first time at the track and ran 14's
 

Went to the track over the weekend with some chicago people for the first time in my life..quite an experience

My best run of the day was a 14.723@94.62mph.
best trap speed was run with a 14.737@95.69mph

I also ran 14.85, 14.949, 14.972, 14.995, 15.00, 15.01, 15.1 and some other times I would rather not share(couple mis-shifts)

I have a 1995 SE 5-spd with only a homemade intake and a pacesetter short throw.

Just wanted to share.

Kiwon.

Congrats, those are awsome times!

if this is the same track that Chi99Limited ran 14.9 i am pretty sure now that its down hill :goofy:

Re: first time at the track and ran 14's
 

Very nice times! Did you dyno yet?

Shut it sprite, that is where I run too(14.6 @ 95mph):D

almost 96mph with only an intake...hmmm
If steele, AL that I run at is really a super track, then why did Veetec only start trapping that high when he got a y-pipe and intake. Even victim64 never trapped that high before y-pipe and his car is pretty fast. That track has to be downhill as stated several times.

I can't say this is unheard of. I ran a 14.8 @ 93mph in Montgomery AL. with only JWT popcharger and homemade midpipe.

you are missing the point.. this is his FIRST TIME AT THE TRACK

which means with a good driver his car could be 14.4/14.5

Chi99limited is running 14.9 .. ok thats fine.. not that i can't believe an Auto can run 14.9 but with his mods and a 2.3 60ft?

come on.. that means if he gets a 2.0 60ft his car runs 14.3? WTF?

look.. you are going to tell me that a 99 AUTO with exhaust mods runs 14.3?

something is up with this track. he ran a 14.7 (the poster of this thread) i am curious as to what his 60ft is. if its anything higher than 2.2 then something is up with this track. and look at his trap speed. Come on.. his traps are way too high for just an intake.

where the hell is Dave B when you need a good skeptic :D

Re: first time at the track and ran 14's
 

Good 60 foots, good ET, good MPH, good driving. Congrats.

I wish I would have taken up Neal's offer and drove 7 hours to Byron. I bet I could have come damn close to 13s.


Dave

Re: Re: first time at the track and ran 14's
 

where did you see 60fts? :confused: i must have missed that

Re: Re: Re: first time at the track and ran 14's
 

1/4 mile forum...2.25s 60 ft I think.

ok a 2.25 60ft ..

so with a 2.0 60ft he is looking at 14.3 ..

i don't know what to say.. i guess if Dave B isn't being skeptic i will jst shut up from now on out..

he's got a 95 SE, we all know 95s are freaky fast even when stock. :cool:

guys no matter how messed up the track is, he still ran a 14.7. leave him alone. Thats an impressive time with just intake. congrats!
-Paul

who is bothering him? :confused:

i am talking about the track. You notice i talked about chi99limtied also.. and if you looked in the general forum.. you would notice a picture of the track that is a "optical illusion"

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...6/fc62f806.jpg

It's not that the track is downhill, it's the nuclear reactor that is right behind the track. Refer to above photo. It has to have an effect, I left there with 11 fingers.

yeah! lets hear it for sum '95 luvin!

"optical illusion" :laugh: Am I going to have to bring out my survey equipment to prove that Bryon Dragway is indeed downhill, at least on the far end? I've done a lot of surveying and I can tell you that picture is definately showing at least a 1+% downhill grade.

The fact that ChiLimited ran a 14.9@94mph in his auto and 2kMax pulled a low 14.7@95mph (first time out) definately shows that this is a quick track, downhill or not. This track is known as a being quick and the conditions that day were VERY favorable to racing. Low 40s, rising baro pressure, and relatively low humidity only made things better for these guys. ChiLimited's and 2kMax's times aren't unheard of, but these are NOT the norm. They're anomolies. If guys expect this kind of performance out of thier Maxima's running on different tracks, they're going to be sorely disappointed.

