hey guys. i have a couple of questions that could not be answered by the search...

1) i know brake torque-ing is bad but will a transmission cooler help?

2) i've been reading about launching an "automagic" by "shifting" it...but the only threads i could find were for 4th and 5th gen maxs. both gens have different "automagic shifting" launch methods due to thier different power bands (??). what is the fastest way to launch a 3rd gen automatic?

(WSP y-pipe on the way!!!)

 

convert it to a manual

ok im done being an *******
um whatever you do dont neutral drop it
can you break the tires loose with the e brake applied?
without moving too much
ve seen this done very productivly before

 

DON'T brake torque....cooler or not you will kill the tranny!

as for manual shifting, I've seen the best times in my own car(VG auto) by leaving it in D. IMO, manual shifting isn't all that much special!

 

manual shifting helps when i red line... i never went to a track... but on side streets it helps... e-braking is another thing you can use..... But dont neutral drop!!!!! WILL kill trannny and very expensive....Brake torqueing is bad....will kill converter...my opion... try all the methods e-braking .. redline the 1-2-d... or just try to not slip so much when you punch the gas


.... just try it... what ever works ofr you wont really work for another person...

Also try putting the tranny into sport shifting and put the o/d button off......

 

From what I understand of the Overdrive, and I know it does it in my mothers' truck, is that when you first hit the gas, it goes to OD then to 1st gear, and it's also very bad for the tranny to ride in OD all the time.
I've actually noticed an increased response on my 93 GXE when I take OD off at lights, and I do it regularly now, but I usually take it off as I'm slowing down and I get below 30 MPH, 'cuz I have also noticed that sometimes it takes about 5-10 feet before it'll disengage...
As for manual shifting, if you can do it right, I can see it working, but I have a hard time doing it right on the Max, because I keep forgetting it's more of a "sports" car then a regular car, and I shift it too soon in the power band... Then have to wait for it to shift itself.
I notice it especially if I'm racing and I have to hit 4th gear... Took me about 5-6 tries before I realized that no matter what I did, or what position I had the switch in, it ALWAYS hits 4th gear at 115MPH

 

thanks for the replies. is there a difference in e-braking and torque braking? does anyone know where the ve powerband is?

 

Actually, since we're on the subject, what exactly is torque braking? And why would you want to try starting with the e-brake on, is that for traction so both tires spin at the same time?
Well, not exactly traction, but to trick the computer into thinking there is traction?

 

ok brake torqing is holding the brake down and revving then letting it go for a fast launch, DOING THIS IS BAD i have done it a few times only revved to about 1000-1100 RPM, using the ebrake cuts out all the electronic Sh*t and just puts a load on the tranny .. as if it was going up hill or towing something, this will have a lot of ware on your tranny but is safer then brake torquing it,, but still NOT GOOD at all

 

Haven't you guys learned from the past?

If you have an automatic, and you know these transmissions are very fragile, why would you want to do all these crazy things?

If you want to launch like a manual, get a manual. I picked up a 94 240sx the other day and the **** smokes them tires like crazy!

Transmission coolers, much like radiators only give optimal cooling when the car is moving, so that wind is blowing against it and cooling it. When you're at a stop and trying to launch with some craziness, do you think the transmission cooler is really going to save your tranny? no way!

Having your transmission go out is terrible. I remember when it happened to mine, i had a host of problems. It wouldn't go into drive, i didn't have any reverse, so getting out of spaces was a b!tch because i literally had to push the car backwards!!!

The repairs are very very expensive, and i suggest that none of you ever abuse your auto transmissions. Put it in drive, keep the OD where it is and drive it like like that, in D. You'll beat most cars like this anyway.

 

I'm gonna have to agree here - baby your auto tranny, it's not meant to take all theat abuse, and you won't see much difference anyway.

kinda off subject but talking about this reminds me of this

I was at a light the other night next to a blue mustang. I wasn't planning on the racing the guy, but when the light turned green, the dumb*** gunned it, but he spun in both first and second gear going practically no where. I couldn't help it, I stomped it, flying by him with ease. He had a one-car lead when he "launched" too. Perfect example of bad manual drivers

 

if your name has anything to do with your life, then don't torque brake.

I shift mine, found that it seems to take time off. just try it at a test and tune and see what works the best with times... my VE auto... I would shift at 6000 for every shift point, that would get me the best times...

 

huh??? what electronic ****....brake torquing is 99% mechanical. by holding the brake and pressing the gas you turn the TC but not the wheels, thus creating extreme heat...it has nothing to do with electronics!

 

well the way ive seen e brakin done was to ebreak at the line
then give it full throttle
ive seen tires just smoke and the car stand still
its held until you want to go, release the handbrake, lift up the throttle a bit and your off
tires should be nice and hot and liquified by now, tons of smoke and effect, and it just looks nice

 

inside of tranny and TC =

 

If you want to experiment like this, thats fine. Go rent a car and do it and spare your car the damage. I rented a spanking new Altima and had quite a bit of fun in it, got it for the whole day for $25, did all the brake torque and neutral drops i wanted..i felt the pain of the car with the neutral drop when it just went BAM into gear. the ebrake method had better results.

then returned it and came home without having to worry about rebuilding my tranny. The next victim was a very nice dodge stratus, the stratus is a very fast car and very luxurious too, kinda made me want one for a sec. Some rentals have mustangs too..which is next.

Not that i endorse disrespect for the property of others..but big rental companies can afford it

You might say this is expensive..is it really? No. It satisfies your mind enough not to do it in your own car and those newer cars could handle the abuse more. I only paid $50 to have two nice cars for two whole days with all the miles i wanted to add to them. pretty cheap compared to the $1000+ it could have costed me to fix a maxima.

 

Brought to you from MCsearch.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....+AND+convertor
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....+AND+convertor

 

hehe...MC search! but I think flash stalling is the best method....I got my best times and 60fts(16.24/2.39, not from same run) to date flash stalling...I reccomend it over the other methods!

 

thanks. do you have to "shift" before 6000 for the transmission to actually shift at 6000? because automatics have a lag when gears shift. just wondering if you time it or shift when you see the tach hit 6000.

 

what is flash stalling?

 

ummmm..... forget i asked.... used the search.....

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