Turbo or Air Ride and Rims
09-06-2003, 10:24 AM
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Turbo or Air Ride and Rims
i have a 1997 max se 5-speed and i dont know what 2 do i can get a turbo instaled 4 about 3000 cnd in town or i can go out and buy air ride and some 18's for about 3000 cnd so im stuck i wanna have a ride that will stand out and i dont know if i wanna start blowing all my cash on the engine when i could start on cosmetics and not have to spend as much cash, so i dont know what to do.
let me know what u guys think because we all know its not what hondas think its what your peers think
let me know what u guys think because we all know its not what hondas think its what your peers think
09-06-2003, 10:53 AM
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No matter what, your car will stand out. It'll either be the car that's all bling-blingin, or the 4-door that will blow away camaros.
Normally, i say jump on the turbo, but what's your engine like? How's the mileage, abuse, and maintence?
Plus, remember it's a lot easier to jack your rims than your turbo.........
Normally, i say jump on the turbo, but what's your engine like? How's the mileage, abuse, and maintence?
Plus, remember it's a lot easier to jack your rims than your turbo.........
09-06-2003, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Morsky
i have a 1997 max se 5-speed and i dont know what 2 do i can get a turbo instaled 4 about 3000 cnd in town or i can go out and buy air ride and some 18's for about 3000 cnd so im stuck i wanna have a ride that will stand out and i dont know if i wanna start blowing all my cash on the engine when i could start on cosmetics and not have to spend as much cash, so i dont know what to do.
let me know what u guys think because we all know its not what hondas think its what your peers think
let me know what u guys think because we all know its not what hondas think its what your peers think
Also keep in mind the problems that come along with a turbo kit. More maintenence and more problems, supercharger kits are more tested:
http://maxmods.dyndns.org/index.php?MaximaTurboKits
09-06-2003, 12:40 PM
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A full turbo kit for $3000 CDN? 
09-06-2003, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Morsky
i have a 1997 max se 5-speed and i dont know what 2 do i can get a turbo instaled 4 about 3000 cnd in town or i can go out and buy air ride and some 18's for about 3000 cnd so im stuck i wanna have a ride that will stand out and i dont know if i wanna start blowing all my cash on the engine when i could start on cosmetics and not have to spend as much cash, so i dont know what to do.
let me know what u guys think because we all know its not what hondas think its what your peers think
let me know what u guys think because we all know its not what hondas think its what your peers think
09-06-2003, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FLAVOR247
Turbo for 3000? Seems pretty cheap. Is that including intercooler,blow off valve, turbo timer and gauges? What about the labor?
3000 CDN seems cheap for air ride and 18s too. For 6000 CDN I would do turbo, air ride, and rims.
09-06-2003, 07:14 PM
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This wouldn't even be a question in my book. Go for the Turbo!!!!
09-06-2003, 07:37 PM
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Do whatever you feel you will get more out of. Don't make a decision based on other people. Your driving the car correct? Why should anybody elses opinion have any leverage on what you do with your money? If you want to go for looks, I would forget about an air ride and just get rims and some springs and shocks and save some money. Then you can put the leftover $ towards the turbo.
09-06-2003, 10:40 PM
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do you want to go really fast?
do you want to have a hot sexy car?
bags/suspension and rims would be what i would get
turbos rock and all but i'd do all the bolt ons and even consider juice before i'd have a turbo but thats me. bags are so cool. but thats me. go fast or pimp slow bro.
do you want to have a hot sexy car?
bags/suspension and rims would be what i would get
turbos rock and all but i'd do all the bolt ons and even consider juice before i'd have a turbo but thats me. bags are so cool. but thats me. go fast or pimp slow bro.
09-07-2003, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Torgus
do you want to go really fast?
do you want to have a hot sexy car?
bags/suspension and rims would be what i would get
turbos rock and all but i'd do all the bolt ons and even consider juice before i'd have a turbo but thats me. bags are so cool. but thats me. go fast or pimp slow bro.
do you want to have a hot sexy car?
bags/suspension and rims would be what i would get
turbos rock and all but i'd do all the bolt ons and even consider juice before i'd have a turbo but thats me. bags are so cool. but thats me. go fast or pimp slow bro.
