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Old 09-24-2000, 05:30 PM
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What modifications help low end? I have noticed that everything is for high and mid range.
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Old 09-24-2000, 11:10 PM
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Low End Torque modifications

Here is what won't give you more low-end torque and will probably reduce your low end torque:

Stillen K&N Intake Kit
JWT Pop Charger Intake Kit
Weapon R intake kit...

Don't know about the CAI... it depends on the diameters they use for their intake tubing and "cone" air filter... If it is of an excessively large diameter like the above options, then you'll probably lose some low end torque...
But I don't really have experience or know anybody else who has said the CAI helped out the bottom end...
On another note, do you really want to risk a very expensive hydrolocking of your engine just to gain a few extra horsepower on the top-end?


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Old 09-25-2000, 05:09 AM
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hydrolocking?

Please explain what that is.
Thanks.
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hydrolocking is something that happens when you suck water into your engine, and for some reason people seem to think this can actually happen with a CAI during normal driving even thought there's no way in hell it can.

I've said it many times before, I'll say it again, <b>you are not going to suck water into you engine with a CAI unless you drive through 1+ ft of standing water</b>.

As to the question at hand, there ain't much that will give you more low end other than an engine swap. But do you really need low end? The maxima's strong point is the low end torque, the upper rpms are where it dies off and needs power. It's hard enough to get traction at launch as it is.
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if you want better low end go with the Cattman Y-pipe its gonna give you the most noticable power... and then add A cat back for better flow at high end. I put in the CAI and no big deal, stock is a bit faster though
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The CAI did not give you any gains? Stock was faster!?
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Old 10-09-2000, 08:09 AM
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B-pipe and RT cat....

Upon adding my B-pipe, I noticed a very nice increase in lowend torque from idle to 4000 rpms. It is important that you don't use the Courtesy provided extension. You'll need to fabricate a straight extension (this is what unlocks the power of the Courtesy B-pipe). Greg P, Alex KC, and myself are the only that have done this "straight" extension and we all agree this is what makes the B-pipe perform. Last week i added an RT cat which made an improvement in mid range torque and topend hp.

However, like many have said before. Too much lowend torque in a fwd car is not good and it shows in my 1/4 mile performance. I can't hook up in 1st no matter what I try. Plus I spin a bit going into 2nd on the track (which is very rare for any car-damn FWD).

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Originally posted by deathwish

hydrolocking is something that happens when you suck water into your engine, and for some reason people seem to think this can actually happen with a CAI during normal driving even thought there's no way in hell it can.

I've said it many times before, I'll say it again, <b>you are not going to suck water into you engine with a CAI unless you drive through 1+ ft of standing water</b>.

As to the question at hand, there ain't much that will give you more low end other than an engine swap. But do you really need low end? The maxima's strong point is the low end torque, the upper rpms are where it dies off and needs power. It's hard enough to get traction at launch as it is.
or if someone in front of you goes through a puddle and splashes water up into the intake. Several Z32s have hydrolocked their engines even though they didn't drive through a foot of water.

To increase low end, install an underdrive crank pulley. I don't think anyone makes adjustable camshaft gears for the Maxima..
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Originally posted by got rice?
Originally posted by deathwish

hydrolocking is something that happens when you suck water into your engine, and for some reason people seem to think this can actually happen with a CAI during normal driving even thought there's no way in hell it can.

I've said it many times before, I'll say it again, <b>you are not going to suck water into you engine with a CAI unless you drive through 1+ ft of standing water</b>.

As to the question at hand, there ain't much that will give you more low end other than an engine swap. But do you really need low end? The maxima's strong point is the low end torque, the upper rpms are where it dies off and needs power. It's hard enough to get traction at launch as it is.
or if someone in front of you goes through a puddle and splashes water up into the intake. Several Z32s have hydrolocked their engines even though they didn't drive through a foot of water.

To increase low end, install an underdrive crank pulley. I don't think anyone makes adjustable camshaft gears for the Maxima..
Not likely in the 4th gen, especially with fog lights. The filter is high off ground, very well protected by all the lining. I still insist that if you hydro lock with a CAI in the maxima, you did something seriously wrong.

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Didn't Russ hydrolock his 4th gen VQ?

Originally posted by Shingles
Not likely in the 4th gen, especially with fog lights. The filter is high off ground, very well protected by all the lining. I still insist that if you hydro lock with a CAI in the maxima, you did something seriously wrong.

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He must have done something seriously wrong.
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Hydrolock ?

How much water is required to hydrolock an engine...would going through a car wash do it if the CAI filter was somehow left unprotected?

How much ( if you can ) does it cost to repair a hydrolocked engine?
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Re: Didn't Russ hydrolock his 4th gen VQ?

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Not likely in the 4th gen, especially with fog lights. The filter is high off ground, very well protected by all the lining. I still insist that if you hydro lock with a CAI in the maxima, you did something seriously wrong.

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yeah but he said it was with a stock intake... so go figure...
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I think ejj5875 had some good questions that I would also like to know about, my CIA will be here any day now.
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You could spray the CAI filter directly with a hose, and nothing would happen to your engine. Trust me, with the design of our CAI you would have to submerge it in almost completely in water to risk damage to your engine.
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Originally posted by deathwish

You could spray the CAI filter directly with a hose, and nothing would happen to your engine. Trust me, with the design of our CAI you would have to submerge it in almost completely in water to risk damage to your engine.
if you look at the intake tract on the Z32 engines, you would think that it's impossible to get hydrolocked, too.. but it's not.

<img src="http://www.cyberhosts.net/~gotrice/ecza/mar24_00/10.jpg">

the intake is in front of the hood latch:
<img src="http://www.cyberhosts.net/~gotrice/etown100299/042.jpg">

the flow comes through the intake, hits the T section and either goes to the left or right piping, makes another 150 degree bend, then goes up into the throttle body. That's A LOT of travelling ... visit http://www.twinturbo.net and go to the Search section and run a search on hyrdrolock. You'll find a few posts here and there... do the same with Vtec.Net.

If the engine does hydrolock, you're better off buying a rebuilt one from ATK then rebuilding the current one. It'll cost more to rebuild it then to buy a remanufactured engine.

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With deathwish and Got Rice? Now I'm really lost. Are the chances of hydro locking much higher then with the stock setup, say in heavy rain?
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Let me put it this way... You do what you want, I'm personally more worried about getting abducted by aliens than I am about hydrolocking my engine with a CAI...

BTW I've had it on for over a year now, I have driven through heavy rain at freeway speeds, I have even raced it at the autox through a parking lot with 2" of standing water (I am not exaggerating).

[Edited by deathwish on 10-11-2000 at 08:48 AM]
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THank you, but your name IS deathwish :P J/k. Thank you for all your input, Texas is dry anyhow so I won't worry.
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Originally posted by TexMaximum
With deathwish and Got Rice? Now I'm really lost. Are the chances of hydro locking much higher then with the stock setup, say in heavy rain?
with the stock setup you should have no worries.
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