people don't even know how to utilize it....

 

Personally, I'm scared of them. I drive around possibly the worse maxima ever built. I only take on stuff I know I can beat. I took on an old 300Z once. I was winning too. I had to turn left, so he zipped on by when I slowed down, though. I took on a civic Si with Vtec once. I didn't realize it until we were a couple seconds into it. All of a sudden he just started pullin ahead of me. And with a 4cyl! I hate havin an auto.

 

thats probably the only Civic to fear...but the EX is POS even with the Vtec. but yeah the Si is pretty impressive for a 160hp 4cyl.!

 

I take on any civic, any year, other than the new Si's. vtec EX's. Ha. No prob. The second I see the Si emblem on em, I back off. I've pulled away from an EX pretty easily. Don't know if it was vtec or not.

 

if I'm correct all the mid 90's EXs have Vtec, but being that they only have 127 or so HP it doesn't really prove advantageous for them!

 

I'm not a big civic fan, so I don't know what comes with what. All I know is the Si has vtec and kicks my ***. I'd actually get one cause the insurance is dirt-cheap and the car has a huge aftermarket, but too many people mod them. I'd just blend in.

 

Oh yeah, don't forget the Integras. Thos are very fast little 4cyl's! It ****es me off that cars like that can be so fast, when ours could have been so much faster if they did it right at the factory. I mean, for Maximas to really live up to the 4DSC, they should have given the 3rd gen GXE's 200hp dohc and the SE 230hp dohc and maybe 3.2L or something. Though, still, my GXE has embarrased quite a few ricers so, its nothing to laugh at unless you have a real sports car.

Hey Gamezilla, do you know how fast those v6 Camaros and mustangs are? I was just curious because I thought the v6 mustangs did 0-60 in about 9sec but the Camaros are a little quicker. All I know is I beat one down the highway by about 200ft! I couldn't even believe how easily I beat him. I was expecting to get beatdown and immediately I started pulling away from him. It was funny too because he had all these racing stickers and stuff all over his car but I think it must have been bone stock.

BTW, do you guys know if the SI Civics are supposed to have an actual badge or just a sticker? I know a guy that has a 2000 SI, or so he says, but it just has a sticker on the trunk lid. I don't know but that looks a little fake to me. This guy had the cajones to tell me that he beat a brand new transam. His car only has the AEM CAI (waste of $200+!) and he was under the impression that he gained 20hp at the wheels! This guy is such an idiot that I am waiting to beat him down once I get all my mods done (every bolt on + heads, cams, etc). Then, just to rub it in, I'm going to say I just have the intake and muffler, even though I'll have every bolt on and about 300hp!

 

well consider back in the late 80's and early 90's for a 4dr sedan to have 160hp and do a mid/high 16 in the 1/4th is pretty good!
and some of the Civic Si's do have that little sticker badge(like a friend of mines) and its genuine...not sure why but some came with the badge instead....

 

Oh yeah, 160hp was definitely good back then but, it still leaves the VG's a little power anemic.

 

The Civic SI's have sticker badges. They are not actual emblems. Also, about Integras... The non-vtec Integras you can beat. The VTEC Integras beware.. (those are the GS-R's & Type-R's). Also beware of Prelude VTEC. I think the VG should have had DOHC 24v and not SOHC 12v. Us VG's need the top end and we lose it because of the SOHC 12v design.

 

I agree, we really need 24v. Though, any of the older Hondas, say around early 90's SUCK!!! I was looking at 0-60 times for VTEC Preludes and Integras, Civics, SI's etc and they were all around 8.5-10sec! That's pretty cheap of Honda to use a sticker instead of a badge. Man, I thank God every day that I never became one of the Honda crowd.

 

Im seeing all you guys say the VG has a bad High End and a better low End. Mine is completly the other way around. I have to struggle to keep up with lots of cars from the line. But on the Highway going about 65+ when someone pulls up beside me. I can just push the gas and get ahead really really easy. I have done this with two 190 HP VQ's, 24V Dodge Intrpid, Civic Si and Integra GSR. These are all cars that beat me pretty easy from the line. Even at +100 speeds the car still accelerates pretty fast. My best friend who has a 300ZXTT even commented on that, and how at 105-110 I was only running about 3000 RPM.

