Okay, the point of the cf anything is weight savings. Right? Well, how much weight does a cf little lip actually save? Because it doesn't look as good as a painted one.

 

Why is the only purpose of CF for weight savings? I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that people would STILL buy CF hoods for show cars if they weighed exactly the same. Buying lips for ANY car isn't for weight savings, it's for looks and looks ONLY. There's no performance involved because these products haven't been tested in a wind tunnel.

Leave the damn guy alone, he likes the CF lip, as do tons of others, you don't, who gives a flying hell what you think of HIS lip?

 

I think the lip looks odd on a non dark coloured car. Almost rice.....
I say almost cause I know the lip would look great on a dark coloured car (especially black)

On any other colour than black =
Btw does anyone have a pic of the lip on a black max? It looks great on that white max with white rims (but again.....does not fit with the rest of the car)

 

I think it looks hot...

but why use your sig in EVERY post of one thread?

 

How is that even remotely relevant?

 

IMO it looks extremely odd. The only way IMO this lip can look good is on a black car that already has a cf hood. Other than that, the lines/texture of the lip make it look really out of place on a light color car. Sorry but that is just my opinion.

 

man what the H ell ..i need something new for my car ...andy sup with my cf door panel thingies..i forget what the hell they are called?

 

Well, they are supposed to be in every sig of every thread.

Dont be hatin on peoples sigs cause you dont have one

put yours up, you know you want to.

 

you mean Door Pillars???

 

I caused a ruckus! Mission acomplished

 

i dont like it at all. looks so outta place. if i got a carbon fiber anything i would paint it so no one would no it was carbon fiber.

 

Then you should just get fiberglass.

 

You are right and I totally agree with you on most you have said. Fiberglass is good, but isnt CF stronger?

 

CF can be woven to be REAL strong. Unfortunalty the weave we are getting for the hoods/trunks/lips are not weaved as thick and tight.
Its mainly being produced for the weight and looks.

 

i dont understand why people just cant buy a mod that is just for looks. I like the way the lip looks and if i had cf on a car that wasn't black i would paint it, but thats just what i like. You guys are yapping rice this, and rice that, we have so many things rice on our cars that for some reason has become common: dash kits, wings/ spoilers, clear corners could all be looked as being rice since they dont increase the power out put of the car, but we should not forget that we dont drive race cars and we should do watever we like to it as long as we r happy.
so rock the lips and the orange corners

 

dont forget to post pics

 

Sure thing cheif....

 

"It doesn't matter what you do to your maxima, you'll always be clowned on" ~jdmmax

Best quote ever...

 

good quote, its unfortunate its true

 

hey i said that





i like it like that

 

thats why its been my sig for the past..... month?

 

Calm down, formz. I was not trying to get anyone's panties in a wad. OKAY?!?

I was merely asking if cf was still used merely for weight savings or not anymore. I guess the answer to that is that it is not. It is more (and probably always was for) for cosmetic than anything else. That is fine.

I personally think it looks sweet on Flavor247's white with white wheels, and maybe on a black car, but that is just me. I don't think the color of beige goes too well with that grey/black color. I don't really like the look of cf hoods either. I think they look rice...just my opinion though.

**I guess I am going to have to start putting a disclaimer in my sig about everything being my opinion, and that opinion does not necessarily represent the opinions of shareholders or operators, etc......you know, like they do for movies**

 

No you were insinuating that the only point of CF is for weight savings. Which it's NOT.

 

Right. Let's start some logic discussion here. Carbon fiber was developed to be a lightweight replacement to steel or other metals in racing applications. Of course, it started to trickle down to the public because it really is better than anything else out there. The whole reason that people think carbon fiber looks "cool" is because it carries with it the status of being "race-like" or something similar. I've seen 78 Trans Ams with carbon-fiber looking dash applique, that everyone here would think looks gaudy -- that's because its cheap and is only for cosmetic appeal.

My opinion is that if you're going to use carbon fiber, do it for yourself and your car, not for everyone else to see that you're such a badass you put in carbon fiber lugnuts. To me, the point of CF is completely defeated when you use it in addition to another material (swell dash kits), or in place of a lighter material where the structural rigidity is not a concern (front lip). Carbon fiber hood is awesome to me, but of course, if I had one I would paint it before it ever got anywhere near my car.

That is all.

 

You're right it USED to be for weight savings, and still is in some instances. But as this post demonstrates, a CF lip is not only strickly for looks, it actually adds more weight to the car.

 

okay, formz, how bout you tell me what I meant...since you know what I am thinking and was inferring in my posts. I clarified myself and went on from there.

