Anybody with a VE ever install a custom grind cam??

A simple cam can do wonders to a NA motor.

 

not much to be done on a VE in that aspect.. one member installed 300ZX NA cams on his and only gained about 5 hp.

 

Compare the lift/duration specs between the 2 cams(VE30DE and VG30DE) and you'll see why there was only a 5 hp gain. Hrm..

 

Exactly..

 

AIM screwball? =)

 

?>?? vg auto

 

maybe you should be more specific??

 

in the vg auto max, would the hp gain increase, and would it work on a vg engine

 

YES!! I've seen the Nismo Euro Cam(262/262/392") in action on a 92 GXE, with bolt-ons it is VERY effective in restoring VG topend or the lack there of! go visit z31.com, many of them are using the Isky grinds with the 450" druation and report good results w/o sacraficing driveability, might be a little hard on a stock auto though!

 

No, because they are DOHC and VG has SOHC. There is no need to worry about Z32 cams when JWT has Stage 1 & 2 cams already for the VG plus there is also Nismo cams.

 

i feel that my top end is decent

 

BAH...you know what I mean! did you get my email...

 

will it work yes and no???Very confused.. if its for dohc then it wouldnt work in my sohc..?are their any cams that can increase a 91 gxe vg

 

For the VG30E maxima engine..

Z32 cams = NO
Z31 cams = YES

 

z31, ok how much and is it a diy? or if it more complex than just putting it in?

 

NOT a diy job unless you know how or have done it before, JWT sells the cam.

 

Don't get Z31 stock cams. Won't do much help. Get the JWT cams or Nismo cams. Cost is around $500. Install takes some work though since you have to pull off the head.

 

for someone not experienced in engine work, its COMPLEX....in a nutshell you have to remove both heads and install the new cams and lifters(are suggested)....the process is highlighted in the Haynes manual, its a basic and rather vague description, but it works. labor from a shop = $$$$$$!!!!

 

dayum..soo basically not worth it for my vg???its crap as it is with 160 horses..

 

ummmmmm, noooooo, did you read this whole thread??? .....its one of the best mods you can do on a VG besides FI!!!

 

just seems to me that this mod ,even though its gives 5 hp, wouldnt be in my choice just because of the time and labor plus parts for 5 horses.. while 92 se have 190?? just doesnt make sense to make a vg gain exra horses just so it can compete with a se , this is why i stated that it would better be bennifitted for the se to make it more powerful than its aleady is..

 

just so it can compete with an SE.....more like whoop up on an SE....

I think you're not understanding the full benefit of these. HP figures are all well and good(not sure where you got 5hp from, cause thats wrong), but the cams also improve the VG topend and allow power to continue into the low 6ks on the powerband(rather then the usual drop off around 5200-5500. and I guess the cams were pretty pointless for Max O/D to put in his 92 GXE, I mean he could ONLY kill modified VE autos and lightly modded VQ autos in his VG auto with cams....but yeah, I guess thats not worth it...but yeah if you don't have a means of doing the labor yourself or your not up to paying for someone to do it for you than I wouldn't suggest this mod!!!

 

haha, yah i got few of your emails, dude make an AIM sn so we can chit chat

 

hehehe, okay I'm gonna do it tommorow...I was gonna do it today, but I got discouraged because every damn SN I tried to create was used...

 

crazy4max - the vg30de cams only improved 5hp on the VE, not the vg30e


damax - its cam, not cams

 

so wuts the deal it helps out...but only for just the extra 6k rpms. A 91 vg with 167+ k on it with this mod will beat a se? with the top end having 140 compared to my 125??

 

 

so wuts the improvement for the vg hp... telling me that ve with cam =195 vs 165hp and vg with cam still whoops ve??


does the torque play vital roll here? Pretty much almost the same torque stock ve vstock vg

 

wow you must be really dumb,

VG = 2 cams
VE/VGDE = 4 cams

 

damax.. just use a sn with your favorite number.. damax####

 

see screen name

 

they put na z32 cams in a VE and only increased power by 5hp

the cams available for the VG through JWT and Nismo increase power more than using the na z32 cams in the ve.

 

yeah uhhh, thats only what, an extra 500-800rpm worth of power...thats nothing.....the VGs main problem is its LACK of top end breathing. if you notice on your car or have ever looked at a VG dyno(5spd or auto) once you get into the low/mid 5ks you'll notice power drops, while the VE and VQ climbs higher. but there is a downside, TQ will slightly decrease in the exhange for the increase in top end, but not to a detrimental extent(Nismo87 has posted the dynos many times in the past).

and you have to understand that its not based on a simple 5hp gain....if the cam spec is out of sinc with the car or not designed for it then of course the gains will not be effective, but seeing that there are about ~5 major manufacturers of various VG cams and more than several "pre-made" grinds(I think Motorsport alone has 3-4 different grinds)...they must be doing something right for the VG engine!

I understand this is not a mod for everyone because of price and difficulty, but don't let sway you from realizing the potential....if your auto tranny is strong enough, I'm sure some Motorsport(280/280/435") would make a modded VG
auto a definite contender.

okay time for me to sleep.....

 

You are still confused.
VE30DE w/VG30DE cams = 5hp gain
VG30E w/JWT cams or Nismo cams = over 10hp gain (hp gain varies depending on what kind of cams you get)

so VE goes from 190hp --> 195hp
and VG goes from 160hp --> 170-180hp

 

so its ompetitive. with more mods then the vg would have a fair chance if not will beat the ve.. but still the issue of top end

 

Wow all this talk and no one says to search I'm . http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....cams+AND+power

 

 

That old thread is still around?!?! That was back when I had my modded Pearl White 90 SE 5-spd w/91 VG motor. Then I realized my car was still slow and decided to go back to stock and sell the car and start with a 300ZX

 

ever figure out how to get the vids of your vg30et swap on your comp?

 

to hear the wav sound of the engine... your geo cities link is not working