 

Same here. I'm hoping to improve the low end with a lightened udp and a cai.

 

Well, my car doesn't have bad highend but, it isn't great highend compared to some other cars. Though, for 160hp, VG's are pretty fast. I think mine is fastest from a low-end rolling start though (starting 5-30mph).

 

Mmmm the humble VG... can barely take a V6 stang... or anything with VTEC.

I kill stang GTs (anything up to '99), and every prelude and integra that tries to race me. took out a '00 'lude VTEC last night with a trunk load of car parts and a passenger.
blah blah blah brag brag brag. buy a VE or VQ if you want a fast maxima. if you want a reliable one, wtick witht he VG.

 

"Someones got ***** envy"..........hehehehehe

 

I have to agree with the reliable part. My car ****es me off being so slow. However, I could be driving an old honda so it could be worse. My car meets my needs right now: Poor college kid on the GI Bill with no extra dough. I will eventually have a faster car; It is just delayed gratfication.

 

i call bull****. A 300ZX TT commented on how fast your car accelerates from 105-110?? Are you kidding me? Have you ever drove a 300ZX TT from 70+mph?? That thing is a MONSTER going to 140+mph!!!

 

Have you ever driven a 92' Honda from 70+. He didn't say it was quicker than his car or anything like that just that it was pretty quick.. for a 10 year old Naturally Aspirated Sedan....
and yes i have driven a 300ZXTT, my best friend has one. I really have no reason to lie... Im not trying to be cool and say my car is fast or anything. I was just saying.

 

Give me some dyno sheets of your max and prove to me that your max has high-end compared to an Integra GS-R or Civic SI or any DOHC VTEC motor in the late 90's Honda's. I'll bet you they got a stronger HP curve in the top-end compared to your VG which you claim has a lot of high-end and not alot of low-end.

 

Depends what kind of Honda you are refering to.

 

Depends what kind of Honda you are refering to. I can tell you the 94+ GS-R's, 93+ Prelude VTEC, and newer Civic SI's will rip you a new ******* from 70+mph (assuming they are all 5-spd) if your racing them with a VG auto or VG 5-spd. Then the Honda's start to lose power after 100+mph and that's were the VG will have a come-back.

 

Well, at least we can all agree on one thing. Except for a select few Honda's, the VG's and VE's all have a crap load of torque more than most of them do. Not all but, most of them suck in the torque area. I'm not sure on new Preludes though. Don't they have a good amount of torque.

Hey Matt93se, what v6 stangs are you referring to? I remember seeing 0-60 times for a '95 v6 stang and it was like 9.9 sec! God, my brother's '93 Blazer 4.3L Vortech could SMOKE that! Don't the stangs weigh about 3800lbs? They could definitely benefit from a little lightening.

 

Yes. I agree much more torque all the time. I think.

 

Alrighty Senor SkyMax... you da pimp, you gotta me. I was lying, sorry to all that believed me. I don't even own a Maxima I was just frontin.
But when I do get a Maxima, I will get some dyno charts, and just maybe there will be an 80/30 Chance that mine will be a VG with bad low end and better high end. Then I will race the cars I said I raced and Video Tape it, then pull them over, and pay for them to get dynoed, dyno my car, make a power point presentation displaying the inoformation in an easy to read proffesional format and draw up a conclusion paragraph.

Now. you may say, Whoa! thats a little extreme there dont you think Mr. Mateo92GXE. Indeed I agree, therefore... Im just gone be quiet now. Before I get my name on the board.

Holla back youngin.

 

Just thought I should mention something funny but unrelated to the topic. My brother almost forked over the money and was going to put a Vortech supercharger, w/ blower on his Blazer! Can you imagine that, a Blazer with a blower sticking out of the hood. I got this funny mental pic of that and couldn't get over it.