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I Hate the Stock Shifter !!!

Old Nov 7, 2002 | 09:38 AM
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I Hate the Stock Shifter !!!

I had the Pacesetter shifter and thaught it was better and smoother to go back to stock. So when I had my tranny put in, I decided to have the stock shifter put in..well I hate it !! Its like shifter water so i was thinking about putting the pacesetter back in myself, but ill probably winde up gettin sick of that too

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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 09:39 AM
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Sounds like your difficult to please here huh?

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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 09:50 AM
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get an automatic
Old Nov 7, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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Drive a ferrari 360 - then try and get back in your max to go home........

(although the shifter won't be the only thing you'll be mad about then...)
Old Nov 7, 2002 | 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by hlh0501
Drive a ferrari 360
Oddly enough most of us dont have that option.

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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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Why don't you try cutting your stock shifter. I was worried about the problems people had with the STS, so I just cut mine down about and 1-1/2". The throw is not actually any shorter, but the distance your had has to go is lessend. I like it alot.
Old Nov 7, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD
The throw is not actually any shorter, but the distance your had has to go is lessend.

Hmmm, what do you define as throw then? I thought it was the distance your hand moves?
Old Nov 7, 2002 | 02:53 PM
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Hmmm, what do you define as throw then? I thought it was the distance your hand moves?
the throw is the distance it takes to go from one gear to another. If you cut the stock shifter the distance stays the same. The leverage is just changed. Your hand does not have to moves as far between shifts.
Old Nov 7, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD
cutting your stock shifter
What method did you or mechanic (?) use to cut your stock shifter?
Old Nov 7, 2002 | 03:20 PM
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What method did you or mechanic (?) use to cut your stock shifter?
Most just use a pipe cutter.

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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 03:25 PM
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Re: I Hate the Stock Shifter !!!

Originally posted by matty
I had the Pacesetter shifter and thaught it was better and smoother to go back to stock. So when I had my tranny put in, I decided to have the stock shifter put in..well I hate it !! Its like shifter water so i was thinking about putting the pacesetter back in myself, but ill probably winde up gettin sick of that too

-matt
how long did you have the pacesetter STS in?
Old Nov 7, 2002 | 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by JerseyMaxima


What method did you or mechanic (?) use to cut your stock shifter?
Hacksaw. There is a write up on it some where.
Old Nov 7, 2002 | 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD


the throw is the distance it takes to go from one gear to another. If you cut the stock shifter the distance stays the same. The leverage is just changed. Your hand does not have to moves as far between shifts.
So if your hand does not moves as far, the throw is lessened by your hand.
Old Nov 7, 2002 | 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD


Hacksaw. There is a write up on it some where.
question

when you cut the stock shifter...
how did you fit the shift **** back on it?

i figured you saw off the part where the thread is for the **** to be screwed on
Old Nov 7, 2002 | 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by NYCe MaXiMa
question

when you cut the stock shifter...
how did you fit the shift **** back on it?

i figured you saw off the part where the thread is for the **** to be screwed on
I used an aftermarket momo ****, it connects with 3 screws on opposite sides.
Old Nov 7, 2002 | 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD


the throw is the distance it takes to go from one gear to another. If you cut the stock shifter the distance stays the same. The leverage is just changed. Your hand does not have to moves as far between shifts.
what is the difference between the distance between shifts, and how far your hand moves to shift
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 07:01 AM
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when you cut the stock shifter...
how did you fit the shift **** back on it?
You can use a pipe threader, but usually the circumference of the motion of using the tool is too great for use inside the car I think. It's been a while since I considered cutting a stock lever (my integra)...I just lived with it. (Actually, a circular **** where the thread goes through all the way to the top made me happy).

what is the difference between the distance between shifts, and how far your hand moves to shift
Has to do with what part of the whole lever you shorten. I mean, STSs aren't just levers that are cut from the top....it's the other way. Cutting the top of the lever doesn't really shorten the throw, but it can make the throws more comfortable.

I've gotten used to the stock throws/****. But every now and then mine will get a little caught up engaging second gear and sometimes I'll scratch a bit if I don't catch it with my foot in time. Otherwise it's smooth sailin to me. The clutch (OEM) is what brings my woes
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by SuDZ


Oddly enough most of us dont have that option.

