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Old Mar 31, 2003 | 12:14 AM
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MEVI went to track today and run LONG:(

Arrggggggg,first time out to the track today and make two run.I am auto.My mods are Frankercar intake w/mid pipe,wsp y pipe,ur pully,MEVI,and 2k Max catback._____My time on the first run as follow 1.150 reaction(I know first time suck but no peel out)2.448>6.636>10.058 at 72.49>13.028>15.626 at 86.48(I hit the rev limit in sec)._____My sec run .696 reaction(getting better this time but peel out)2.399>6.717>10.245 at 70.73>13.247>15.802 at 87.40. Sorry guys I know it's hard to read the #,but don't know how post time slip on here.
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So what do you guy think about my time?What seem to be wrong with the car and why I trap so low? Do you guy thing the MEVI or something else cause my car this slow?Car seem to be running smooth,tune up,clean tb,and no code on ecu.
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seems pretty low something must be wrong
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Originally posted by Nismo
seems pretty low something must be wrong
I don't know too,but I had a bad feeling it's prolly the MEVI maybe not open on third or something else? But does the 0-60 time look right to you 6.63>6.71 ?It seem to pick up pretty well until around 75-80mph I think.Well I will try not to use the relay and see what happen.
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Originally posted by 96_vqmax
So what do you guy think about my time?What seem to be wrong with the car and why I trap so low? Do you guy thing the MEVI or something else cause my car this slow?Car seem to be running smooth,tune up,clean tb,and no code on ecu.
No disrepect to you but it's your driving. Look at your 60' times, they're horrible. You should be running 2.2 in the 60' mark. Your car seems to be able to run 15.0 to 15.2 from the numbers I'm looking at. Most autos running 2.44 60' would be running 16's in the 1/4.

I also would shy away from maually shifting because of hitting the limit, it slows you down in the end killing the purpose of the VI. I've hit my best numbers without shifting.

Avoid the water box, spin the tires a bit to clean the crap of your tires and torque brake to 1800 or 2000 soon as you get lined up. On 3rd yellow floor it like you're stepping on a roach and you will see better times.
Old Mar 31, 2003 | 06:03 AM
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I couldn't break 2.4 60's last time out....It definately is your driving, or something is wrong with your car...I ran a 15.6x with a 2.41 60 ft, with only intake/ypipe
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What altitude? I know that up where I live we get an extra second or two added onto our 1/4 mile times because of altitude.
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No disrepect to you but it's your driving. Look at your 60' times, they're horrible. You should be running 2.2 in the 60' mark. Your car seems to be able to run 15.0 to 15.2 from the numbers I'm looking at. Most autos running 2.44 60' would be running 16's in the 1/4.

I also would shy away from maually shifting because of hitting the limit, it slows you down in the end killing the purpose of the VI. I've hit my best numbers without shifting.

Avoid the water box, spin the tires a bit to clean the crap of your tires and torque brake to 1800 or 2000 soon as you get lined up. On 3rd yellow floor it like you're stepping on a roach and you will see better times.
It's my first time out to the track.The track we went doesn't seem like it has the yellow tree or it's not working.It doesn't go from yellow yellow and green,it just go from yellow to green anyway.So how do you get that 60' time down.Cause I power brake like you said too,torque brake to 1800 or 2000 soon as I get lined up and floor it like I'm stepping on a roach,too.But I did went through some water on the floor and did a little spin the tires.But I still get 2.44 60' time.So you don't think it's the car right? It's my driving?
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No disrepect to you but it's your driving. Look at your 60' times, they're horrible. You should be running 2.2 in the 60' mark. Your car seems to be able to run 15.0 to 15.2 from the numbers I'm looking at. Most autos running 2.44 60' would be running 16's in the 1/4.
I was getting the same 2.4 60s and still managed a 89-90 mph trap speed with a 15.5 and I have the same mods as him minus the pulley and VI. there is alot of things that can factor in the difference but 86mph seems a little low for what he has
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I was getting the same 2.4 60s and still managed a 89-90 mph trap speed with a 15.5 and I have the same mods as him minus the pulley and VI. there is alot of things that can factor in the difference but 86mph seems a little low for what he has
So what was your 0-60 time?What was your tire pressure psi when you run,and what condition was your tire.My tire pressure is 25/39 f/r and tire was almost brand new 6 mon old.
Old Mar 31, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by zeff789
What altitude? I know that up where I live we get an extra second or two added onto our 1/4 mile times because of altitude.
Honestly I don't know,I will try to ask around and see if anyone know.It's Houston raceway park that I went to or maybe someone know will answere your question.Sorry!
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Originally posted by Jamsan
I couldn't break 2.4 60's last time out....It definately is your driving, or something is wrong with your car...I ran a 15.6x with a 2.41 60 ft, with only intake/ypipe
So why is that you couldn't break 2.4 60' cause it's your driving or what?I don't see how hard it is that someone need to learn how to drive their AUTO?The trap speed I got seem to match the trap speed of the USIM that's why I was assumming it is not open in third.So what was your 0-60 time?
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Track elevation at HRP is like 700 feet, that's not whats going on here. The 60' times are poor but that isn't the main problem, your car just isn't making the power it should be. You should be trapping at like 90mph not 86-87mph. Knock sensor maybe? Do you have a 2000lb stereo?

