XmaximaX

I've all but mastered the art of the clutchless shift, i was just wondering if you do these all the time will it mess up the tranny at all. I was thinking that if i match the revs good at around 3 grand the gears slip in very nicely without a grinding sound or anything, so i dont think that it would be messing anything up, but i was just wondering if they do mess anyhthing up? Thanks.

ChrisCheezer

on a auto?

XmaximaX

Naw i got a 5-spd.

skatanic28

im way too scared ill **** somethin up bad if i try that
im clueless about the proper shift points

93maxVG

The cars got a clutch. Thats what it is for, I would use it unless you want to do some serious damage. No matter how good you think you are, if you mess up once, you're going to pay the concequences.

Matt93SE

iTrader: (44)

i've missed I don't know how many shifts and ground several times doing other stuff.. tranny is still fine. our tranny gears are pretty tough, but I wouldn't TRY to break it.

then again, if youv'e got the shift points down to where you don't grind when shifting, go for it. it'll save wear on the clutch and shouldn't cause the tranny any extra harm, unless you miss the shifts.

XmaximaX

Thats what i was thinking, that if i didnt hear anything grinding and stuff then i should be fine. Thanks for your input.

ThurzNite

iTrader: (13)

i've driven like that on my friend's 76 accord 2dr 5sp hatchback. No problems. Like u said, it's all about matching the rpms. I can do it on my gf's 93 altima 5sp, but prefer not to. never done it on my bro's 93 or 00 max cuz it's his car and not mine.
Jay

bucketheadd

I used to drive a BIG truck and once you get going you dont even think about a clutch. The trannys in them are a little more heavy duty, but a car or little truck can take it too.
I drive my Toyota Pick-em-up like that all the time, clutch has been slipping for 2 years. If I used the clutch all the time it would`ve been toast in no time.
As long as you dont grind alot you should be good to go, but grinding kills synchros (among other things)so dont force it. If it doesnt want to go, put the darn clutch in .
LATER

skatanic28

so how would one go about learnin this sort of thing
when up shifting just drop the rpm 800 or so and shift?

bucketheadd

Well you know what it feels like when you shift with the clutch, its about the same without. Theres a certain point where the syncros are aligned. Each car is different. Start practicing downshifting, but not in heavy traffic lol. when you`re comming to a stop light or sign, apply some pressure to the shifter as if you were putting it in 2nd gear. When the rpms are low enough and the tranny is slow enough, it`ll slide right in. After you get that one down, try downshifting with a little speed. When in 4th going around 35, take it outta gear and position it into 3rd and rev the engine a bit. You`ll need to work on it some, so I hope you have a good tranny.
I used to have an 81 Toyota Turdcell and once I got going I could shift thru all the gears without the clutch. 1st to 5th back into 1st again(1st is the toughest and not recommended unless you KNOW what you`re doing).
Once you have downshifting figured out, upshifting is just the opposite, so it should be easy.
Hope this helps ya. LATER

Badaxxima

I pop it outta 5th and slip it into 4th from time to time, but my tranny's too worn to do it easily in other gears (I learned to drive in it, plus my Mom and older bro drove it).

XmaximaX

The shift point in my max is around 2,500 to 3,000 and it should slip in good, i dont know if it will be that on your car or not.

FFxI30

iTrader: (2)

My other car is an old 85 F-150, and I do this all of the time. If you know your car you can tell exactly when the RPMs are right and you can shift without the clutch. I didn’t think it was possible until my dad bet me he could do it (since it used to be his truck) and I was amazed. Takes some time, but not something I recommend you doing unless you really know your car