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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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straight exhaust kit

im lookin to get the straight exhaust kit instead of a full cat back. anyone have the straight exhaust? you feel a difference? was install easy? how does it sound? how much did it cost ya? and where did ya get it? any input would be great .
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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Straight through exhausts and glasspacks are generally loud and sound like very buzzy just like a lawnmower and will drone when installed on a maxima. You'll sound just like every other fixed up civic with holes in it's stock muffler.

Catbacks also have very little gains at all. If you want information about real exhaust systems and performance mods:
http://maxmods.dyndns.org/?MaximaPerformance
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 02:36 PM
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Drew you site is greatly appreciated (I have it favorite placed) but c'mon give him a decent response....

Ok my friend has had his total exhaust redone in stainless steel. Cost a pretty penny, though. 2.5 inch piping all the way through even that piping that goes around the spare, without a cat. He paired it up with a Magnaflow Muffler.

That damned thing is LOUD! People think he is flooring it all the time but when he does.....WoW......can hardly hear anyone talking, there's alot of yelling in the car when he floors it.

I wasn't arpund when he did this.....I couldn't tell you if the car really gained a lot...All I know now is that he runs a 12.6 but that was not just with exhaust...if that were so we'd all be running 12's...but none the less...

All comes down to personal prefernce. What do you want? A Loud @ss car for attention? A decent performing street racer? Do you really want to annoy neighbors? If you don't give a crap go for it.
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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I dont meen to be a biotch....but its bad enough putting a y-pipe on your car....

And concidering having straight pipe is not very good for the environment, or for your checkbook if you get caught... OR FOR PEOPLE WITH ASMA LIKE ME.....

I live in cali so our emisions are ALOT stricter but for the sake of your future kids (unless you want them to have breathing problems...) i wouldnt sugest doing it...

All it does is make you sound like a damn ricer and u get wha? barely any extra hp...its a change but not enough...

Im not telling you what to do...but honestly think about what your state is gona look like (let alone the whole country) 40 years from now....yea your gona be one of the people that contributed to it...

Having a y pipe is bad but not half as bad as running straight pipe....

Just my 2 cents...
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 06:00 PM
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Geez, it's not like our maximas put out that much smog without a cat. In fact, they don't put out nearly as much as those big redneck trucks I see riding around here.......Someone is an environment freak!


The newer engines in cars run SO much cleaner than the older production engines did, and a straight pipe isn't going to make a difference for the environment. Look at the facts first before deciding what is good and what is not.


And BTW, there is no hole in the ozone layer.



Here come the flames.


I know for a fact that the skies aren't going to be blackend becuse of someone's straight pipe........There will be a nuclear disaster far before a straight pipe ruins the envonment.
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by XeroX

And concidering having straight pipe is not very good for the environment, or for your checkbook if you get caught... OR FOR PEOPLE WITH ASMA LIKE ME.....
Must be pretty serious asthma if you know how to spell it...
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 04:24 AM
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I was thinking the same thing
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by wickedmax
im lookin to get the straight exhaust kit instead of a full cat back. anyone have the straight exhaust? you feel a difference? was install easy? how does it sound? how much did it cost ya? and where did ya get it? any input would be great .
personally here's what i think, and also some facts for you:

[general performance analysis]
1. maxima gains most HP from a y-pipe and an intake.
2. replacing the cat with any high-flow cat or straight pipe will give you maximum 1 HP.
3. any catback will you no more than 7-10HP with a combo of y-pipe and intake. without y-pipe and intake, the gain will be less.

[general sound analysis]
1. any exhaust components pair up with a good quality resonator will decrease the sound of rice.
2. any leackage on your exhaust system will increase the sound of rice.
3. straight exhaust kit will have the sound of rice.

[general installation analysis]
1. doesn't matter what system you go for. it will be a bolt-on, bolt-off application. if you are mechanically skilled, it shouldn't be a problem for you with proper instructions. if you are not, ask an experienced to help you out. or go to a local autoshop who works with exhaust to help out.
2. http://www.seas.ucla.edu/~cheston/home.html is a great site for many "how-to". cheston is a great guy with awesome write-ups. i enjoy it a lot

[general cost analysis]
1. http://maxmods.dyndns.org/?MaximaPerformance
2. http://www.ebay.com then search for "maxima" under ebay motor
3. it really depends what brand you go for, what system, since you didn't nace anything specifically, go search.

the above answers simply reflect your questions. and please read the 4th gen FAQ thoroughly. good luck
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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Well i dont have that bad of "Asthma" and i was at werk trying to be sneeky by posting up a QUICK post, not really trippin bout spellin gangstas... didnt know this was english 101.... but N E WAYZ...

I work for the Air Resources Board here in cali....and it does make a BIG difference in emitions.... And like a said im not telling you guys what do to or not to do,

To be quite honest i really dont give a F*** what you do with your car, its just that some people are quite ignorant with the fact that they think it doesnt do THAT much harm, but in the long run it does.... Thats why when you go get smoged it doesnt pass, and thats why its illegal, its not illegal because they dont want you to get an extra 1 horspower its cause it pollutes the environment...

As for the rednecks...er...ya they kinda **** me off with all these ***z with huge v10s that dont even carpool and use the so called POWER....to take their boat out to the river like once a year lol, so if im really flaming anyone its the rednecks...

Im just informing you guys that its not very reasonable to do it...and IT IS BAD FOR AIR quality...