BTW that is not your 0-60 time it's the 330' time. The drag strip measures time to distance, not time to speed.
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So what was your 0-60 time?What was your tire pressure psi when you run,and what condition was your tire.My tire pressure is 25/39 f/r and tire was almost brand new 6 mon old.
psi was 36 front 33 rear, condition of my bfg tkws tires were about 50% thread left, 20lb 16's and had full tank of gas. Not to mention that it was my first day at a track and I drove through the water box accidentally at that run. manually shifted

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Track elevation at HRP is like 700 feet, that's not whats going on here. The 60' times are poor but that isn't the main problem, your car just isn't making the power it should be. You should be trapping at like 90mph not 86-87mph. Knock sensor maybe? Do you have a 2000lb stereo?

BTW that is not your 0-60 time it's the 330' time. The drag strip measures time to distance, not time to speed.
Sorry it was my first time there,I was on the right lane and they cut the slip into half so I don't know what the # are for.So I was just asssumming. I don't have a 2000lb stereo.My car was mostly stock inside and out,except for the 16 inch 2k1 5 star wheels with nitto 450.Do you think my ks maybe bad?Can we test it without removing it?I don't have any code in my ecu 0505.Anyway how's your JW ecu working with the VI and how you like it?I am thinking about getting the JW ecu next.Thanx alot.
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Sorry it was my first time there,I was on the right lane and they cut the slip into half so I don't know what the # are for.So I was just asssumming. I don't have a 2000lb stereo.My car was mostly stock inside and out,except for the 16 inch 2k1 5 star wheels with nitto 450.Do you think my ks maybe bad?Can we test it without removing it?I don't have any code in my ecu 0505.Anyway how's your JW ecu working with the VI and how you like it?I am thinking about getting the JW ecu next.Thanx alot.
Im not shure if you posted about what rpm is your vi switched over at?
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psi was 36 front 33 rear, condition of my bfg tkws tires were about 50% thread left, 20lb 16's and had full tank of gas. Not to mention that it was my first day at a track and I drove through the water box accidentally at that run. manually shifted

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More data which is good.

You should lower your tire pressure to 22psi and reduce the wieght of your car as much as you can. Run with a 1/4 tank instead of a full tank. Don't smoke your street tires because they won't have maximum traction if they are overheated.
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Originally posted by Nismo


psi was 36 front 33 rear, condition of my bfg tkws tires were about 50% thread left, 20lb 16's and had full tank of gas. Not to mention that it was my first day at a track and I drove through the water box accidentally at that run. manually shifted

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The time slip you got is very similer to mine except after 10.xx you start to beat me. I though the VI suppost to get top end but look like mine is loosing top end. Anyway I got the 2k1 16 inch and I got like 3/4 of the tank and a tools box of about 50 lb in the trunks too.I don't know about the water box in our track,but they got water on the floor before you get up the line seem like you can't avoid it.
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Originally posted by Nismo


Im not shure if you posted about what rpm is your vi switched over at?
Sorry I got mine set on 5100 rpm.
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Originally posted by deezo
More data which is good.

