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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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Lug nut removal

What is a good way to remove the lug nuts? I have just the standard tool and I am having trouble getting them off....any suggestions?
Old May 19, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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I have one of those "X" shaped lug nut removers - makes it much easier to get the lug nuts off and on.. I don't know if its going to help you get any more torque - to break free tight lug nuts... try put a piece of pipe (2 foot or longer) or something similar over the the end of the standard tool so you get more leverage/torque... I've seen some people stand on the lug nut wrench and kinda bob up and down to exert force to break them free - that would probably work - but I'd be afraid of shearing the actual lug/stud from the hub...

You are trying to break them loose while the car is on the ground right? that usually helps to keep the wheels from spinning...

One more thing - soak them with a penetrant, e.g. PB Blaster and try after that...
Old May 19, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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First of all make sure the wheel is on the ground and not in the air spinning. Yes, many people do that and then come here asking questions. The standard tool should be enough as the lug nuts are only supposed to be torqued to 100ft/lbs. If you're weak then I can't help you.
Old May 19, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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HAHAHAHAH!!! i know it supposed to be on the ground and im not that waek but i don't wanna strip it or anything....I think that last shop tightened then way to much cause I have tried 2 different tires and can't even get one off.....how much is a power tool to get this done?
Old May 19, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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yeah just set it up and kick it. there is a point where you should just go to a shop and get them loosened with an air gun. if you kick it a few times hard it shock force should get them. the rule of thumb is if you thinks you'll break it leave it the ***** alone. they were put on with an air gun so they are tight. when you do get them off put some grease on the bolts so they don't stick.
Old May 19, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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I think a quicker/cheaper alternative (if your car is driveable) is to go to your local gas station/service center/tire shop/muffler shop and have them break the lugs loose for you...

FYI, a good compressor & impact wrench will run you maybe close to 400 bucks... or something around there...
Old May 19, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by thekenone
when you do get them off put some grease on the bolts so they don't stick.
Grease.. umm no.

Anti-seize... maybe.

The right answer: don't let the shop over-tighthen them.. or get home and loosen them and re-tighten them using a torque wrench... it will make your life easier next time and keep your rotors from warping... (too much torque/uneven torque on the lug nuts can lead to warped rotors).
Old May 19, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick7455
What is a good way to remove the lug nuts? I have just the standard tool and I am having trouble getting them off....any suggestions?
Wipe the sand out of your vagina and try again.








Seriously, I have had that happen to me (I bench-press 300+ lb.), so don't be embarassed. I took the wrench and put it on the lugnut just higher than parallel to the ground on the "9 o'clock to 10 o'clock" position and stood on the handle. I only weigh 155, but a few small bounces was all that it took to break it loose.

If that does not work, I think you may have to take it to a shop.
Old May 19, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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Prolly turning the wrong way.. MOst companies use torque sticks to put your wheels on anywayz. So it should be exact.

Hahhaha

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Old May 19, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by phenryiv1
Wipe the sand out of your vagina and try again.
Funny stuff. ha ha

Really, Do your own stuff with your wheels. That way, you don't have to worry about them overtightening the lugs.

Do like everyone has said....just loosen while it is on the ground.
If you need to, stand on it like phren....
Old May 19, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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I bought this lil thing at walmart that plugs into ur cig lighter and it loosens it...works great....now since im done paintin my calipers on all 4 wheels i can go take it back and get my $$$$. Fukin dealership -_- (always gotta use lotta torque)
Old May 19, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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That's not too cool.
Old May 19, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Brudaddy
That's not too cool.
Second that opinion... remind me not to trust you in the for sale/trade forums...
Old May 19, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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I was j/k LOL
Old May 19, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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im a stander :| i just set up the wrench and basically jump up and down on it. bet it looks stupid, but oh well.
Old May 19, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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I'm surprised that anything that plugs into the lighter socket is and powerful enough (draw enough current from the lighter socket) to generate the torque to undo those lugs (if they were indeed as tight as you suggested)...
Old May 19, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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You can buy a thing mechanics call a breaker bar. It it basically a long handled rachet without the ratcheting action but rather with a swivel socket head that only moves side to side (hard to explain). The added leverage the long handle gives makes breaking any nut loose very easy.
Old May 19, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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NJMODI that exactly what i was thinkin and i was about to not buy it but thought what the hell....that thing is soooo powerful for 12 volts...it is amazing.
Old May 19, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc
You can buy a thing mechanics call a breaker bar. It it basically a long handled rachet without the ratcheting action but rather with a swivel socket head that only moves side to side (hard to explain). The added leverage the long handle gives makes breaking any nut loose very easy.
I hope you wrote that with a sarcastic tone cause everyone here knows what a breaker bar is. Everyone calls it a breaker bar, not just mechanics. For something as rugged as lug nuts don't waste your money on a breaker bar. Like someone said before use a pipe or something.

Glad you got it off.
Old May 19, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Big D
I hope you wrote that with a sarcastic tone cause everyone here knows what a breaker bar is. Everyone calls it a breaker bar, not just mechanics. For something as rugged as lug nuts don't waste your money on a breaker bar. Like someone said before use a pipe or something.

Glad you got it off.

Actually, no sarcasm intended. You'd be surprised at what some people do not know here. I don't assume anything, just try to be helpful in my own little way if I can. I've never not been able to break anything loose with my breaker.
Old May 19, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Stupid a$$ mechanics have overtightened my lugs 3 times. Costed me 70$ total to get my wheel studs fixed after snapping them in half.

Yeah, get a Tire iron and breaker bar...itll help and speed up the process a lot.
Old May 19, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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Well that is why i didnt wanna stand on it...in fear of breakin it...this lil 12 volt car plug in drill is crazy convenient!
Old May 20, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ludacris
Stupid a$$ mechanics have overtightened my lugs 3 times. Costed me 70$ total to get my wheel studs fixed after snapping them in half.

Yeah, get a Tire iron and breaker bar...itll help and speed up the process a lot.
Next time that happens, ask me how to change them yourself. I think it is even easier than putting in new pads. Very simple...


And I think I would feel stupid plugging something into the cig lighter and using it on the lugs. I would not feel like a man if I could not even figure out how to break them loose with some elbow grease.
Old May 20, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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Next time that happens, ask me how to change them yourself. I think it is even easier than putting in new pads. Very simple...
Won't happen anymore (*knocks on wood*) since I don't go there anymore. The new guy I go to makes sure I can still take them off by hand after he tightens them..
Old May 20, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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Other than the balancing and alignment of your car, you ought to do that type of wheel stuff on your own. That is like the easiest stuff to do....wheel stuff. Changing pads, rotors, calipers, rotating wheels....that kind of stuff.
Old May 20, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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well im 17......I don't know that much about the brakes, rotors, caliper......wish someone would explain it more thoughly but i dont wanna go messing with it and break somethin
Old May 20, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by phenryiv1
Seriously, I have had that happen to me (I bench-press 300+ lb.), so don't be embarassed. I took the wrench and put it on the lugnut just higher than parallel to the ground on the "9 o'clock to 10 o'clock" position and stood on the handle. I only weigh 155, but a few small bounces was all that it took to break it loose.

If that does not work, I think you may have to take it to a shop.

.....i do this technique too if the lug is overtightened
Old May 20, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick7455
well im 17......I don't know that much about the brakes, rotors, caliper......wish someone would explain it more thoughly but i dont wanna go messing with it and break somethin
Get a haynes or chiltons.

I started from nothing at one point as well. You just have to take your time and ask the right questions.
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