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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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OBX coilovers and camber questions

ok, so a friend of mine and myself are friends with a local performance shop and since we give them a good amount of business we are starting to enjoy the spoils and get cheaper prices. so since we both have maximas they qouted us on obx coilovers and front camber kits for $207 a person. i know this is a good price and i want to do it. my question is how low does these actually go they say 0-4 inches but i was wondering if anyone has a picture of them and how low they went. thanks

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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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no pic, but if i were you i'd stay away from obx coils. they are rust prone from what i remember, but in FL it may not be such a big issue... make sure u research them as best as possible
Old Jan 18, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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thanks thats what im trying to do right now, i wish i saw how low they went, i want to tuck my wheels. if all else fails they will give me and JIC products at cost because there a licensed dealer and havent ordered from them for over a year now and that means FLTA2's for 1060 out the door. but that would really hurt me financially so hopefully someone pulls through on pictures or experience on the obx coilovers.
Old Jan 19, 2004 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by aspec0002
ok, so a friend of mine and myself are friends with a local performance shop and since we give them a good amount of business we are starting to enjoy the spoils and get cheaper prices. so since we both have maximas they qouted us on obx coilovers and front camber kits for $207 a person. i know this is a good price and i want to do it. my question is how low does these actually go they say 0-4 inches but i was wondering if anyone has a picture of them and how low they went. thanks

scott

That is a good price for OBX coilovers and a camber kit... I don't have any pictures but I will tell you that they do not go 4 inches down. The strut spring perch gets in the way as it would with any sleeve type coilover, I would say they maybe go down 2.5-2.75 inches at most. They are not rust prone at all... I live in Colorado and the climate is harsh, I have crossed the Continental Divide many times and the springs show no signs of rust. They are a harsh ride so be ready, also pair them with a good strut.

BTW: Wheel tuck is not going to happen.

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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Bomb
I don't have any pictures but I will tell you that they do not go 4 inches down. The strut spring perch gets in the way as it would with any sleeve type coilover, I would say they maybe go down 2.5-2.75 inches at most.
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So OBX, GC, and other sleeve type systems only go down 2.75" at most? That's very good to know. That's not very low and probably not in the correct range of travel for the strut. I intend to set my Cattman's at 13" from hub-fender lip. That's about a 3" drop from stock SE height of 16".
Old Jan 19, 2004 | 06:45 AM
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Wait a minute, I am speaking from experience, You will get around 0-4+ inches of drop with coilovers. I had some arospeeds on my honda, and some weapon r's on my max, In the honda I was able to tuck RIM. In the max, the way I had it set up, I could barely tuck tire. Go figure, go to this directory on my webserver to see some pics of my car dropped and raised up, and dropped with the 19's. I had my car slammed so low with the coilovers that my mudflaps would rub on just about everything. go here:

http://casa305.sytes.net/maxine/

by the way there are tips and tricks to getting the maximum drop from a coilover system like using only one of the collars, instead of both, btw, using both isnt necessary. secondly on alot of honda's people would knock out the little spring perch on the rear shock, then flip it over and slide the sleeve on that, and that also lets the coilover sleeve sit about .5 to 1.5 lower. So with the right knowledge and amount of work invested you can sit 0 - 6 inches depending on setup. Let me know.
Old Jan 19, 2004 | 06:56 AM
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In addition, if you look at some of the pics on that page, you will see the top of the tire being tucked in the rear, and that wasnt even the lowest I could have went. To back that up, measure the height from ur fender to the top of your tire, and see how much inches that is, then look at my pics, and estimate how much inches I am sitting at on 19's which maintain the same o/d as stock steelies.
Old Jan 19, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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Just remember, OBX coilovers will need shocks. Your stock ones would probably only last a week that way before they blew.

Also prepare for very very bad handling and dangerous emergency maneuvers when you are dropped that far and are riding on your bumpstops. JICs are really the only way to go if you want to tuck tire.