Wether it be a lil or alot it really doesnt matter, its just that much extra polutants in the air...

what is it (im guessing about the amount of water)....You consume like 4-8 liters of water a day....but you consume 12k (Yeah thats a "K" for thousand) litters of AIR everyday..... so next time you think about poluting the environment only a "lil" think about all the people that do the same thing, in the long run you do contribute to the smog....

But like i said this is just something to think about b4 you go ahead and do it....
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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Just a comment on emissions. There are lots of parts of the world where CATs, emissions, and vehicle inspections are not mandatory. Most of South America, Mexico, while its nice that we do have cats and we do have the greatest # of cars but even in the USA some states have no emission laws...I personally think it doesn't matters either way. I’m no expert on this, but as I remember correctly, cow **** greats more 'green house gasses' then cars, or at least a considerable amount. and if you really wanted to solve the problem, or Anyone did for that matter, we would all be using electric cars or something along those lines, but we don't because cars, gas, and oil, are a huge part of our and the worlds economy, if there was no need for the stuff it would be chaos. That’s why the people with all the money throw as little as possible into it imo. As long as you have cars you will have pollution oh and the fact that we are making a trash dump of our country isn't helping either....

just how i see things. feel free to argue or flame.
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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thanx happyricefob, im kind of a newbie here, and at the risk of sounding like a dumbass...what do you mean when something sounds like rice?
anyways does anyone know of a good muffler and tip thats "cost effetive" and sounds clean 9im going for the deep growl kinda sound)
and happyricefob, is what you're saying that im not going to get ANY horsepower or smoothness from a new muffler, UNLESS i get a y-pipe and an intake? thank guys for your help, im glad i didn't buy the straight pipe
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 02:05 AM
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http://anti-rice.com/
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by wickedmax
thanx happyricefob, im kind of a newbie here, and at the risk of sounding like a dumbass....
it's okie, everyone was once a n00b as well. the only n00bs are people who doesn't effectively ask question to learn or grow, rather than flaming and bashing other people without any knowledge to back it up. although they might have more posts than you do, but they probably dont' know sh*t about their ride. very sad...

Originally Posted by wickedmax
what do you mean when something sounds like rice?
rice sounds = all show no go, basically they just have a big exhaust tip which does not increase performance, rather for show and fart.


Originally Posted by wickedmax
anyways does anyone know of a good muffler and tip thats "cost effetive" and sounds clean 9im going for the deep growl kinda sound)
i have personal experience with magnaflow muffler. it sound very clean, not too much "blaaaah", but rather a "vroom" like a domestic V8 exhaust system. a bit of deepness from 2,000rpm-2,500rpm. other magnaflowers on maxima have shown HP gains. therefore IMO it's a good muffler. so highly recommended

for other mufflers, please refer to drew's site >> http://maxmods.dyndns.org/?MaximaPerformance

Originally Posted by wickedmax
and happyricefob, is what you're saying that im not going to get ANY horsepower or smoothness from a new muffler, UNLESS i get a y-pipe and an intake? thank guys for your help, im glad i didn't buy the straight pipe
case 1: here's two dyno chart. the first one has the dyno chart of 1995 maxima SE with intake and y-pipe at X amount of peak HP. the second one has the dyno chart of same car with intake, y-pipe, and a catback system. the dyno chart shows that the catback system has gain 7-10HP over the X amount of the peak HP over the combo of intake and y-pipe.

case 2: here's another two dyno chart. the first one has the dyno chart of stock 1995 maxima SE at X amount of peak HP. the second one has the dyno chart of the same car with a catback system installed. the dyno chart shows that the catback system has gain 5 HP over the X amount of the peak HP over stock setup.

question: why does "case 1" catback system gained more than "case 2" catback system?

answer: since "case 1" previously had an intake + y-pipe before the catback comes in, therefore it already have more air-flow. with the additional catback system, it completes more exhaust flow through the entire exhaust section, with the accompany of intake to suck more air which allows more air to go in&out.

since "case 2" is stock, adding a catback system only allowed the rear section to free up, but the pre-cat still stock (y-pipe). maxima pre-cats are EXTREMELY RESTRICTIVE. without the assistence of an aftermarket y-pipe, the catback does not benefit as much. therefore the gain is less.

yes, adding a muffler will increase performance. how much? i don't know. every car varies. but all i know is the performance adds up. so i say start with intake and y-pipe, because they provide the most performance gain.
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 01:15 PM
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damn! thanx happyrice, you've been the most helpful to me. i hate it when people come and flame my question just because im ignorant to the answer, they just ***** up my thread when they COULD be helping out a little. i mean people c'mon that IS the point of a question...
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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Is that a CAI or just some racing intake (like the one's on E-bay)
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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is what a CAI?
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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is what a CAI?

Cold air intake
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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i mean what are you asking when you say "
Is that a CAI or just some racing intake (like the one's on E-bay)
"
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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Yeah... I have heard good reviews on Apexi and greddy.... (probably the best from what i have heard).....as of magnaflow and flowmaster im not sure and havent heard that much....

Apexi is comparable to the greddy but its cheaper ....er...i think, check it out and do some research on those 2 brands....might interest ya...

Although they might run a lil high in price i think you will get the most out of those 2 brands than anything else....

I dunno just my 2cents, never personally heard either one but i have heard ALOT of good things about both... mostly more on the Apexi
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