09-07-2003, 12:13 PM
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I would get 18s and bags, but that's just me.
Dude,TURBO!!!!!Max's look good to start with,but get the turbo and show those v8's our best side THE BACK SIDE!!!!!!!!My 2cents.And where do i get one of those $3000 turbos?
09-07-2003, 10:07 PM
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You'd best know the ins and outs of turbo charging, the VQ, and automotive know-how. If you're lacking in any of these, you'll be sorely disappointed in a turbo VQ.
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09-11-2003, 11:35 AM
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i Live in saskatoon sask canada and there is a turbo maxima here. The shop that did it, i am buddy's withthe owner so he is giving me a little price cut the guy that had it don paid about 4000 and the whole kit is custom made. the max that has it right now is running 25 pounds of boost( he has all internals done) i have never meet the guy it has always been wrong time wrong place.
09-11-2003, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Morsky
i Live in saskatoon sask canada and there is a turbo maxima here. The shop that did it, i am buddy's withthe owner so he is giving me a little price cut the guy that had it don paid about 4000 and the whole kit is custom made. the max that has it right now is running 25 pounds of boost( he has all internals done) i have never meet the guy it has always been wrong time wrong place.
09-11-2003, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Morsky
i Live in saskatoon sask canada and there is a turbo maxima here. The shop that did it, i am buddy's withthe owner so he is giving me a little price cut the guy that had it don paid about 4000 and the whole kit is custom made. the max that has it right now is running 25 pounds of boost( he has all internals done) i have never meet the guy it has always been wrong time wrong place.
holy crap....sounds like hes pushing WELL over 500 whp. thats insane. you gotta get his number and tell him to get on the org. does he ever go to the track?
edit- BS
09-11-2003, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Morsky
i Live in saskatoon sask canada and there is a turbo maxima here. The shop that did it, i am buddy's withthe owner so he is giving me a little price cut the guy that had it don paid about 4000 and the whole kit is custom made. the max that has it right now is running 25 pounds of boost( he has all internals done) i have never meet the guy it has always been wrong time wrong place.
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09-11-2003, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Morsky
i Live in saskatoon sask canada and there is a turbo maxima here. The shop that did it, i am buddy's withthe owner so he is giving me a little price cut the guy that had it don paid about 4000 and the whole kit is custom made. the max that has it right now is running 25 pounds of boost( he has all internals done) i have never meet the guy it has always been wrong time wrong place.
Capital B ull Capital S hit
25 PSI with a turbo on a Maxima would be somewhere of 800 - 900 hp
tell your friend i said he is FULL OF ****
09-11-2003, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SprintMax
Capital B ull Capital S hit
25 PSI with a turbo on a Maxima would be somewhere of 800 - 900 hp
tell your friend i said he is FULL OF ****
25 PSI with a turbo on a Maxima would be somewhere of 800 - 900 hp
tell your friend i said he is FULL OF ****
ok it just hit me now that i have actually contemplated it. Definitly
with a capital B and a capital S
09-11-2003, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad-MAX_SE
ok it just hit me now that i have actually contemplated it. Definitly
with a capital B and a capital SDoes anyone know of any available for the max, minus the cams.
09-11-2003, 02:00 PM
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Um, if you're looking for reliability, air ride isn't the way to go. I promise you'll have more problems with that than you would with a well built turbo setup. Ask thebigsadler sometime. He's had air ride, twice, and now has a turbo. Ask him which he's had more trouble with.
And no way a shop built a turbo setup for a maxima for $4K canadian. What's that, like $2800 US? I could believe it for a cheap no frills kit, even then it's close. But fully built internals on 25 psi? That shop is so full of it it's unbelievable. The kind of equipment, not internals, just turbo parts needed to push 25 psi is very expensive. Can't just slap a turbo on and turn the boost up to 25 psi. I would never take my car to a turbo shop that makes those kinds of claims. It's just not realistic.
And no way a shop built a turbo setup for a maxima for $4K canadian. What's that, like $2800 US? I could believe it for a cheap no frills kit, even then it's close. But fully built internals on 25 psi? That shop is so full of it it's unbelievable. The kind of equipment, not internals, just turbo parts needed to push 25 psi is very expensive. Can't just slap a turbo on and turn the boost up to 25 psi. I would never take my car to a turbo shop that makes those kinds of claims. It's just not realistic.