BTW, what in the world kind of sense does it make to say, "But as this post demonstrates, a CF lip is not only strictly for looks, it actually adds more weight to the car."? Where would be the advantage?...........if it is not strictly for looks, and it is not for weight savings...it is for weight addage....common? ha

 

Um.. you obviously didn't read what I wrote OR what you typed. Saying "a CF lip is not only strictly for looks it actually adds weight" is saying people buy them just for looks, but it also adds weight. You failed reading comprehension as a child didn't you?

 

It wasnt soley developed for race applications. True carbon fiber is used in many applications from race car parts to airplane parts to artificial limbs, such as legs.
Its true design is to have a strong structual form, such as a metal but without the weight.
I feel many people like it, or think its "cool",(such as myself) because of the the actual look of the weave when reflecting light. Not because of its "status of being race-like or something similar".

 

I realize the only purpose for CF is not automotive uses, but those are irrelivant for our conversation. If it were really true about "liking the way it looks", many people would have other strange materials all over their car. I believe that if carbon fiber wasn't seen as a status item now, as a result of its performance, no one would want their cars to have any strange "pattern" on them. Think about it..

http://transamtech.com/pics/dash/dash_74_8track.jpg

That's the T/A dash I was talking about earlier. Anyone with that in their car looks like a horse's *** now. But if that's what carbon fiber had to look like, I'm sure that you'd see it all over the place. I stand by my previous statement, and you're all full of poopy!

 

I may be a post *****...but I aint no sig *****...

 

 

Why is it irrelivant, your the one who stated "Carbon fiber was developed to be a lightweight replacement to steel or other metals in racing applications"

Any way, as far as people not wanting their cars to have any strange "patterns" on them, they do...their called GRAPHICS, and lots of people have them.
I understand many people have different opinions on CF, but I support my original statement refering back to the subject of painting the CF.
The CF that is made available to us is just as strong as fiberglass, if you want light weight and plan on painting it, go with fiberglass.

 

Irrelavant: Not relevant; not applicable or pertinent; not bearing upon or serving to support; foreign; extraneous; as, testimony or arguments irrelevant to a case.

Meaning someone who has a carbon fiber leg has no bearing at all about what we're discussing. That's why its irrelavant.

Vinyl graphics on a car are one thing, but to have a whole panel with a pattern on it is very different. I like diamond-plate steel, but I sure as hell dont want my car made out of it.

The CF is MUCH stronger than fiberglass, and its also heavier than the polyurethane ABS plastics that are used for most body kits; so, if you want everyone to see that you have CF, and your nuts swell when you look at it, then that's for you. If you care more about performance and utility than useless vanity, you go with the ABS. It's a matter of taste, as I said before.

huzzah.

 

hmmmmmm love the way cf looks personally. if i wanted to save weight the stillen kit would not be on my car.

$3000 dollar paint jobs, $200 graphics/flames, $100 dash kits, $50 shift ***** blah blah blah.

all pure cosmetics and by some peoples definition of "rice" all of these things can be considered rice. none of them add to the performance of the car. just makes the car look better. but its funny how a paint job is not considered rice but a cf lip is considered rice. both serve no purpose other than pure cosmetics.

by the way andrew what made you step in on this cf useful or useless thread. was it cause don told you to?????

this is one thing i think about.
a co worker and domestic gear head i worked with once asked me.

him: "hey why did you put a cf hood on the car?"

me: cause i like the way it looks. save weight to..

him: well yeah it saves weight but it also takes weight of your front tires. Being that you have front wheel drive wouldn't you want more weight up front to help with traction???? with my nova i was always trying to put more weight on the rear tires to help with traction.

me: hmmm never thought of it that way. ok fine i like the way it looks

him: ok thats kool then.

we were refering to drag racing. it does kind of make sense. thats why the weight saving strength never was the selling point selling point for me was the way it looks.

and plus flavor do you really care what a mustang driver thinks of your car or what we do with our maximas????? i sure as hell don't.......

 

He works right by me. He was walking by and saw me looking at the pics of the thread he said "that looks so gay dude" I said "yeah". He happened to read something someone said (flavor maybe?) and thought they were completely stupid and he said "I have to reply to that, he is a jackas" then went back to his desk and began typing. I know he cruises .org maybe because he is extremely board, or if it is because he now knows the Maxima is better than the SHO. I think he truely did love his VE 5 speed when he had it, but it just didnt have that raw power. No matter what he cannot escape his ties to the Maxima world.

 

oh ok

well dosen't matter what he thinks as long as alfonso likes it.

 

wow. I really think that is the smartest thing that has been said throughout this entire thread. I dont think anyone can say anything else.

 

Right that's what I said in all of my posts. Painting the car and having carbon fiber is a little bit similar, with the difference being that every car on the road has paint on it. I file the CF lip in the same category with a bi-aluminum wing -- if you like the way it looks, its swell, but if you're looking for anything other than that, you're just silly.