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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 02:05 PM
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**a bunch of tough questions. . . **

sorry for the tough questions, but:

what's the bore on a VE and VG? are they the same?

What's the stock injector rated at?

who makes thicker head gaskets? i heard hks?

will VGTT manifolds BOLT up to a VE. i know one is round, and one isn't. but will they physically bolt up?

what's the stock VE fuel pump rated at?

What Z pump does everyoen upgrade to?

Are there ANY pistons made for the VE? (need to lower compression)

i started buying turbo stuff today basically all i got was 2 stock turbos off a 94 300Z. they have less than 30k miles on em. i got a decent price. anyway, thanks for the help guys.
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I'm one of those "attitude" moderators according to some new forums I've seen so I can't really be of much help. :sad:
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Re: **a bunch of tough questions. . . **

dude before you start buying all this why not invest in a z32 FSM or a Z32 microfiche......trust me it will help you figure a lot of stuff out. I have the Z31 microfiche and FSM its very helpful in trying to figure together all the factors of a turbo swap......not that I'm doing anything to my car......


Originally posted by flyry110
sorry for the tough questions, but:

what's the bore on a VE and VG? are they the same?

What's the stock injector rated at?

who makes thicker head gaskets? i heard hks?

will VGTT manifolds BOLT up to a VE. i know one is round, and one isn't. but will they physically bolt up?

what's the stock VE fuel pump rated at?

What Z pump does everyoen upgrade to?

Are there ANY pistons made for the VE? (need to lower compression)

i started buying turbo stuff today basically all i got was 2 stock turbos off a 94 300Z. they have less than 30k miles on em. i got a decent price. anyway, thanks for the help guys.
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 02:17 PM
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Re: **a bunch of tough questions. . . **

Originally posted by flyry110
sorry for the tough questions, but:

what's the bore on a VE and VG? are they the same?
read your FSM. if you don't have one, you will need to buy one before you go anywhere with this project.

What's the stock injector rated at?
see above. they're WAY too small anyway.

who makes thicker head gaskets? i heard hks?
dunno.

will VGTT manifolds BOLT up to a VE. i know one is round, and one isn't. but will they physically bolt up?

no chance.

what's the stock VE fuel pump rated at?
too low.

What Z pump does everyoen upgrade to?
Z32 period. either will be enough for what you need. for the price, get a walbro or a Q45 pump. cheaper than Z pump and same/comparable flow.

Are there ANY pistons made for the VE? (need to lower compression)

hunt around and find out.

i started buying turbo stuff today basically all i got was 2 stock turbos off a 94 300Z. they have less than 30k miles on em. i got a decent price. anyway, thanks for the help guys.
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Re: Re: **a bunch of tough questions. . . **

Originally posted by DA-MAX
not that I'm doing anything to my car......


Old Feb 20, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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Re: Re: Re: **a bunch of tough questions. . . **

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well I just had to face the facts....intake and Y just make my car sound fast......I need real speed!
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I'm one of those "attitude" moderators according to some new forums I've seen so I can't really be of much help. :sad:
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 04:21 PM
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Heh. Hey I'm ****ed! How come you don't wanna be me!?! huh?? haha!

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Heh. Hey I'm ****ed! How come you don't wanna be me!?! huh?? haha!

Jeff...you're my hero...mwahahahahahaha

are you done yet btw?
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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Check your privates.

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Jeff...you're my hero...mwahahahahahaha

are you done yet btw?
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
Check your privates.

ummm...they're there...what you trying to say?
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 04:36 PM
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I'm trying to say is I don't wanna see your miniChris hanging out of your running shorts. Got it?? lol

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ummm...they're there...what you trying to say?
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
I'm trying to say is I don't wanna see your miniChris hanging out of your running shorts. Got it?? lol



got it...back at ya
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 07:59 PM
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thanks anyone that helped. . . . so much for trying for easy answers. . .
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by flyry110
thanks anyone that helped. . . . so much for trying for easy answers. . .
no offense, but dont jsut expect everyone to tell you exactly how and what to do for a project that you're taking on that requires a decent amount of knowledge to complete