09-11-2003, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FLAVOR247
I agree, Im still waiting to hear about the upgraded internals.
Does anyone know of any available for the max, minus the cams.
Does anyone know of any available for the max, minus the cams.
If you've got the money, anything is possible.......
The guy could have gone completely custom on the internal parts, cryo'd his tranny, etc.
I dunno. 25 pounds of boost does sound like a whopping load of BS, but i think it's possible.
09-11-2003, 06:06 PM
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It is very possible to run 25 psi on a maxima with the right parts and enough money. But not for the $4k canadian this guy is saying it cost. That's the BS flag. It would be closer to say $9-10K US minimum for all the necessary mods. Not including tuning, and some other stuff.
Originally Posted by fearthegecko
If you've got the money, anything is possible.......
The guy could have gone completely custom on the internal parts, cryo'd his tranny, etc.
I dunno. 25 pounds of boost does sound like a whopping load of BS, but i think it's possible.
The guy could have gone completely custom on the internal parts, cryo'd his tranny, etc.
I dunno. 25 pounds of boost does sound like a whopping load of BS, but i think it's possible.
09-13-2003, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Shadow
It is very possible to run 25 psi on a maxima with the right parts and enough money. But not for the $4k canadian this guy is saying it cost. That's the BS flag. It would be closer to say $9-10K US minimum for all the necessary mods. Not including tuning, and some other stuff.
What does 4K CDN transfer into in US dollars?
I know for a while hlh501's turbo kits were on sale for like $3400US.
the other thing is that he said the turbo kit cost $4000 CDN. He didn't say everything togehter cost $4000. The guy could've gotten a turbo kit to create all that boost, had it installed, and just kept the PSI low. Then, after he had the engine work done, cranked the **** out of the turbo.
09-13-2003, 08:01 AM
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$4000 Canadian is a little under $3000 US i think.
And even the turbo kit for 25 psi would cost way more than $4000 CDN. Neither PFI's kit nor Hals kit (especially not his) would put out 25 psi in their production version. The wastegate, fuel setups, intercooler, piping, and even the turbo used is not designed for 25 psi. At 25 psi, you're getting into hardcore speed freak territory. To support that kind of boost and power, IC's become $800+, turbos are $1500+, even wastegates are $300-400. It's a 3L V6, not like a WRX or Eclipse where you can see 25 psi on a small turbo without much hassle. Everything in the turbo kit would have to be changed out for more expensive equipment. To really do it, the parts would cost more than $4000 canadian.
And even the turbo kit for 25 psi would cost way more than $4000 CDN. Neither PFI's kit nor Hals kit (especially not his) would put out 25 psi in their production version. The wastegate, fuel setups, intercooler, piping, and even the turbo used is not designed for 25 psi. At 25 psi, you're getting into hardcore speed freak territory. To support that kind of boost and power, IC's become $800+, turbos are $1500+, even wastegates are $300-400. It's a 3L V6, not like a WRX or Eclipse where you can see 25 psi on a small turbo without much hassle. Everything in the turbo kit would have to be changed out for more expensive equipment. To really do it, the parts would cost more than $4000 canadian.
Originally Posted by fearthegecko
What does 4K CDN transfer into in US dollars?
I know for a while hlh501's turbo kits were on sale for like $3400US.
the other thing is that he said the turbo kit cost $4000 CDN. He didn't say everything togehter cost $4000. The guy could've gotten a turbo kit to create all that boost, had it installed, and just kept the PSI low. Then, after he had the engine work done, cranked the **** out of the turbo.
I know for a while hlh501's turbo kits were on sale for like $3400US.
the other thing is that he said the turbo kit cost $4000 CDN. He didn't say everything togehter cost $4000. The guy could've gotten a turbo kit to create all that boost, had it installed, and just kept the PSI low. Then, after he had the engine work done, cranked the **** out of the turbo.
09-13-2003, 11:07 AM
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Whats kev running these days??
Whats the highest PSI tested out on the turbo's that most of us know of?
Aren't most people sitting around 6-13psi?
Whats the highest PSI tested out on the turbo's that most of us know of?
Aren't most people sitting around 6-13psi?
