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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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Pacesetter STS users. Questions???

OK, Ok, I've done my search, read all the threads... but I just want clarification on something....

When people say 50% or 75% throw, are you guys talking about where the ball is located on the threads? Like right in the middle is 50%? 1/3 down form the top of the threads is 75%?

What's the recommendation? ball in the middle or a touch higher? I've heard syncros story on going max out on the top of the threads to have the shortest throw and I don't want to have to repair something later on.

All the answers and opinions would be appreciated!

Tifosi
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 03:00 PM
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Re: Pacesetter STS users. Questions???

Originally posted by Tifosi
OK, Ok, I've done my search, read all the threads... but I just want clarification on something....

When people say 50% or 75% throw, are you guys talking about where the ball is located on the threads? Like right in the middle is 50%? 1/3 down form the top of the threads is 75%?

What's the recommendation? ball in the middle or a touch higher? I've heard syncros story on going max out on the top of the threads to have the shortest throw and I don't want to have to repair something later on.

All the answers and opinions would be appreciated!

Tifosi
I am not sure what the 'everyone else' above are talking about with the percentages of throw, but I have my set to the shortest throw possible (aka the ball is top the top of the threads). The shorter the throw, the farther the linkage is lowered underneath. I had to deform my heat shield quite a bit to get the linkage not to rub. It does not shift as smooth as it did stock, but I never tried driving my car with the throw set differently than the shortest possible with my my Pacesetter, so I am not sure how much difference in feel it makes with respect to the setting of the throw.
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 04:01 PM
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Re: Pacesetter STS users. Questions???

Originally posted by Tifosi
OK, Ok, I've done my search, read all the threads... but I just want clarification on something....

When people say 50% or 75% throw, are you guys talking about where the ball is located on the threads? Like right in the middle is 50%? 1/3 down form the top of the threads is 75%?

What's the recommendation? ball in the middle or a touch higher? I've heard syncros story on going max out on the top of the threads to have the shortest throw and I don't want to have to repair something later on.

All the answers and opinions would be appreciated!

Tifosi
i have mine set at approx 65%...

--- [top of threading (100% shortenes)]
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| <---i have mine in here (65-70%)
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| [middle of threading (50% shortness)]
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--- [bottom of threading (0% possible shortness)]

the throw is much shorter and i didnt want to go all the way short in fear of damaging the synchros. and i did have to bang the heat shield.



hope this info helps you out.
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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Re: Re: Pacesetter STS users. Questions???

Originally posted by Requin6

--- [top of threading (100% shortenes)]
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| <---i have mine in here (65-70%)
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| [middle of threading (50% shortness)]
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--- [bottom of threading (0% possible shortness)]

hope this info helps you out.
Very very helpful! Thanks a bunch!

Tifosi
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 04:36 PM
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I put my STS next to the stock shifter and compared the length from the ball down. I set the ball so the lower portion of the STS was about an inch longer than stock. I think it ended up in about the middle of the threaded section. Throws are noticably shorter but I wish I had gone a little more. I may take it out and adjust it slightly shorter at some point.
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 06:49 PM
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Re: Re: Pacesetter STS users. Questions???

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Requin6
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i have mine set at approx 65%...






That were I have mine set also!!!
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 07:12 PM
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I suggest that you set the STS at about 40-45%. At first I set mine at about 65%, and it was fun for a little while. In about a month or so the shifts became a lot harder, especially in the morning. At 65%, the shifter would get stuck in reverse and 5th a lot. It would grind going into 1st on a roll sometimes too. Keep in mind though, I still have the stock fluid in the trans. Maybe with the addition of MT-90 fluid things would be different. Right now, my setting is at about 45%, and I enjoy that a lot more than the 65%. The shifts are a lot smoother and are still much shorter than stock.

Peace.
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 07:48 PM
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Re: Re: Pacesetter STS users. Questions???

Originally posted by Requin6


i have mine set at approx 65%...

--- [top of threading (100% shortenes)]
|
|
| <---i have mine in here (65-70%)
|
| [middle of threading (50% shortness)]
|
|
|
|
--- [bottom of threading (0% possible shortness)]

Nice pic Requin6!
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by 2KxSEx
I suggest that you set the STS at about 40-45%. At first I set mine at about 65%, and it was fun for a little while. In about a month or so the shifts became a lot harder, especially in the morning. At 65%, the shifter would get stuck in reverse and 5th a lot. It would grind going into 1st on a roll sometimes too. Keep in mind though, I still have the stock fluid in the trans. Maybe with the addition of MT-90 fluid things would be different. Right now, my setting is at about 45%, and I enjoy that a lot more than the 65%. The shifts are a lot smoother and are still much shorter than stock.

Peace.
i put in Amsoil Series 2000 MT fluid...everything is like "butter"
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 10:15 PM
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my new max is at 50% \

feels mad good
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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Re: Re: Pacesetter STS users. Questions???

Originally posted by Requin6




What shift **** is that? I like it a lot.
Old Oct 18, 2002 | 06:27 AM
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I check my stock against my STS and I thought it was set at 65 but it's actually set at about 55. I haven't had any problem with this setting at all...
Old Oct 18, 2002 | 06:05 PM
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Ok, I just came back from installing my STS.

Installation took about 45 minutes, the hardest part honestly was getting the bottom of the shifter out of the hole, even that didn't take long. I used a digital caliber to compare the stock ball size and the Pacesetter size and used a dremel to shave the ball down to exact dimension. My neutral position is great, I have no idea why people are having trouble getting the shifter back to center. When I move it left or right, it goes right back to center and I can move it straight forward or straight back into 3rd and 4th gear. And my return spring tension toward left and right are identical to stock, I did have to stretch the spring a tad. I set it to about 65%-70% and the throw is good, shift **** is on the right height and throw is short but not too short. It's noticeable stiffer but it's not like I can't get back into gears or have trouble getting into reverse. I really think it's the matter of the installer being maticulous and know what he's doing, really. Heck, it took me only 5 minutes to put a big dent in the heatshield, and now the bottom of the shifter isn't rubbing against anything.

Anywa, took about 10 minutes to get used to especially from 2nd to 3rd but now I'm driving it like normal again.

Thanks for all the help guys! It's definitely worth the money and the 45 minutes to install! Next would be the MT tranny fluid.

Tifosi
Old Dec 16, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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Did any of you guys need to sand the ball down on your Pacesetter STS for it to fit?
Old Dec 17, 2002 | 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by SonicDust187
Did any of you guys need to sand the ball down on your Pacesetter STS for it to fit?
old thread, but hell yes. I dont understand how some people got it in there without sanding it down. Maybe the ball they gave me was too big or something. I had to buy a Dremel tool just for this.
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