I suggest getting a FSM like Matt said. Not many people are gonna wanna look through theirs to try to find you each piece of info as needed. I'm sure it'll help you out tons in the project

try searching for this info, I know I had a conversation with Nismo87 a while back that was posted on here with lots of specs comparing VE/VG/VGT numbers from FSMs that might be helpful (or maybe not)

good luck with it, VE POWER
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by «§»Craig B«§»
I suggest getting a FSM like Matt said.
hey, hey I said that! (j/k)

but seriously since you seem to be leaning towards pulling parts from a Z32, the microfiche will be your new best friend!!! Trust me.....Check tt.net, maybe they have a "free" one like Z31.com does, if not you can buy it from Courtesy-->

http://www.courtesyparts.com/publications/300ZX.html
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 09:17 PM
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an old, but very applicable statement...

"give a man a fish, he will eat for a day. TEACH a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime."


well, I threw you one fish, and I gave you a good start on how to find some of the rest for yourself. that's more than was given to me when I started this turbo project.
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by DA-MAX


hey, hey I said that! (j/k)

oops, sorry about that

but like DA-MAX and Matt said, get a FSM

it'll definitely be worth it in the long run
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by «§»Craig B«§»

try searching for this info, I know I had a conversation with Nismo87 a while back that was posted on here with lots of specs comparing VE/VG/VGT numbers from FSMs that might be helpful (or maybe not)

good luck with it, VE POWER
Man I remember all of that. Speaking of specs, did you guys know that the VG30E's share the same intake/exhaust valve timing (minus the overlap when the VTC's work) as the VE. This means that you can get ISKY to regrind the cams for $160 (it might actually be $320 since there are 4 cams). The install is easier than the VG is because the heads don't need to be pulled. However I'm sure getting those cam sprockets off the camshafts will be a chore. Based on VG30 dyno's the 260 grind (NISMO euro spec) should shift the power peak 200-300rpm higher and reduce the power loss after 6000rpm by 3-9hp. The 270 grind will lose about 8-14hp below 4200rpm (again based on VG30E dynos with no tuning) but gain an average of 11-20hp from 4200-6700rpm. For you hardcore turbo VE guys ISKY can make turbo cams also .
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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nice brainstorming, Nismo.

I'll have to remember that if I ever decide to tear into the engine.. it'll certianly be worth a few hundred bucks if I can get some cams that like turbos.
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Originally posted by Matt93SE
an old, but very applicable statement...

"give a man a fish, he will eat for a day. TEACH a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime."


well, I threw you one fish, and I gave you a good start on how to find some of the rest for yourself. that's more than was given to me when I started this turbo project.
haha i remember that.. poster on the wall in my physicis class back in High school
Old Mar 4, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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ok, so will the z32 manifolds bolt up to my vg?? im assuming yes?
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will 1972 Ford Pinto manifolds fit???
Old Mar 4, 2002 | 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by Nismo87SE

Man I remember all of that. Speaking of specs, did you guys know that the VG30E's share the same intake/exhaust valve timing (minus the overlap when the VTC's work) as the VE. This means that you can get ISKY to regrind the cams for $160 (it might actually be $320 since there are 4 cams). The install is easier than the VG is because the heads don't need to be pulled. However I'm sure getting those cam sprockets off the camshafts will be a chore. Based on VG30 dyno's the 260 grind (NISMO euro spec) should shift the power peak 200-300rpm higher and reduce the power loss after 6000rpm by 3-9hp. The 270 grind will lose about 8-14hp below 4200rpm (again based on VG30E dynos with no tuning) but gain an average of 11-20hp from 4200-6700rpm. For you hardcore turbo VE guys ISKY can make turbo cams also .
how would these 260 and 270 grinds affect the idle?
also, you mentioned how the VTC sprocket removal could be a problem, well most of us VE guys have bad VTC, so why not take this opportunity to install new VTC??
also, could VTC be installed on both cams? if so, would it be worth it.
another question: how much should i expect to pay for rebuilt VE heads w/either 260 or 270 isky grinds?
nismo87se, if you would, please IM me, i've got lots of questions. i'm basically looking for feasability, i can figure out specifics (but any help is greatly appreciated) my AIM SN is: beakmoney
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Originally posted by Matt93SE
"give a man a fish, he will eat for a day. TEACH a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime."
i believe he's asking to be taught here...
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
will 1972 Ford Pinto manifolds fit???
mommy!!! they're making fun of me!!!

simple yes/no????? same block...manifolds should fit right?
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i believe he's asking to be taught here...
No, he's asking for a fish. if he wanted to learn, he'd ask for a place go where he could find the information himself. (i.e. service manual or website where this stuff is listed).

