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Old Mar 28, 2002 | 04:02 PM
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VE Questions

Tired of VTC noises so I have one of two options
1. Swap the complete motor for another VE
2. Swap for a gen 4 motor(lighter, by about 100lbs and more torque)

Anyone have any ideas?
1993 SE, 166,600 miles.

I'm prepared to go the length to put in a stand alone ECU if the trans in the car will mate with the crank on the VQ. I just don't want to lose the factory LSD or the lightened flywheel.
Unless there are enough parts for internally modifying the VE,VQ will win.
HELP!!!!
Old Mar 28, 2002 | 04:04 PM
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1) Will likely have the same problem.
2) Is not a direct fit mehanicly or electronicly.
Old Mar 28, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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Well, there you have it....the moderator has spoken...don't waste ya time with the swap, just shell out the $2000 and make sure the VTC's are done correctly!!
Old Mar 28, 2002 | 11:26 PM
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I am a really really new newbie...

I just got hold a 89 Maxima w/ 100K on it so I don't know a dam thing about Max's(dam is spelled that way purposely)

What is a VE? I have an idea that it is trim model, but not sure

What is the VTC? It sounds like a pretty expensive toy.
Old Mar 29, 2002 | 12:31 AM
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Welcome to the boards... I would suggest doing a search to read up on both of them, but the basics are:


VE refers to the VE30DE engine. DOHC 190hp engine that's in 94-94 SE Maximas.

VG refers to the VG30E engine that's in all other 89-94 Maximas.

VQ is in all 95 and newer Maximas. the 2002 has a 3.5L version of the same 3.0L that's been in all the others since 95.

VTC= Variable Timed Cams... it's a goodie that's on the VE30DE engine that advances the imtake cam timing at low RPM for more overlap- producing more torque down low. it's vaguely similar to VTEC on hondas.. it has the same effect while driving, (you get more power above about 4000rpm when the engine switches modes) but it's completely different technology and method.

Unfortunately, Nissan didn't design the VTC system very well and they are known to wear out and make ugly noises after about 60k miles. some people's cars run just fine with the noise.. I know of two that have had serious problems (break timing chain, cam sprocket falls apart, etc).


If you'll use the search function (there's a link in the top right corner of the page), you can find out TONS more info on these topics..
Old Mar 29, 2002 | 01:20 AM
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i dont think i have ever seen you so....nice!
Old Mar 29, 2002 | 01:58 AM
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Originally posted by Matt93SE
Welcome to the boards... I would suggest doing a search to read up on both of them, but the basics are:


VE refers to the VE30DE engine. DOHC 190hp engine that's in 94-94 SE Maximas.

VG refers to the VG30E engine that's in all other 89-94 Maximas.

VQ is in all 95 and newer Maximas. the 2002 has a 3.5L version of the same 3.0L that's been in all the others since 95.

VTC= Variable Timed Cams... it's a goodie that's on the VE30DE engine that advances the imtake cam timing at low RPM for more overlap- producing more torque down low. it's vaguely similar to VTEC on hondas.. it has the same effect while driving, (you get more power above about 4000rpm when the engine switches modes) but it's completely different technology and method.

Unfortunately, Nissan didn't design the VTC system very well and they are known to wear out and make ugly noises after about 60k miles. some people's cars run just fine with the noise.. I know of two that have had serious problems (break timing chain, cam sprocket falls apart, etc).


If you'll use the search function (there's a link in the top right corner of the page), you can find out TONS more info on these topics..
He means 92-94 SE's have VE30DE motors
Old Mar 29, 2002 | 02:11 AM
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Re: VE Questions

Originally posted by whoisdeh
Tired of VTC noises so I have one of two options
1. Swap the complete motor for another VE
2. Swap for a gen 4 motor(lighter, by about 100lbs and more torque)

Anyone have any ideas?
1993 SE, 166,600 miles.

I'm prepared to go the length to put in a stand alone ECU if the trans in the car will mate with the crank on the VQ. I just don't want to lose the factory LSD or the lightened flywheel.
Unless there are enough parts for internally modifying the VE,VQ will win.
HELP!!!!
Why not swap in different heads with replaced VTCs? Its cheaper than a motor install.
Old Mar 29, 2002 | 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by Matt93SE

VTC= Variable Timed Cams... it's a goodie that's on the VE30DE engine that advances the imtake cam timing at low RPM for more overlap- producing more torque down low. it's vaguely similar to VTEC on hondas.. it has the same effect while driving, (you get more power above about 4000rpm when the engine switches modes) but it's completely different technology and method.
and another difference is that we dont drive around with "VTC" stickers on our rear doors as do hondas with their "VTEC"
Old Mar 29, 2002 | 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Maximan190

and another difference is that we dont drive around with "VTC" stickers on our rear doors as do hondas with their "VTEC"
aww man... I was hoping on all of my dreams that there would be a decal with "VTC" for the Max's... shoot MAN!!! whats up with that?!!

But then again, I'm kidding
Old Mar 29, 2002 | 11:34 PM
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Re: Re: VE Questions

Originally posted by Nismo87SE

Why not swap in different heads with replaced VTCs? Its cheaper than a motor install.
where oh where would i get some?
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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Maybe thats why VE have VTC troubles no ***** stinkers about it.
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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Damn thats a good idea, a sticker that says:
Functioning VTC
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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This thread shoulda died a year ago!
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 11:40 PM
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You could spend $3k+ trying to fit a VQ into your car for what? 15lb ft of torque and a 100 less lbs??? that should make you a whole lot faster :rollseyes: a healthy VE will give any VQ a run, ask Matt or Aaron or anyone with a modded healthy VE.


So my vote is option #3 FIX THE DAMN THINGS
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by dmontzmax
You could spend $3k+ trying to fit a VQ into your car for what? 15lb ft of torque and a 100 less lbs??? that should make you a whole lot faster :rollseyes: a healthy VE will give any VQ a run, ask Matt or Aaron or anyone with a modded healthy VE.


So my vote is option #3 FIX THE DAMN THINGS
Don, check out the post dates. A newbie decided to bring a thread back from the dead again.
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by Aaron92SE


Don, check out the post dates. A newbie decided to bring a thread back from the dead again.
oh, hehe
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