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I will this summer, and I promise to take LOTS of pics!
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by spiff56747


what is the difference between the distance between shifts, and how far your hand moves to shift
Do you have a stock shifter? Next time you drive grab the shaft at the bottom, not the ***, and shift that way. Feel how your hand does not move as much? It does not make the distance between gears shorter. So is shifting by holding on the the shaft a STS, NO. Is cutting the stock shifter the same as a STS, No. Do they both feel different and better than stock, yes.
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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Does anybody have a stock shifter they don't need? I'll take it off their hands.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD


Do you have a stock shifter? Next time you drive grab the shaft at the bottom, not the ***, and shift that way. Feel how your hand does not move as much? It does not make the distance between gears shorter. So is shifting by holding on the the shaft a STS, NO. Is cutting the stock shifter the same as a STS, No. Do they both feel different and better than stock, yes.
I agree that an STS makes your throws shorter, and it works in a different way by moving the pivot point itself (I know, i have the Pacesetter). However, if you cut the stock shifter, you are still moving your hand a little less, because the length of the shifter is now shorter at the top, while the pivot point is the same, but you are still moving your hand between gears less of a distance than before (by trigonometry).

If that's what you meant originally, then I agree with you.
Old Nov 9, 2002 | 05:43 AM
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Re: I Hate the Stock Shifter !!!

Before you put your STS back on, try this;

http://www.rspeed.net/miata/item.asp...0&prod=531-103

It's a Mazda Miata aftermarket shift ****. Totally compatible with the Maxima threading. Just unscrew the stock shifter, and screw this one on. It makes the shifter slightly shorter, so the throws are a bit shorter, too. And it looks cool too.

DW


Originally posted by matty
I had the Pacesetter shifter and thaught it was better and smoother to go back to stock. So when I had my tranny put in, I decided to have the stock shifter put in..well I hate it !! Its like shifter water so i was thinking about putting the pacesetter back in myself, but ill probably winde up gettin sick of that too

-matt
Old Nov 9, 2002 | 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by spiff56747


I agree that an STS makes your throws shorter, and it works in a different way by moving the pivot point itself (I know, i have the Pacesetter). However, if you cut the stock shifter, you are still moving your hand a little less, because the length of the shifter is now shorter at the top, while the pivot point is the same, but you are still moving your hand between gears less of a distance than before (by trigonometry).

If that's what you meant originally, then I agree with you.
Thats all I was saying. I was hesitant to get a STS. This was a good alternative. It is much better than stock.
Old Nov 9, 2002 | 10:41 AM
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Re: Re: I Hate the Stock Shifter !!!

Originally posted by dwapenyi
Before you put your STS back on, try this;

http://www.rspeed.net/miata/item.asp...0&prod=531-103

It's a Mazda Miata aftermarket shift ****. Totally compatible with the Maxima threading. Just unscrew the stock shifter, and screw this one on. It makes the shifter slightly shorter, so the throws are a bit shorter, too. And it looks cool too.

DW


Do you have a pic of this **** on the maxima?

I'd just like to see how it looks
also
what material is it made out of? is it comfortable to hold?

i was going to buy a MOMO race air all leather ****, it's a ball type **** but MOMO is expensive as hell...
Old Nov 9, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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Re: Re: Re: I Hate the Stock Shifter !!!

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Do you have a pic of this **** on the maxima?

I'd just like to see how it looks
also
what material is it made out of? is it comfortable to hold?

i was going to buy a MOMO race air all leather ****, it's a ball type **** but MOMO is expensive as hell...
check the sig for the sola luna **** described above. $35-$40 i think it was. it is metal but it has some coating on it that makes it not so hot and not so cold in those temps. it fits my palm perfectly. btw, the **** is on a pacesetter STS.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: I Hate the Stock Shifter !!!

His sig pic has it. Mine is at the stock height. No STS. Looks great either way. Actually his looks better

DW

Originally posted by Requin6


check the sig for the sola luna **** described above. $35-$40 i think it was. it is metal but it has some coating on it that makes it not so hot and not so cold in those temps. it fits my palm perfectly. btw, the **** is on a pacesetter STS.
Old Nov 27, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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if you guys are trying to find out how to cut the shifter here it is

http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...k-shifter.html


just goota delete http://forums.maxima.org/!394142! to get the link to work
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Jeez...10 year old thread. Almost to the day
Old Nov 27, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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I always get a kick out of these old thread bumps. At least they searched.
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sorry guys i didn't even look at the date my bad
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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WHen I owned a 4th gen (about the time of this thread in 2002), I liked the Pacesetter STS. Was much smoother than the stock shifter & I liked that it was adjustable & the shorter throws...

Much love to the age of this thread.
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Originally Posted by dtholmanmax
WHen I owned a 4th gen (about the time of this thread in 2002), I liked the Pacesetter STS. Was much smoother than the stock shifter & I liked that it was adjustable & the shorter throws...

Much love to the age of this thread.
i liked ur 4th gen better ^^^^
Old Nov 29, 2012 | 10:55 AM
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i liked ur 4th gen better ^^^^
You and me both. Don't have either at this point. Trying to get back to a 4th gen within the year
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