Sorry, I have been searching the forums for full headers and I can't seem to find any information on its actual gains in performance. I know cattman announced they had new full headers in these forums but I never saw any dynos or anything. I ask because I am deciding whether to get a y-pipe or full headers.

 

pm SteVtec. he has dynos, dynos, and geuss waht more dynos

 

Not for headers since there arren't any. Well there is one by cattman and it shows minimal gains over a y-pipe...

 

I think one of the guys with FI should get headers, I wonder how much HP headers will let loose if Fi gets involved?

 

well, if your getting a turbo, obviously dont get catman headers or something. Supercharged guys would probably see some nice gains, but i dont know about NOS

 

i wouldnt say thats the bottom line. your not going to spend 1,000 dollars on something that makes 1 hp (im not saying the headers are 1,000 bucks, or only make 1 hp, just an example) yes its MORE power, but its relative. Is the power worth the cost? in many cases, a Y pipe would suffice... vqpower had some results and dyno info

 

touche. the thousand dollars spent on that +1 horsepower could be well spent on other mods that make more power.

however, If one were to go all out, the potential power gains from the manifold --> the y-pipe/exhaust will never be made without replacing the headers.

In other words, we could argue about this all day, but IMO, I'd rather spend 750 dollars on headers, than 400 on a bodykit... but that's just my opinion, and flame all you want but everyone has their own.

 

so yeah basically to that.

 

I think Cattman summed it up nicely. He said something to the effect that the header mod is for those who either have a lot of money to burn, or have exhausted all the other options for hp gains and have nowhere else to go. Not a good value for a first mod for hp, for a bone stock Max.

 

On the contrary, if you have no intentions of stopping at any point, it would be stupid to buy a ypipe, and then turn around and buy headers. Keep in mind the cattman headers include/replace the ypipe. And my max is bone stock, other than a cai, and headers is the first thing I plan on replacing. If you are going to do something, do it right the first time, don't do it and turn around and do it again. It's just like buying 'coilovers' and struts, then being dissatified over time and upgrading to full coilovers. If you have the option/means to do something right the first time, why go the cheap route just to spend the same amount to upgrade later.. you are only spending more in the long run.

 

Wait, what? Don't get headers if you're bOOsted? I think you got that backwards...

 

Sorry, I wasn't doggin on body kits, I was just saying that people spend so much money on cosmetics that get negative horsepower gains, yet people still debate a good mod that makes solid power? I sense a little bitterness, that the headers weren't available a couple of years ago, coupled with the fact that people have already spent 200 or 300 dollars on a new Y-pipe

 

Yeah, see I just don't know what to do. I have $700 right now and I just got a job, so I will start making some descent cash. My Maxima is all stock and I want power. I am pretty much going strictly power..maybe get some nicer wheels later on with a drop. Thats about it though.

 

Actually I have made my mind up. I am going y-pipe and maybe an injen CAI intake. Hmmm or maybe I should just go y-pipe and skip out on the intake.

 

I think that's what I might do, but I might leave the B off for now. Anyone running a Budget CAI right now? Just wondering how it compares against Injen and Place Racing.

 

true enough, if I have the money I will, but CAI and Y comes first. Plus, Budget will install for free, so I can come back at another time. (I"m Canadian, I live within 1.5hrs of Budget Exhaust.)

 

not what i said. full headers (from engine down to B pipe) are fine for NOS and super charged. but for turbo you need to get your wasted exhaust gas from the headers. so if you buy non turbo full headers (the topic of the thread, so i assumed he meant the new full headers, ie: cattmans) you cannot run a turbo...

 

Does the Cost of labor for HEADERS Justify the HP result? In my personal opinion, the y pipe with ecu and exhaust is probably better. I dont see myself getting headers when my y does just fine.

 

Hit the nail on the head with that one Flava427! I pop my head into the 5th gen discussion forum now and then and there's 2 guys there that have actually lost power from header installs. Granted they were using Stillen headers on 3.5 VQ's, which is a different deal. But they did do before and after dynos,comparing to an aftermarket Y in their baseline dyno runs. For our 4th gen, Cattman has made 16hp with headers over a stock Y pipe and precats. Hardly amazing numbers. That Nashua Night guy was gonna post dyno data before and after header install of the his headers. After the post install dyno was done he magically disappeared and never posted the results! Must of been great gains there too. Until somebody posts some conclusive dyno data that headers give appreciable gains over Y pipes, I wouldn't consider the header route. But hey if there's folks that wanna drop $750 +$400 install on a set of headers it's your choice. But please do a before and after dyno for yourself and the members of the org to show us what they do!

 

the rear set of headers...not worth it. You pay someone else to do it, and its going to be insane. I remember when Nashua made a set of headers, and got the estimate for install time, it was like 6-9 hours

 

Now Thats Crazy!

 

Ok, I know not to get the Cattman headers (Turbo here) as he incorporates the downpipe into the design of the headers. It's a full set from the block to the B. BEAUTIFUL work... but not for turbo'd Max's.

Isn't there a set of headers that will bolt up to my turbo downpipe? We can use all the exhaust flow we can muster.