You should lower your tire pressure to 22psi and reduce the wieght of your car as much as you can. Run with a 1/4 tank instead of a full tank. Don't smoke your street tires because they won't have maximum traction if they are overheated.
That was nismo post you got.Mine was 25/39 f/r ,and I will try not to smoke my tires next time.But I still think something is not right with my car,cause when me and spanishrice(steve) try our car one time from a stop or from a roll we were pretty much even.Isn't my VI suppost to walk him from the roll like 60> arrgg
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Originally posted by 96_vqmax
That was nismo post you got.Mine was 25/39 f/r ,and I will try not to smoke my tires next time.But I still think something is not right with my car,cause when me and spanishrice(steve) try our car one time from a stop or from a roll we were pretty much even.Isn't my VI suppost to walk him from the roll like 60> arrgg
Sorry I'm delirious. Time to go to bed.
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i dunnoe...u did better then chris...he was 18 sec...keke...
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Well what speed does the auto shift into 3rd gear at? Also what RPM does it drop to and what RPM is it at when you FINISH the 1/4 mile.
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Neal must be smoking the wacky-tobacky because HRP is at ~50' above sea level and Houston is only 25 miles north of the Gulf.

I'm seeing a bunch of reasoning why 96_VQMax was rather slow:

1) The MEVI without the JWT ECU does pretty much nothing to help an auto or 5 speed in the 1/4 mile.

2) It's his first time to the track and he only got to run twice. Remember how slow most of us were our first few times out?

3) It sounds to me like he had to do a lot of waiting in the lines to get a run in. That equals heavy heat soak which almost always sucks out ET/MPH.

4) His 60 foots aren't good and chances are his auto is shifting into 1st too early because of all the spin.


I wouldn't sweat it right now because I've raced with Travis (BSwithTF) who's got all of 96_VqMax's mods PLUS the JWT ECU and I've seen Travis pull mid-15s@88mph due to heat (70 degree weather) and complete lack of traction. Travis has pulled a 14.9@91mph with a high 2.2 60' on 17s. If people think their MEVI autos are going to run 14.4s like 96Sleepers, we're going to have a bunch of disappointed people around here.

I suggest getting the JWT ECU, work on lowering your 60 foot, and try and keep your motor cool. All that together will get you into the 14s.


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Neal must be smoking the wacky-tobacky because HRP is at ~50' above sea level and Houston is only 25 miles north of the Gulf.
I knew it was low but I didn't know it was that low. But I guess 700ft is kindof rediculous regardless being as texas is kindof out in the plains. My point was though that elevation wasn't the issue
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I've had 60fts all 2.4 on one night of racing. About 7 Runs and I've been running 15.7s constantly. There is something that is wrong too right. All I had was an intake.

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First off, not bad Frank. All I did was spin all night. My 60 footers were like 2.535 and so on. I was trapping at 92 though with a 15.2 E/T. I just can't seem to hook up. If you want, we can make another run on a Wednesday night down there so we can watch each others runs and see the times posted on the boards.

BTW guys, it was instant green night! I know R/Ts don't revolve around the tree per say, but it is a little more difficult. Can't see the tree falling and anticipate the green like on a regular tree.

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Frank, give me a call and we can see what we can figure out.
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Originally posted by 96_vqmax
That was nismo post you got.Mine was 25/39 f/r ,and I will try not to smoke my tires next time.But I still think something is not right with my car,cause when me and spanishrice(steve) try our car one time from a stop or from a roll we were pretty much even.Isn't my VI suppost to walk him from the roll like 60> arrgg
yea hehe thats mine. Why my tire pressure so hight you ask? I wanted to see how fast the car is with my everyday setup so that means I didnt change one thing to the car except empty the trunk.
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I knew it was low but I didn't know it was that low. But I guess 700ft is kindof rediculous regardless being as texas is kindof out in the plains. My point was though that elevation wasn't the issue
I'm just giving you crap


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Well what speed does the auto shift into 3rd gear at? Also what RPM does it drop to and what RPM is it at when you FINISH the 1/4 mile.
Like I say before this my first time out kinda nerves cause the first guys I run with was a 240sx his spraying and told me he did 14.6(but he was doing 14.9 when he run me)and the second run was with a 88-89 5.0 mustang lx(don't know what he run maybe low 14or something)so I didn't paid much attention to what rpm I land on what or drop,but just looking at the tach when it reach 63-6400 I shift(don't want to hit the rev limit).Maybe next time I will try to lower my front tire more to 20psi like 96sleeper did and paid more attention to the rpm.
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i dunnoe...u did better then chris...he was 18 sec...keke...
Yeah,I think his clutch give out on him or something was wrong with his trany.
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Originally posted by Dave B
Neal must be smoking the wacky-tobacky because HRP is at ~50' above sea level and Houston is only 25 miles north of the Gulf.

