Karguy explains why our cars NEED NGK plugs!
Karguy explains why our cars NEED NGK plugs!
This was a PM to me from Karguy sometime ago explaining why the NGK plugs are necessary.
Enjoy!
Enjoy!
karguy
Autolite Plugs
The distibutorless ignition system was designed to use the NGK Double Platinum (OEM) plug. The polarity is reversed on alternating plugs. What happens is that 3 plugs fire center electrode to ground electrode. The other 3 fire ground electrode to center electrode and that significantly reduces the service life on non double platinum plugs ie. Autolite, Bosch, Denso Iridium. By designing the system that way the engineers were able to increase the time for saturating the coil by over 50%. They did a fine job, I have yet to hear someone say they had ignition system lack of spark problems.
Autolite Plugs
The distibutorless ignition system was designed to use the NGK Double Platinum (OEM) plug. The polarity is reversed on alternating plugs. What happens is that 3 plugs fire center electrode to ground electrode. The other 3 fire ground electrode to center electrode and that significantly reduces the service life on non double platinum plugs ie. Autolite, Bosch, Denso Iridium. By designing the system that way the engineers were able to increase the time for saturating the coil by over 50%. They did a fine job, I have yet to hear someone say they had ignition system lack of spark problems.
Re: Karguy explains why our cars NEED NGK plugs!
Originally posted by fst96se
This was a PM to me from Karguy sometime ago explaining why the NGK plugs are necessary.
Enjoy!
This was a PM to me from Karguy sometime ago explaining why the NGK plugs are necessary.
Enjoy!
Now I know why I felt a small drop in low end with the Bosch +4's. They hold to much resistance.
Originally posted by Jeff92se
Why would he have to PM you that info?
Why would he have to PM you that info?
Originally posted by CFster
Hard to swallow. The coil fires through ground? Huh? The polarity of the vehicles electrical system doesn't change at will.
I'd be interested in learning more about this...
Hard to swallow. The coil fires through ground? Huh? The polarity of the vehicles electrical system doesn't change at will.
I'd be interested in learning more about this...
Enlighten us!
Originally posted by Chino
Are you telling me that my car would peform better with NGKs instead of my current Denso's?
Are you telling me that my car would peform better with NGKs instead of my current Denso's?
Originally posted by fst96se
That is what EVERYONE who knows anything about plugs is saying. Including the guys running boost and NOS. They all agree on the NGK's, though some are using one step colder plugs.
That is what EVERYONE who knows anything about plugs is saying. Including the guys running boost and NOS. They all agree on the NGK's, though some are using one step colder plugs.
Originally posted by Chino
Could that explain why I run flat 17s with HAI and rear section muffler?
Could that explain why I run flat 17s with HAI and rear section muffler?
Originally posted by fst96se
You sound like an electrical engineer!
Enlighten us!
You sound like an electrical engineer!
Enlighten us!
I think it's a line of BS the guy filled him with. There are probably other reasons why NGKs perform better in Maximas.
Originally posted by CFster
Not quite. But I fix cars for a living, and I just don't understand what the guy is saying. The ground electrode of the spark plug grounds to the engine block through the threads, or body of the spark plug. When a coil fires, the spark goes through the center of the spark plug up to the center electrode and then jumps to the ground electrode. The current then travels through the engine block, through the ground strap then to the negative side of the battery. There's no way to reverse that flow - you would get a short.
I think it's a line of BS the guy filled him with. There are probably other reasons why NGKs perform better in Maximas.
Not quite. But I fix cars for a living, and I just don't understand what the guy is saying. The ground electrode of the spark plug grounds to the engine block through the threads, or body of the spark plug. When a coil fires, the spark goes through the center of the spark plug up to the center electrode and then jumps to the ground electrode. The current then travels through the engine block, through the ground strap then to the negative side of the battery. There's no way to reverse that flow - you would get a short.
I think it's a line of BS the guy filled him with. There are probably other reasons why NGKs perform better in Maximas.
Originally posted by Chino
Could that explain why I run flat 17s with HAI and rear section muffler?
Could that explain why I run flat 17s with HAI and rear section muffler?
Flat 17's ohh man if your running something like that it might be a little more than just the plugs check your Knock Sensor, and possibly your fuel Filter. I Run a 15.4 with a HAI and a Crappy knock sensor. It was 62 degrees at the track then also. I did just buy the new NGK's There expensive but they are cheap insurance.
Brian
Re: Karguy explains why our cars NEED NGK plugs!
I thought stock was single platinum. It sounds like he is trying to explain how a coil for 2 spark plugs work like in gm vehicles. But our maxima has one coil for one plug.
Originally posted by fst96se
This was a PM to me from Karguy sometime ago explaining why the NGK plugs are necessary.
Enjoy!
This was a PM to me from Karguy sometime ago explaining why the NGK plugs are necessary.
Enjoy!
my car has been running like sh*t recently and i got a ecu code of cylinder 3 misfire. had my car since 84,000 miles and never changed spark plugs since (113,000)...doubt guy before me did either. Just ordered some from tustin nissan today for 8.80 a piece along with a fuel filter. Hopefully this solves all problems
Originally posted by fst96se
Some time ago I was going to buy some plugs, and was asking bout various brands. He PM'd me this message, and he also had some new NGK's to sell me....
Some time ago I was going to buy some plugs, and was asking bout various brands. He PM'd me this message, and he also had some new NGK's to sell me....
Originally posted by Kenneth
he was not exactly neutral is his analysis.
he was not exactly neutral is his analysis.
Originally posted by CFster
Hard to swallow. The coil fires through ground? Huh? The polarity of the vehicles electrical system doesn't change at will.
I'd be interested in learning more about this...
Hard to swallow. The coil fires through ground? Huh? The polarity of the vehicles electrical system doesn't change at will.
I'd be interested in learning more about this...
Look here:
http://au.geocities.com/ozbrick850/e...boschplat.html
http://shotimes.com/SHO3sparkplugs.html
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What happens is that 3 plugs fire center electrode to ground electrode. The other 3 fire ground electrode to center electrode
Re: Karguy explains why our cars NEED NGK plugs!
Originally posted by fst96se
This was a PM to me from Karguy sometime ago explaining why the NGK plugs are necessary.
Enjoy!
This was a PM to me from Karguy sometime ago explaining why the NGK plugs are necessary.
Enjoy!
LOL, BS.
But the NGK's do seem to work better for whatever reason(but not that one). It would be interesting to do some track timings with the same Max with different plugs.
-RMB
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