Sup guys. I had a few questions for those of u who got the sprint springs.
i want H&R springs cuz they ride closest to the stock suspention but then again, u barely notice any drop with H&R so its kinda stupid spending 500 bux and still have a big wheel gap.

so here are the questions Sprint users !

1. Is the ride very hard when you go over bumps?
2. Which shocks u prefer the best to use with sprints? (considering ride quality and looks)
2. How many of your cars sit higher in the back cuz of the sprints? ( i've read about sprints being higher in rear than front).
3. How many of you are happy with the sprints and are not willing to change them and how many are?
4. how many of you think i should go with the sprints for looks rather than H&R for ride quality? (i know its kinda up to me but i have no idea how much harder the sprints are)
5. since you all have the sprints and have viewed em up and personal, how many of you think the car looks UGLY with sprints and 16" stock se rims?

Thanks alot and srry if this is a repost. any information is greatly appreciated !

 

i've driven in a car that had sprints compared to my h & r's and the difference is night and day its not as smooth you DEFINATELY feel every single bump/road imperfection with the sprints..... i have to get you a couple new pics cuz i think my h & r's did settle just a little bit more since those last ones i took, so dont worry i'll get those soon DoGGy!

 

oh and since ur car is an automatic the front will sit lower than mine does with the h & r's

 

so is it easily noticeable that the sprints are 0.6 inches lower than the H&R since u viewed em up close and personal?

 

I love my sprints. The ride is firm but bearable. They definalty handle well. I have them with KYB agx and ride real well. I also love the look of them

 

i've only driven on sprints and stock and all i can say about sprints is that it looks the best. I love the look (wheel gap is very minimal) and handling is wonderful but i hate the bumps and i hate the fact that i gotta watch how i drive due to bumps and scratching. However, most people that have driven my car are impressed because they think sprints are real bad and turns out its not as bad as they thought? I like looks but its stopping me from doing a lot of things i normally would have done to my car....

 

I got sprints and you really need to consider the trade-offs before you consider getting them... It's true that in an automatic the front will be about half inch lower than the rear... i personally think the drop looks like an american rear wheel drive muscle car where the front is low and the rear is high. It is very noticeable… Actually the drop in the Front is what I consider "perfect"... if only the rear can be lowered to match it!?!? I have no problems with scraping or bottoming out.

Prior to buying them I am use to the slammed ride (I previously owned a civic) so I was expecting worst but it's not as bad as I was expecting. You "will" feel every bump but it's bearable (imagine riding on a public bus but yet it’s a car with thinner rubber kinda stiff), but I’m also riding on agx’s set kinda stiff at 3 out of 4 front and 6 out of 8 rear. I actually wanted a stiffer ride than stock anyway. I also happen to discover a little info that might help u if u do go with sprints. Because of the excess gap in the rear I figure I would try and add some weight in the trunk to hopefully settle in the rear a little more as these are progressive springs and need to settle. but when riding with the trunk full of weight to balance the car, it handles very well and is not as stiff when riding over bumps!?! this maybe due to the fact that the car is balanced and that weight distribution is more even between the front and the rear to take bumps. Would other people with sprint setups try this and let me know? I'm only speaking for myself based on my experience and common sense really but I feel that if the drop is balanced with sprints (and agx) then it is an EXCELLENT balance of ride quality and drop!! Now, I don't want to remove the excess weight in the trunk cause it does look stupid funny without it once I gotten used to looking at it somewhat balanced.

Currently I’m considering getting one coil cut off the rear springs.. I “think” this would solve my problem cause if can get the weight distribution even then I’m good.. does anyone know how or where to get springs cut????? If you don’t want to deal with all this then go with H&R or if ur poor go with maxspeed. Granted I’ve never ridden in either setup in a max. My 2 cents.

btw i'm riding on a 98 auto I30 with 185/65-15 el cheapo rubber with kyb agxs 3f/6r setting and front bump stops trimmed 1"f and .5"r

pd

 

I just installed some sprints and wraggly tockicos in my 95SE auto, the rear feels light, the car handles and rides just fine. The roads here in Ga are pretty good. I did hit a pothole but it didnt feel bad at all. Assumption that the tockicos absorb much of the bump. In the front I myself consider the to be dropped just perfect since the auto tranny is much heavier. A correction to the rear would be to cut them which I should have done but due to the fact that I am going to use the 95SE auto max to travel, I am not going to cut them because the luggage will even out the car. I have not hit the freeway yet but itching to. From the cut springs and stiff adjusted konis the car handles much better thats in my 98 maxima.