Some tracks are just faster than others. Seeing I'm a complete gearhead and I get caught up in the numbers, I research this stuff. There seem to by about 8 tracks across the nation that post seriously quick times in comparison to the mods of the car (according to what I've seen at CamaroZ28.com, Corral, LS1.com, Maxima.org, ClubSi, New Celica.org):

Englishtown, NJ
Steele, AL
Maryland Dragway, MD
HRP Houston, TX
Bryon Dragway, IL
Sacramento, CA
Orlando, FL
Fayateville, NC

As you can see most of these tracks are at sea level (I don't Bryon is) and most of the tracks are near the coasts. I don't dispute the ET/MPHs people pull on these tracks at all, the truth is they're just more favorable to getting strong ET/MPH due to their location, conditions, and track prep. Take a good hard look at some of the quickest Maxima's in this Org and take note of how many are running on one of these tracks.


Dave

yea my timeslips are on page 2 of my homepage if you guys want to check it out. cool thing was i bet a friend that i can get into 14s that day and so i got a free dinner out of it. i wonder what i would run when i put on pole position s-03. I want to go back to the track again, i think im hooked.....only if the cash flow was good and i can mod my car every week...:laugh:

Kiwon

I posted in NWNissans a few months back asking for recommendations on tracks - Woodburn or Portland International Raceway.

The reply I got was "Woodburn all the way ... I run .4 quicker at Woodburn that I do at PIR !!!"

So there ARE quicker tracks.

I guess when it stops raining here in Oregon I'll try to head to both tracks - I've never been to a track so it'll be interesting to see if I can whip up some skeptical times :)

14.3 w/ 2.0 60ft with a 99 Auto with exhaust mod is not unheard of? :eek:

come on Dave.. even you can't pull this one over my eyes..

Kiwon I didn't know you hit 95mph traps, dang!

Here's the thing about the freaky byron track. It looks downhill to me. Downhill=faster times. BUT I ran almost identical times at 2 other tracks (this was back when I had my Y pipe only).

At byron my best with Y pipe was 14.46 @ 96.48.

AT US-41 my best with y-pipe was 14.50 @ 95.9.

At RT-66 my best with Y pipe was 14.51 @ 95.8.

The runs at Byron and US-41 were similar conditions, cloudy and about 60 degrees. The run at RT-66 was 85ish degrees and sunny and humid. Mods and weight reduction were the same. My times were within .05 seconds of eachother...

There was also a 15-20mph tail wind as well that day.

I looked at the weather back at jason's place it said winds 5-10 mph. 15mph is a STRONG wind and it would fully extend a flag, the flag was flapping but it wasn't fully extended. Anyhow I've run there with tailwind, crosswind and no wind and my times didn't change but my traps varied about .5- .75mph. Wind does not account for Kiwon's trap speeds more than about .75mph.

Byron is a fast track no doubt. But by the same token I drove Jamie's car (stock 4th gen) and it wouldn't do more than 15.1 @ 92...

yea i was consistently hitting traps of 94.x mph quite a few times. that 95mph surprised me as well.when are you guys planning on going back?

Kiwon

2kMax wicked job man...
i can't believe all these people are hating on your time

i hit a 95mph trap ON MY FIRST TIME AT THE TRACK WITH JUST INTAKE AND FULL INTERIOR WITH SPARE AND JACK AS WELL
and my track SUCKS! :(
so don't hate...he's telling the truth...its very possible

good job bro...keep it up :)

my God what is wrong with you people? who is hating.. we are just trying to make sense of the times out of the track :rolleyes:

its like no one can question anything on this forum.. no one can disagree with anyone on tihs forum.. someone always calling hate..

yeah i guess i should always say.. nice times.. nice car..

thats exactly what i was going to say

im just saying...the man went out...got an amazing time...better than most veterans...so it would be nice to show some gratitude and acknowledge his achievement

i guess you can do whatever you want...i shouldn't tell you what to do...but if i ran those amazing times and came back here to receive crap from the org...i'd be pretty disappointed

instead of saying he COULD have gotten a 14.3 or whatever if he could drive properly...maybe he did drive properly...and better than most of you at that

the track definitely influences times...but 14.7 with an intake is impressive at any track.

