SR20DEN way to go!

 

SR20DEN, Around How much do the VQ35 sell for used. Would it be more benficial to swap the 02-03 motor (255) or the 04 motor(265)?

 

How much do you think a project like this would run?

 

You wish My inbox is constantly cluttered with questions from fellow owners. I will admit I am hated by many though and most of the reason many hate me is because I prove them wrong.

I am more than willing to give credit where credit is due and I think you've accomplished a lot, but do I think you'll be running 13.2s at other tracks? No and I don't think your car's or BluByu's performance is remotely close to the norm. Your mods are minimal yet you're running ET/MPHs in line with what bolt-on LS1s are doing at most other tracks in the nation. I also firmly believe The Rock is an extremely quick track. Hell, go to Newcelica.org and you'll read about guys running 14.1s@99mph with mid 2.2 60 foots in their 02+ Celicas with nothing more than a CAI/muffler at The Rock. I believe one of those guys were there the night you ran too. Sorry, but 14.1s in a 02 Celica GT-S with just an intake/exhaust is about as normal as a bolton Maxima going 13.2s@107mph Until I see a dyno of your car showing about 260fwhp, I'll continue to believe that your track is just quicker than others. No one has to believe me. I don't require it. I'm just giving my opinion.


Dave

 

I get the feeling that whenever Ceaser runs with the MEVI and slicks, we could be looking at the new NA record, or close to.

 

Ceaser is my friend and all, but I saw the NA 4th gen record get broken today and Ceaser has got a ways to go.

 

Id love to put a VQ35 in my car when the VQ30 chernobyls! I hope its possible too!!

i30mike- whats the new record??

 

It was not me who broke it so I won't say. There is vids, slips and all though. I will say that the person who did it broke a personal best on the same run

 

wow you are quite the politically correct one! (J/k man, I respect that. But curious to know, ya know?)

 

Again I say I will go to other tracks and still run consistant 105 -106 mph trap speeds. And how many tracks do I need to do this at before you realize that it's no fluke? The bolt on LS1 cars are often at that track and many of them are getting the SAME numbers as me. I have even outrun a few of them.
Two years ago when I only had and intake and a UDP I was running 96mph all day long and Blu would do 93mph all day long, but did anyone say the track was exxagerating our speeds then? No, because it was 100% in line with what everyone else was doing. And actually I was overall a little slower than everyone else. But now both of us have managed to set our cars up and get enough practice to make them perform much better you seem to have some vandetta on calling BS on us.
I am more than willing to make a trip to MIR or some other track to post similar numbers. Are you going to call BS on that too?

 

The 255 (240) motors would go for cheaper because there are more of them. And no one has proven what the true differences are at this time so go for what you get the best deal on. I got mine for $800 which was a pretty good deal at the time.

 

Well considering nobody has run at all with Matts mods b/c he has a few things done that no one else has I don't get how you can compare his times to others. Before he did any out of the ordinary mods he was running the normal 14.2-14.3 @ 96-97 at Rockingham and nothing was ever said about it being a fast track. Now that he is running untouchable times compared to any other n/a Maxima the track is all of a sudden lightening fast. Also how many 02 Autos have ran with my mods that you can compare to?

I just got done searching the celica boards and found one guy (just one) that has ran a 14.15@97 at Rockingham in 40 degree weather with I/H/E and LSD dumping the clutch at 7000 rpms. Impressive yea but for the abuse he is putting the car through I don't see what makes Rockingham so unbelievably fast. Next time Im at the track I will make plenty of video to show you nothing out of the ordinary is run at Rockingham, but of course once you see this you will call everyone a bad driver.

One more thing it seems you're so bitter about Matts times but you never seem to say anything about Neals times. I might be dreaming but I don't think he has dynoed any higher than any other 4th gen on the board with equal mods but is running over a half second faster than the 2nd fastest N/A 4th gen. Weird isn't it? I'm in no way discrediting Neals times or calling his track fast b/c Im not one to become bitter and stoop to the level of yourself to make myself feel better.

Now where is this research you were talking about having on Rockingham, I'd like to check it out, or where you talking out of your a$$ again? First it was research and now it is just firm beliefs which means as much as the $hit NT2SHBBY posts.

Matt

 

you are a dumba** and i would love to say i could leave it at that. however, with such a comment i feel the need to flame away. let me tell you something friend... rockingham dragway is NOT a "fast" track by any means. it is just like every other track in the country. it has the potential to be a great track when they want to prep it properly (ie. big events) and test and tune is hardly a big event. if anything the track SUCKS for street cars fwd and rwd. most of my friends dont have their best times at the rock. if anything both matt's could improve on their street tire times at another track like moorseville 1/8th or fay. you are such a tool


13's are your goal.... when you hit 13's sr20den will be in the 11's lmao good to know you shooting for the moon

dont be mad because he is faster than you... i mean dont hate the car or the man, hate the track LMAO!!!!!!!!

i wouldnt come if my car was slow either, its ok i would back down if i owned a slow max and sr called me out at my own event haha

 

k stop right there, because that was THE only intelligent thing you have said since i started reading this thread.

two freak cars one auto and one m6,two matt's,both run at rockingham... kind of freaks me out. lol they run the way they do because they spent money with good products with proven background,have great tires, and oh yeah can DRIVE. get over it..

that is just an asinine statement. i seriously have no comment to that. i have never seen a cel do that with cai and muff. if your theory was true then i would be running 10's and should have friends in the 9's like it was cool. track didnt make the times. ill say it again the drivers/tires did.

maybe you dont get that his car weighed like 2900lbs, it MORE than believable that he ran those times and mph with only 240+ range power. i have seen other cars with lot more weight with little more power on tires go that.