 

I had sprints in the bumpy northeast. They loked great, handled great, but I drive alot and the commute is unbeable bcause you constantly have to lookout for potholes. I have koni's so I wasn't worried about blowing the shocks. I had that combo for around 10-15k miles.

 

yes its definately noticeable!

 

SO u can blow our yur shocks easily on potholes? Which shocks would u guys reccomend? (SOmething i want blow out & etc.,.)

 

Get sprints. Unless your like 40 years old or something.

 

does that go for all kinds of springs or just the sprints?

 

lol no, im only 19 and i pretty much know NOTHING about cars.

 

Sprint springs are all show and no go. They leave you with little to no suspension travel in your front end. No car will ride or handle safely with those springs. Several member have blown upper strut mounts using those springs as well. They can damage your cars strut tower if you hit something big enough.

Looks is one thing, drivability is another.

 

i like mine, awesome look, great handling compared to stock and even my eibachs...all in all a great combo with the AGX struts as long as you don't mind a firm ride.

 

all show no go, then why is it that there are members with very low suspension setups that have very fast maximas? I mean I am one of them with cut springs up front, I now ride on sprints/tockicos in my other maxima , I refuse to jump on the dont get sprints band wagon because there are bad roads or others dont like the way it rides which to me the sprints ride just fine, they do I dont see any problems. I will be visiting New Orleans with that 95 auto maxima and I will get the results and post them since that state has the most sh!tty roads ever. Also today my father drove the auto maxima with sprints he did not say the car rode like **** he only asked about why does the rear make a funny noise I told him is the rear springs they are a tad bit stiff specially since the auto tranny is a tad bit heavier then the manual.

 

I agree, I love the way the Sprints handle. They are stiff, but you have to relize that in order to really handle and perform the way lowering springs are supposed to and eliminate body roll they kinda have to be stiff. If you want a soft setup you should probably stay with an SE stock setup.
If your worried about feeling the road with stiff springs, dont even think about getting larger wheels with smaller series tires.
It kinda goes back to the old saying, "gotta give a little, to gain a little".

 

Ride height has nothing to do with speed. To go fast straight is easy. Try hard twisties at high speeds with roads that have real world bumps and dips in it. The sprint setup will throw your car around, thats not good handling by any means. Your suspension needs to absorb road irregularities and keep your car stable. The Sprint setup is a far cry from being able to do that. I've installed the Sprint/AGX setup in a few cars over the past year. They all ride like crap compaired to every other spring I've ever installed. Two customers have come back to me to have them removed as well. One guy kept blowing axles with Sprint springs on his car. You think that's a good setup?? Your better off driving a Kia.

 

Agree with you with the twisties part, if your going to do that, that will involve more then just springs/struts, you will need the famous frame connectors front and rear sway bars and so on. Now as far as uninstalling sprint springs, I know you do suspension installs but I have never had any one come back because they dont like them. If anything they have came back to get them cut in the rear or bring me the new Tein springs which lowers the new 2k maximas very evenly and they look very nice. The way I see it, is the way that man just posted up there you got "gotta give a little, to gain a little". I am a very picky guy and I dont see nothing wrong with sprint springs at least not yet, lets see what happens. Now the tockico shocks do soften the ride that much I can tell you and the rear springs are a tad stiff and you can feel it when you hit a bump it somewhat bounces a little, but with a adjustability of any adjustable shock that can be worked out with ones taste how they want the car to ride and handle.

 

I think somebody is a retailer for a certain brand of springs. We always have this argument. Nothing wrong with my sprints. And why buy springs if they only lower your ride like an inch. Whats that all about. You should just keep the stock setup on there. Guess its more of an age factor and to each his own.

 

Sprint can eat axles if combined with bad roads.

I have 1st hand experience. If you live in a large flat place with pristine roads (Like Vegas or Phoenix or something), then I suppose they could be OK.

They also feel pretty great when you first install them, but after about a year it's like someone is hitting your car with a jackhammer everytime you hit a small bump.

They suck.

 

I think thats only one account about eating axles. Mine was S/Ced and didnt have this problem, and yes we have bad roads here to. Maybe an odd occurance.

 

njmaxseltd is right though:

Picking springs based on performance is totally up to the track or road conditions you expect. Sprints may have the advantage on roads that look like glass, but pitch them hard into any real world corner with bumps and dips, and prepare to end up in a ditch.