In this case, he's simply saying: "You do the house of work involved in looking up the numbers. all I want are the answers."

to look up all those specs he's asking for would take the bookshelf of a mechanic or nissan parts dealer and hours of research.
there are only a couple people on the baord with that much information, and they're not going to spend all day looking up that info for just anybody.
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Originally posted by Dummy
mommy!!! they're making fun of me!!!

simple yes/no????? same block...manifolds should fit right?
do a search, it's been answered at least a dozen times in the last two months.
Old Mar 4, 2002 | 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by MaDMaX024

how would these 260 and 270 grinds affect the idle?
also, you mentioned how the VTC sprocket removal could be a problem, well most of us VE guys have bad VTC, so why not take this opportunity to install new VTC??
also, could VTC be installed on both cams? if so, would it be worth it.
another question: how much should i expect to pay for rebuilt VE heads w/either 260 or 270 isky grinds?
nismo87se, if you would, please IM me, i've got lots of questions. i'm basically looking for feasability, i can figure out specifics (but any help is greatly appreciated) my AIM SN is: beakmoney
The ISKY 260 grind or "EURO" won't affect the idle much. It might have a very slight lope but, you can reset the base timing. My car seemed to idle fine with the euro cams. If you were able to get an extra set of heads you could kill 2 birds with one stone. For one there wouldn't be any extra downtime, VTC replacement is 100x easier, you can send the cams off to get reground, then have the heads worked. Honestly this type of work would run in the $1500-2000. First thing is to find an extra set of heads, I located a couple from www.car-part.com. Then the VTC's are around $450 each, plus regrinding the cams is probably going to be around $300 or so, figure new exhaust/intake manifold studs, headwork can run around $300-1000 depending on how hardcore your wallet is. Lets not forget about measuring the tolerances, I believe the VE has a direct acting valvetrain, so if the cams aren't in the right hieght according to the FSM. You will need to order the proper size shims and you will need new lifters too. Given the head replacement I'd recommend replacing the timing chain, tensioner and water pump. This will allow you to "finance" this big repair so it won't hit you as hard.
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Originally posted by Matt93SE


do a search, it's been answered at least a dozen times in the last two months.
i did a search!! thats how i came up with this!! *sigh* ill search again.
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ok, i just searched for three days in a row...for about an hour a day..can someone just tell me the name of a thread it might have been answeres in?! i am pretty sure, i just want to be positive...show me where the fish is..so i can attempt to beat it to death..
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ok, i just searched for three days in a row...for about an hour a day..can someone just tell me the name of a thread it might have been answeres in?! i am pretty sure, i just want to be positive...show me where the fish is..so i can attempt to beat it to death..

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....light=manifold

TWO MINUTES!!! TWO FUDGING MINUTES!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Dummy
ok, i just searched for three days in a row...for about an hour a day..can someone just tell me the name of a thread it might have been answeres in?! i am pretty sure, i just want to be positive...show me where the fish is..so i can attempt to beat it to death..
man dude, if you cant search the internet.. dont even think about turbo charging your max..

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread...hlight=manifold <-- as for that. .. how many times do we have to say the same things over and over
Old Mar 6, 2002 | 11:09 PM
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Hey flyry, Z32 manifolds are oval, just for your information.
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Hey flyry, Z32 manifolds are oval, just for your information.
flyry, needs to get his own sig pic
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Originally posted by Matt93SE



http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....light=manifold

TWO MINUTES!!! TWO FUDGING MINUTES!!!!!!!!
I saw that thread....but he is asking if they fit the VE
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