FYI you might want to read this:
http://maxmods.dyndns.org/index.php?SuspensionSelection
Old Jan 19, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Show Maxima
by the way there are tips and tricks to getting the maximum drop from a coilover system like using only one of the collars, instead of both, btw, using both isnt necessary. secondly on alot of honda's people would knock out the little spring perch on the rear shock, then flip it over and slide the sleeve on that, and that also lets the coilover sleeve sit about .5 to 1.5 lower. So with the right knowledge and amount of work invested you can sit 0 - 6 inches depending on setup. Let me know.

I know very little about doing Honda suspensions, so it might be very possible and is most likely easily doable because you see so mant honda tucking their wheels and scraping going over every bump. Those tricks you mention wouldn't work on a Maxima, there is only one collar on the OBX coilovers, not the usual two that are designed to be screwed together. I don't know what you mean about knocking the spring perch off the back, but last time I was under my car the shocks in the back we securely welded together inclucing the spring perch. I remember somebody tucking their wheels on these type of coilovers by getting the spring perches cut off and rewelded on. That would work but it also means that you take away all the suspension travel because the strut body length stays the same and the strut piston would be fully compressed all the time quickly destroying the strut. One thing that might be possible with the Ground Control coilovers os ordering shorter springs, the OBX ones come with 7 inch springs but I believe you can order 6 inch ones from Ground Control. That would lower you quite a bit. Hope this helps.

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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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SHOW MAXIMA, i have a good amount of experience with coilovers and cutting the spring seat on the strut, just was wondering how low they actually went without the cutting. i think your car looks really good slammed like that. how much you asking for those alessio's? thanks
Old Jan 20, 2004 | 01:00 AM
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not true coilovers

Any type of coilover, such as these obx's, that are just the sleeves (must buy shocks separate) are not a good idea. They are a cheap solution to wanting to lower your car. Key word: cheap. Make a decision, do you want adjustability? If yes, then buy full coilovers. I have seen some for around $1k. I know this is alot, but you'll have full adjustability. If you don't need adjustability, then just buy a good set of shocks (can be adjustable) and springs.

I have heard and read about several horror stories about people using obx, as well as other sleeve coilovers. They can break, and at best everyone said they rode horribly. I live in the midwest and the roads are crap so I could not deal with this. Pearsonally, I don't like cars that are slammed because they lack the function of drivability on any roads that are not perfectly smooth. I guess it is up to you since you're spending the $, but just think about the decision.

Sorry for the rant, just putting in my 2 cents
Old Jan 20, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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I agree...Don't go half A$$ on coilovers. Either stick with traditional springs/struts or get coilver with threaded strut body. ie JIC, Cattman
Old Jan 25, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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ive been eyeing those tein s-tech for a while now... anyone have some for sale?
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Umm, I didnt cut anything in the rear of my car when I had the coilovers installed. My system wasnt heavily modified to work. The rims I wanna sell for around $900, but the rims will need 4 tires, as 3 are bad, and 1 is flat.

the_bomb,
you are right basically, i think some versions of our oem shocks in the rear had the perches pressed on as some hondas.

2, If you ride slammed on coilovers, you will definetly destroy any type of strut whether they are kyb or oem. Its just a matter of time. But coilovers are a very cost effective to way to ride around town at your set - aligned ride height, and then on the weekends you can lower your car to the ground, pimp it, and then have fun, all in a matter of minutes. I would recommend coilovers paired with a good shock/strut combo.

Lastly guido32, I have yet to hear of horror stories on coilovers??? Maybe it was just your friends who installed wrong. Any aftermarket coilspring is subject to breaking, not just coilovers. Anything man made can be taken apart, i.e. broken.

I hope this was informative.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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hey show maxima what do you mean by.......


by the way there are tips and tricks to getting the maximum drop from a coilover system like using only one of the collars, instead of both, btw, using both isnt necessary. secondly on alot of honda's people would knock out the little spring perch on the rear shock, then flip it over and slide the sleeve on that, and that also lets the coilover sleeve sit about .5 to 1.5 lower...............please explain in more detail, im very interested.
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