I'm seeing a bunch of reasoning why 96_VQMax was rather slow:

1) The MEVI without the JWT ECU does pretty much nothing to help an auto or 5 speed in the 1/4 mile.

2) It's his first time to the track and he only got to run twice. Remember how slow most of us were our first few times out?

3) It sounds to me like he had to do a lot of waiting in the lines to get a run in. That equals heavy heat soak which almost always sucks out ET/MPH.

4) His 60 foots aren't good and chances are his auto is shifting into 1st too early because of all the spin.


I wouldn't sweat it right now because I've raced with Travis (BSwithTF) who's got all of 96_VqMax's mods PLUS the JWT ECU and I've seen Travis pull mid-15s@88mph due to heat (70 degree weather) and complete lack of traction. Travis has pulled a 14.9@91mph with a high 2.2 60' on 17s. If people think their MEVI autos are going to run 14.4s like 96Sleepers, we're going to have a bunch of disappointed people around here.

I suggest getting the JWT ECU, work on lowering your 60 foot, and try and keep your motor cool. All that together will get you into the 14s.


Dave
So you don't think there was something with my VI or my car at all,it seem to be running smooth but don't know if ks would affect smoothness or not.I pull the vaccum on my car the other day and it read 19 in/Hg.You think it's too low?So did you know if Travis or anyone with the VI without the ecu run this low?Cause I was hoping maybe with all the mods I got I could have got low 15.? So what did run on Sunday?
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Yeah,I think his clutch give out on him or something was wrong with his trany.
Chris fried his clutch. I got to run him twice, and each time we pulled up to get our slips, all I could smell was clutch. Scared the Heck outta me the first time. Thought it was my clutch!

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Heh - my best time with a HAI, MEVI, and Y-Pipe was 16.226.

Granted, I had 18's on, and it was my first time at the track.
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Chris fried his clutch. I got to run him twice, and each time we pulled up to get our slips, all I could smell was clutch. Scared the Heck outta me the first time. Thought it was my clutch!

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Yeah poor Chris,I think he said he had his clutch don't about a yr.Did he got aftermarket or oem?
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Heh - my best time with a HAI, MEVI, and Y-Pipe was 16.226.

Granted, I had 18's on, and it was my first time at the track.
So I beat you hahaha j/k.So you had your VI before the S/Ced ?What was your best without the S/Ced and your 60' time?
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So I beat you hahaha j/k.So you had your VI before the S/Ced ?What was your best without the S/Ced and your 60' time?
http://www.cyberhub.net/manifold/timeslips2.jpg

My best time with the SC is 14.7 - but I had no aftermarket exhaust, a slight boost leak, and a big fat stereo in the trunk....to be honest, I think the stereo has been the biggest problem all along.

I'll see when I go to the track again, as I've now got a WSP B-Pipe, Stillen Exhaust, boost leak fixed, and won't run with the stereo or with the 18's.

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My best time with the SC is 14.7 - but I had no aftermarket exhaust, a slight boost leak, and a big fat stereo in the trunk....to be honest, I think the stereo has been the biggest problem all along.

I'll see when I go to the track again, as I've now got a WSP B-Pipe, Stillen Exhaust, boost leak fixed, and won't run with the stereo or with the 18's.

(And I'll be a 5spd)
No I mean w/o the S/Ced.And how the conversion going?
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No I mean w/o the S/Ced.And how the conversion going?
See the link above - that is without the SC.....

Converison hasn't started yet - the guy supposedly shipped the axles and flywheel out this week after 2 weeks of nagging him.



Doing the pedals April 12th, tranny April 19th-20th.

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Yeah poor Chris,I think he said he had his clutch don't about a yr.Did he got aftermarket or oem?
He had an OEM clutch put in. He pulled the receipt out after his first run and his warranty goes out in like 8 days. He was worried it wouldn't slip when he took it in for warranty work. That's when I told him to just rev and drop it a few times before he made it to the shop!

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