unsprung

I'm considering purchasing an SE gauge cluster. I'm just wondering what would happen to the odometer with this used cluster. I believe the replacement will have about 120K on it while mine is only at about 108K. Does the car have any method to reset the odometer to the proper reading for the vehicle it is installed in? Also, since I drive a 92 GXE, my max speed is supposedly 125MPH. Is it possible for me to install a 92+ SE cluster, one that will go up to 145MPH?

Thanks for any help in advance.

sxwk12

Don't quote me on this, but I don't think that will work. I fyou did that then at the point where you are supposedly going 70mph (on the 125 guage), will probably read something like 90mph (on the 145 guage). The needle is, or should be, calibrated with the guage.

About the milage: you will notice once you get into your cluster, you can change it to whatever you want it to read. Change it back to 000000. You will be the only person in the world with a 1992 automobile of any kind with NO MILES on it.

unsprung

Hmm... the whole gauge calibration sounds logical. About changing the mileage on the cluster, is it really that simple to change the mileage? I mean, I personally just want to keep an accurate account of my mileage, no reason for me to roll it back since I don't plan on selling this car. When the time comes, I will probably part it out rather than go through the hassle of selling it. But aside from that, is it really that easy to change the odometer?

sxwk12

I didn't try to roll it back but it is exposed. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to take a pencil or something and just roll it back.

noleafclover

i'm pretty sure you could just roll it back, but not possitive, and i don't really have any idea about the speedo part, but it would possible work right, if not, oh well, mine's off too, i just know how much it's off by, so i know what speed to go. but it's illegal to change the odo. for illegal purposes, i'm pretty sure it's perfectly legal to change it to anything if you aren't gonna lie about it, especially if you change it to what your engine's really at. i know i once saw a car that had an engine put into it somewhere in the 100K's, that only had like 30K on it, and the ad said it had all the paperwork to show the acurate mileage on the current engine, so maybe you could get it rolled back "professionally" or something, or maybe you'd just have to take pics. i dono really...

Mwb90SE

You have to take the motor off of the odometer, I have an SE cluster (91SE) for sale and have discovered how change the mileage to be accurate for someone else's vehicle. Once the motor is off it will just roll in either direction.

unsprung

I've found some of my answers. Seems like some people have taken the odometer off the replacement gauge cluster and replaced that with the original one. However, I haven't actually seen a reply about how it worked out. Any one?

Also, I've read that some of the SE gauges don't have an O/D light... is this something I should be worried about? I can obviously tell if O/D is on/off by the switch itself, but is it beneficial for me to get some kind of led or something to replace it?

Thanks again.

«§»Craig B«§»

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I've heard of several people just switching the odometers like you mentioned with no problems

as for O/D off light, the gauges that dont have it are those from 5spds
shouldn't cause any problem if you pay attention to the switch

N34JZ

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and inspection have the millage on them. so if your odom. says 30k and you stickers say 100k as of lets say june 2001 and its june 2002 someones gonna know somethings up

DanNY

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so drive 50K a yr but roll back only 40K every yr

MadMaxBrent

Changing clusters will not affect the accuracy unless the accuracy of the new gauge is out already. Gauges can be adjusted easily by a instrumentation specialist as they are driven via a micro on the speedo unit. (trimpot adjusment)

Brent.

mtcookson

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I just swapped the guage cluster from a gxe to an se (i put carbon fiber guages on it then bought the se) and i switched the odometer between the two so they have the correct mileage. Works fine. You do have to pull the needles off of the gas and temp guage and the little pin needs to be pulled out (be very very very very careful with the pin, it will fly if you aren't careful when popping it out) If you want to know how to switch them all over ask me because i know exactly how to do it.