The mechanics are pretty simple. The goal is to keep all 4 wheels (or 3, sometimes you lift the inside rear) on the ground without any suspension bottoming out. Bottoming out will literally "kill" you. When a suspension is riding on or hits a bumpstop in the front, the weight on that corner is increased dramatically causing the front to grip more and lift the whole side of the car causing the rear to lift and loose traction causing major oversteer. Same goes when your rear bottoms out, it causes the whole side of your car to lift, and lift your front causing major understeer. And worse off.... if you have shocks that don't dampen enough, your springs will oscillate causing understeer to oversteer to understeer reactions which are very hard to control or recover from.

And remember when pitching your car into a hard corner, your car will lean away from the corner giving you even less upward suspension travel on the outside set of wheels. Make sure you always have enough suspension travel.

 

I agree that you should go with some other spring other than springs such as H&R. You car may not have the real lowered look, but it definitely won't have the jacked up stock look. I mean its .6 inch difference between the 2 springs, thats really not that much. I have drop zone springs currently which drop 2 inches like springs and my ride is absolutely horrible. On top of it they sag in the rear just like the sprints do. They would look very nice if they didn't sag, but it is definitely not worse it to sacrifice safety and comfort for looks, at least from my experience. My car rides unbelieveably ****ty with 15's or 18's. One major factor you also should take into account is the road conditions in your area. Despite the fact that the town where I live is one of the richest in the state, the roads here are absolutely horrible, so this accounts for part of the problem, but you have to realize you may drive some place else where the roads are ****ty and then you will have to deal with the terrible bouncy ride.

 

Sprints do not sag in the rear. If anything they are higher in the rear.

Sprints are also not bouncy but stiff. You are right though about traveling somewhere new and having to deal with the conditions of their roads. If you have adjustable struts and shocks it shouldnt be too bad.

 

Sprints do not sag in rear, dont know whos car you been looking at?

 

sprints are awesome if u cut them and even them out from the rear and the front..


sorry i had no pic.. but darn my looks good!

 

if i get some 18 inch rims, would the wheel gap decrease? i mean, the wheel gap for 18" and stock springs would be smaller than 16" and stock springs, right? and by how much if so? 2" ??

 

I love my sprint. I'm sure lots of members love them too. The drop is one if the nicest one for the max once they have settle and they handle way better than stock (if you have the proper shocks)
Anyway the discussions of the sprints vs H&R can go on for days, and days, and days. So that what you think is best for you and the max. I've driven a max with H&R and tokico blues and I was not impressed at all. Besides non maxima owners didn't even think the car was lowered

 

One of the most even drops you can get that looks good.

 

ur car looks freaken sexy. someone answer my 2nd question plz !

 

Q: Which shocks u prefer the best to use with sprints? (considering ride quality and looks)

A: If you do buy the sprints, then I say buy adjustable shocks
KYB AGX are the most affordable adjustable shocks. They also perform very good and ride very smooth. Now if you have some extra $$$ probably go for the Tokico lluminas. They seem to ride much better than the KYBs and also perform much better.
I have the KYB and I'm very happy with them.

 

AGX for 350 shipped. Put them on 3 front and 6 back.


Thanks for the compliment...

 

lol thx for the info but i mean this question :


if i get some 18 inch rims, would the wheel gap decrease? i mean, the wheel gap for 18" and stock springs would be smaller than 16" and stock springs, right? and by how much if so? 2" ??

 

No if you have stock springs with stock 16's and decide to go 18, you will have an unsightly gap.

 

when you go UP with rim size you go DOWN with the tire

when you go DOWN to a smaller rim your tire gets BIGGER

If there is any difference at all in your finger clearance it wont be that noticeable

 

oh i see. thx

 

Well with 18's and with the tire 235/40/18 you may get a little more wheel gap then with stock 16's on 215/55/16.
Here are a few pics of my 18's with Yokohamas 235/40/18 vs my 16's on Mitchellin 215/55/16.
The pic that will give you the best idea is DSCN0429

click here for pics

 

it's one of those "sacrifice one or another" thing. IMO sprints are highly recommended if you don't live in bumpy areas, they'll look nice and handled-well WITHOUT those bumps. if not, then consider other springs that'll provide enough space for springs to travel against harsh roads.

like jay said, i don't believe sprints are ALL show NO go. i say for those people who are running sprints, just slow down a bit at harsh corner with bumps. make sure pair it up adjustable shocks and for flexibility, and add RSB and motivational rear mounts for extra aid.