 

you being served hater steak with a side of non believer soup. just push it away bro.

 

As soon as I saw his time posted (sr20den's) I thought his NA max time was the one to beat, no ?'s asked.
I dont care if its 7000ft above or below sea level . The time you get is the time get.

 

I love reading Dave B's posts, very informative.

Im not thinking that.

 

I'm going to attemp this engine swapping project as soon as my research is complete

 

Wow That is toooo cool. Please take good notes

I gotta admit I know almost nothing about what you are going to be doing. Out of curiosity, will you be using any of the 96 components?

Obviously Im thinking ECU, Headers/ Downpipe? air box probably have to be 5gen

Ummm lets see what else that I can think of ...
nothing at the moment...

Are you shooting for keeping the y-pipe and b-pipes?

 

Well I'm going to convert everything to 5th gen(ECU, 6spd Tranny) but I'm mainly want to swap becuase I'm going to boost the VQ35 with a custom turbo. I know its going to take time and alot of research but I'm willing to do it with no problem, if its possible.

 

btw 96sleeper is the fastest auto n/a before he converted into 5spd...

 

What was his times before and after 5spd conversion?

 

The more I think about it the more I realize that you're doing me far more harm than good by flaming him. I invited you here to offer some extra insight into Rockigham Dragway, not flame away.

 

Something occurred to me just now reading this and it might sound like my being a "naysayer"- Im not- cause I think it would be awesome to have a 4th gen frame around a 5th gen powerplant... but it occurred to me that you can save a lot of time and money while still obtaining alot of power by just throwing a turbo on your 4th gen engine... Still could be sick fast for what, maybe three thousand less? Just a thought- Im still hoping you blaze that new trail.

-E

 

Converting to the 5th gen Engine, 6spd tranny and Ecu is only part of the project, I'm also putting a custom turbo setup in once I get everything situated with the swaps. I was also thinking about building the VQ35 up and then installing it with the turbo already in the works, but that would take a little longer and more $$. I'm looking to boost mid to late summer. We'll see what happens.
I'm not the only one doing VQ35 engine swaps, there a few membera on the board that are going to do it also and some already are in the mix as we speak.

 

thats what i was thinking because i found a wrecked 2003 3.5 se with 6spd im working on a deal with the owner but when i asked here for any info i got roasted so if anybody knows something or has something to share let me know as far as i know the only limitations i found was money becasue everybody complaint of parts need for swap where to expensive but what if one find i complete car(wrecked hit from the back ) like i did it has a great engine 38+k miles 6spd tranny all harness even xtra stuff like interiors 3wheels(17") even parts for resale like hood headlights etc... and hes almost willling to sell it to me for 2k(is a bargain here in puerto rico) he is asking 2800 what else can i ask the only thing can is gonna be lots of time spend on swap i know is not easy but maybe i can be the first

 

I was kind of hesistant myself posting on the org, because I though I wasn't going to get any feedback and flamed on. Even though I don't post that much I've been on the org almost every other day since 2002 and have a fair understanding of the Max to post BS threads. But anyway, I would say that offer you got is a steal, take it! The engine alone might run about $600-900, and you're getting the whole car for $2800? Shiyyt, I would by it in a heartbeat! The swap is going to take time, because so many things have to be accounted for, The Tranny, ECU, Engine, Wire harness and Guages. Its alot to do but you'll be a very rare 4th gen with the 5th gen power plant under the hood.

 

That would be awesome. I would love to do that. However, right now, my max is a daily driver and I could not set it aside. Maybe in the future.

 

What the heck is a newb like you spouting off at people that have been around here forever about?
I don't get that?????

 

This is probably the best thread ever. 3.5L swaps, running 13's N/A was fast, drama!

 

It was fun reading back through it but you do realize it's over 2 years old and way out of date right? lol

 

well DandyMax is running 13.1 N/a VQ30, so he claims.. Haha damn I didn't read down far enough, Dandy is a god.

 

I think they had this thread on A&E last week.

 

Apparation: that time SR20 posted was old...

The current N/A leaderboard (if I'm not mistaken) is:

#1: Jime - 4th gen auto w/ 3.5L swap - 12.5@111
#2: SR20DEN - 5.5 gen 6-spd (3.5L) - 12.85@108
#3: DandyMax - 4th gen 5-spd 3.0L - 13.13@104.41
#4: 96sleeper - 4th gen 5-spd w/3.5L swap - 13.2@103
#5: Krismax - 4th gen 5-spd w/ 3.5L swap - 13.31@101.96

Except for me, those guys all have VQ35's. I fully expect 96sleeper to move up to #2 or #3 soon. SR20 will also get faster once he's finished a couple planned mods. And Krismax could be a lot faster if he'd get his car set up better and/or finished mods.

My apologies to anyone I may have missed... (feel free to edit)

 

well IMO you deserve 10x the respect because you've got half of them beat with .5L less.. imagine what you can do with the VQ35 if you've achieved this with the VQ30, at least that's how I look at it.

.. and I'm still awaiting that mod list, and/ or thread.

 

check this out, kinda like pulling out an old photo album ! these japanese muscle cars keep on gettin fasta !

 

Yea I knew the age, thats why I bummped it. Its a great read. Its nice to see how far many of you have gotten in a short time.

 

yeah, a pretty interesting read I must admit. Drama Drama Drama .....

 

You are too kind. I am planning to put a VQ35 in next year, just haven't decided whether to stay N/A with it or boost it.

DIdn't I PM you a list? I thought I had. Also I have posted a mod list 2 or 3 times in a few different threads lately but here you go:

 

spaniard ur back! i thought u disappear man....