Shadow1198

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Well, I swapped a '94 SE gauge cluster into my '91 GXE and it works 100% perfect. I think you can switch any 3rd gen gauges into any other 3rd gen. I mean, I KNOW my speedometer and everything else is completely accurate (I've had it for at least 7 months to 1yr) so I don't see why you'd need to modify anything. Haha, I need to get an ECU so I can see how fast I can get my GXE up to now. I bet I could get up to 160mph if the 145mph speedo wasn't holding me back! BTW, those white faced SE gauges look great! They're a nice addition to any GXE. The only thing that ****ed me off is that, when I swapped them in, it was my first time really disassembling the gauge area. I laugh when I think of it now because I spent about 2hrs taking off EVERYTHING on the dash, since I didn't know some of those face-plates just snap on! After I realized what I had to do, it only took me about 10min to actually swap the gauges! I'm sure all the guys that have swapped their gauges have done this before.

mtcookson

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hahahaha you bet!!!! i was worse though. I was putting in those inport intelligence guages and their instrustions kind of sucked so my car ws out for 3 days!! That was pathetic. Just the other day i took out the guage cluster in my se in about 5 minutes or less.

crazy4maxima

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Ok here is the reason why i bumped this thread up... Well i just got an se gauge that reads 125 mph for my gxe 91 3rd gen. Well i was woundering about installation... Does anyone have a write up on how to install on.. from what screws to takes the dash apart and how to transfere the odometer from the gxe (my real miles ) to the se gauges (which has 44,0000 reading write now)...

Any help apperciated..

Also how long does it take to do the job, from taking the dash appart to taking the gauges out to putting everything back together,..


ANY ONE IN THE NYC AREA CAN HELP ME WITH THE TRANSPLANT AND INSTALLATION?

«§»Craig B«§»

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come on crazy, you've been here long enough to know to search

check my page under the clock fix, it'll give you pics and how-to to take everything off up to the guage cluster, from there it's just 4 obvious screws and three connectors holding it in

I've never done the odometer thing but I've heard it's really straightforward

good luck

crazy4maxima

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yes i have been here for a while... that is how i found this thread...so i bumped it up... Thanks for the answer i figued it would be the same instructions in taking the clock out... but i thought that it would be more too it.. any hint on how long this processtake ?

wtng

i can disassemble my dash in like 10 - 15mins no joke now that i know where all the screws are

CMD89

I have researched many threads concerning the odometer replacement. I understand that the odometer can be switched from one instrument cluster to another. However does anyone have any instructions on how to actually switch the odometers. I know how to get the cluster out and everything, its just the actual switch of the odometers.
Thanks
Chris

crazy4maxima

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ok.. so what do you want to do.. keep the odometer? well pm me if you have any questions.. i will give pics and walk you through the steps.

CMD89

crazy4maxima

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crazy4maxima

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did you sell your 3rd gen.. please dont tell me its so

JDwyer2821

Yes

crazy4maxima

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CMD89

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shavedmax

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ive taken mine out like 4 times already, the last one to change the odometer. the odometer bolts off from the back , like 4 screws, but you have to also take out the faces and the glass cover. unplug the odo and swap. whateever you do just dont pull the needles off the gauges as they may not go back in and then ure screwed. it may be possible to use the pre 92 se gauges in youres, this way you still have the 125 reading. dont mess with the odometer for 2 reasons. first and foremost, duhits illegal , not that we would care, if youre trying to change it to what its supposed to read, but you have to actually pry it open and then roll back the numbers, then put it back in. it may or may not read accurately, line up properly, and lets not forget that some numbers will be nice and clean and some wont. how do i know? my friend did it and after rersetting the trip odo and measuring them together, it was reading 1/4 less miles than the trip(ie 1000 miles on trip, 750 on odo). think that will screw up your oil change intervals?, gas mileage? etc?. just do the swap and ull be ok

matt92gxe

just wanted to clarify something. could i put any 3rd gen gauge cluster in my car and it work? like if i put the 145mph in my 125mph, would it still read accurately? or, would i have to get a cluster from a pre 92 se so that it will be 125mph to read properly? seems like a nice mod. if i could get my hands on a gauge cluster and switch out odometers, it would be worth it.

shavedmax

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seems to be unanimous that the 145 reads difererently than the 125. i dont think its been tested, but probably correct. the diferance shouldnt be too much, but for accuracy youre better off with the pre 92, just swap out youre odo. if you dont car and just want it to look good use any