im not trying to argue with you...so don't take it the wrong way :)

His mods are I/E/Y/UDP. He ran a 14.9@94mph with a 2.3X 60 foot which is pretty amazing, but not unheard of because 96Sleeper has nearly all those mods plus the MEVI/ECU (6500 fuel cut) and he's pulling 14.4@98mph with high 2.1 60 foots. Chi99Limited will never get a 2.0 60 foot NA so there's no chance to get 14.3. If he got a low 2.2 60', he might be able to get a 14.7@94mph or so.


Dave

hmm i should take my car to byron and see if i can run a 14...:laugh:

I agree with much of what you said, but try to keep some things in mind here when people point to things like "it's downhill", "conditions were amazing", "it's at sea level", etc.

When people pull off times like these with minimal mods, people automatically start assuming it's because thier car is a "factory freak" or they're a "stellar driver". Sorry, but I really doubt the technology Nissan puts into the VQ is such that a few "freaks" make it out the door. Tolerances are just too close. Before the 80s, there were probably factory freaks and factory duds due to limitations in production tolerance, but not today. Look at the dyno forum and tell me if there are any factory freaks out there because I don't see them.

Driving is definately the key to good ETs, but when I see people pulling high 2.2+ 60 foots, it doesn't look the driver is that great. 2.2X 60 foots are good, but not along the marks of an excellent driver. Track prep also makes a difference. A low mph in relation to a low ET usually shows good traction and excellent shifting. A 14.7@92mph with a 2.1 60 foot would mean excellent driving and traction. A 14.7@95mph means poor traction and possibly slow shifting. I've run 14.4@99mph which shows my driving skills and traction off the line is poor. I admit it.

I can't speak for others, but I'm not trying to take away from the ET/MPH people run on some of the quicker tracks. I'm just pointing out potential reasons to why they're so quick instead of having to listen to this "factory freak" crap. If a quick track was located near me, you'd best believe I'd be racing at it. Downhill, sea level, flux-capacitor, whatever. I don't care. We're all in it for the fun and lowest ET and highest MPH. I run at a track in Kansas City which isn't known for good times, but I really have no other choice. When I had my Z28, my best time was a 13.7@101mph with a 2.0 60 foot in cold weather. I went to HRP with the same mods and in warm weather and pulled off a 13.4@104mph with a 2.0 60 foot. Hmmmmmm......




Dave

at exactly 88mph the necessary 21.1 gigawatts of power is sent to the flux-capacitor to send you back to 1983!

1985

:wall:

i love that movie

anything is possible. good job man! my st time at the track was suppose to be last friday, but i never made outin time to meet carvan upto HJ. Plus it was raned out, track closed:)

well i personally didnt see it as a bad thing when you guys were argueing so-to-speak about my times. I just saw more potential in the car. i had this car for about 5 months and this was the first time i really got to race it. hopefully i can improve my times.
guess thats what the org is here for.;)

Kiwon

Well my track is not on that list of fast tracks if i run a great time is my time going to be questioned and will my track be added next to the list:shock:
my track is at 1500ft

i totally understand what you're saying...
for example, the track i go to...well...it sucks
i did go on the last day it was open so it probably wasn't prepped properly, and it was very cold, but there was NO traction.
i'd seriously like to see these guys get a 2.2 60' at this track :laugh:

i just compare to other maxima's that go to the same track :)

hahaha that reminds me of this time i asked this kid at my school about his ricey-a$$ civic. he said "just name some stuff and i will tell you if i got it". i say, "intake", "got it", "exhaust", "got that too"..... i ended up listing a bunch of stuff.... and he said he would be getting a turbo soon and some $hit like that, and then i say "flux capacitor" and he said "i think ill order one in about a month" :laugh: i said "are you going to be travelling time or something? thats made up.... from back to the future"..... all he could say was "shutup dude" :D

anyways, where is this byron track in IL? does anyone know the city its in?

Byron, IL.