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Old Sep 14, 2000 | 08:37 PM
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To all of you who have had this unbareable break noise problem, I need your help. My brakes still squeek very loud. I changed the pads, shims, and got the disks resurfaced. What the heck is going on. Is this a common problem in the 95 model year? Can anyone please give me some advice on what can be done. Do I have to buy new disks or what? Any insite will be greately appreciated. Thanks.
Old Sep 15, 2000 | 05:04 AM
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Same problem. New pads are twice as loud as the originals. There has to be a way to fix this. My mechanic hates me.
Old Sep 15, 2000 | 06:33 AM
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yeah, it is persistent

i changed all my pads and shims and sprayed that brake quiet stuff, brakes are still screaming.
Old Sep 15, 2000 | 07:37 AM
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for this one. Well, I know that my brakes screamed early on--and on and off nowadays. The pads were put in about 4000 miles ago and at first they just squealed, squealed and squealed some more. For now, it has gotten better--I do get more squeals when the wheels are wet--but heck, I have tried almost everything to quiet these things down. I have to say that it is a bit embarassing sometimes to have these squeaky brakes.
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Old Sep 15, 2000 | 07:40 AM
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Some Nissan owners insist that you must use Nissan factory brake pads to avoid brake squeal. However, I've had good results with name-brand replacement parts such as Raybestos.

Be sure to apply the "blue goo" anti-squeal product on the steel backing of the new brake pads. Some brands of pads provide a tube of the goo in the box with the pads.
Old Sep 16, 2000 | 09:08 AM
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My brakes squeel in my 96 too. I replaced the pads but it doesn't really help. Some days are better than others. Soon, when I replace these pads, the rotors are going to go with them. They're a bit warped anyway. Hopefully with both replaced the squeeling should stop.
Old Sep 16, 2000 | 04:57 PM
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are you guys remembering to lubricate the pad pins with the PBC grease? The pins move in relation to the piston and can cause the squeel.

Honestly, I don't think you're doing anything wrong; it's just the Nissan pad itself :(
Old Sep 18, 2000 | 08:29 AM
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Same problem

i got the same problem
i just got
BRAND NEW ROTORS
BRAND NEW PADS
and it squeaks...
but my dumb *** used AC Delco pads so i could save $30 over the OEM nissan .. BIG MISTAKE
well this sat i'm gettin new rotors again ..(for free cuz i claimed these are defective) and OEM nissn pads..
my cuz is a mech.. and he said this is a common problems on max's
he said
1) use ceramic pads .. they are twice as expensive but they don't squeak and the added bonus there is no brake dust..

2) Stick with OEM nissan..

well i'll keep u guys posted on whether the OEM nissans do teh trick..
Old Sep 18, 2000 | 09:09 AM
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clips?

I posted a similar message a while back. I replaced all pads myself, then when the squealing occurred tried replacing front rotors but still did nothing to stop the noise. When I posted someone mentioned the metal clips that connected both pads around the rotor may be the culprit. I remember when replacing mine, one clip was broken on one side and I flat out forgot to put one on the other. From what I understand some non-oem pads do not even provide the small holes necessary in replacing these clips. Anyone know if these clips are really necessary or may be the reason?
Old Sep 18, 2000 | 11:42 AM
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MY 2 CENTS

When u replace pads 1. U should use OEM because for some reason other pads tend to squeal. 2. Be sure u use brake cleaner and spray the parts. 3. You might want to check your pads becomes sometimes the sensor may break causing premature squealing.
Old Sep 18, 2000 | 11:48 AM
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Ah how would a broken sensor->

cause the brakes to squeal any sooner than it would w/ a functioning sensor?

I use MetalMasters and my fronts don't squeal at all. Actually my Nissan rears are the ones squealing when they are cold.


Hey what is your car doing the 1/4 mile now?

Originally posted by KJ
MY 2 CENTS

When u replace pads 1. U should use OEM because for some reason other pads tend to squeal. 2. Be sure u use brake cleaner and spray the parts. 3. You might want to check your pads becomes sometimes the sensor may break causing premature squealing.
Old Sep 18, 2000 | 11:50 PM
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First, Don't use those steel shims.

You get the squeeking from the oscilation of the pistons(Steel) rubbing against the iron or Steel pad backing. The irregular groves on the rotor cause the pad to follow the groves, moving the pads up and down, rubbing the backing plate against the piston. This movement is almost undetectable by the eye, but causes the metal to squeel by the rubbing. The shims that come with the original pads are made of steel also, so they do no help, due to still being metal against metal rubbing.

In my experience, I have never heard the padding rubbing on the rotor, unless the rotor was rusty or had irregular grooving on it. This is not where the sqealing is coming from, use whatever pads you want!

Either buy the plastic coated shims, to eliminate any metal contact, or use brake quiet. If you use the blue goo, it says on the instructions to wait about 10 minutes for it to dry before install. Actually it is better to wait at least an hour for the glue to dry. It will become a hard shell on the back of the pad, as long as you don't use to much. If to much, it will take to long to dry. When you put that on the caliper wet, it eliminates 3/4s of the goo between the connections.

If your rotor is not too smooth, then you may want to turn them to eliminate the grooves. If it is grooved heavy, the pads will move around too much and wear away any goo, or shims that you put them between. Just make sure that if you turn your rotors that you use new pads, cause you can't resurface used pads properly!
Old Sep 19, 2000 | 12:30 PM
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Well good luck with your brake problems everybody.

As far as what I can do in the 1/4..........Well according to one of those GtechPro thingies 15.2 @ 91. Not blinding speed but an improvement.
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