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VQ30DE Intake Manifold?
03-26-2005, 04:41 PM
#161
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Originally Posted by zack342
He just said they are in Arizona
Anyway... 1.5K for an IM? Thats like 1/4 of the price of a turbo kit. I dont see very many people jumping on that. But I would be hella insterested in the 00VI adapter. You might wanna try www.azmaximas.org and im sure someone down here will be willing to be the guinea pig.
03-27-2005, 09:47 AM
#162
yea im would be a bad idea cuze we already have the 00-01 one so it would be stupid to get one that won't come close as far as performance and for 1500?????!!!! i would rather get the 3.5 vq and have 100 extra hp all around or for the most part anyway
03-27-2005, 11:27 AM
#163
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Originally Posted by mad-max98
yea im would be a bad idea cuze we already have the 00-01 one so it would be stupid to get one that won't come close as far as performance and for 1500?????!!!! i would rather get the 3.5 vq and have 100 extra hp all around or for the most part anyway
03-27-2005, 04:09 PM
#165
I think it'd be important to note that a new intake manifold could be worth a lot more than extra hp on the top end. It might be good not to lose 30hp at redline, but a new manifold could be a ton more important as a facilitating mod -- i.e. one that helps you squeeze power out of other mods like an intake and exhaust parts.
Here's something to consider: when you're tuning a car on any kind of limited budget, whether it be $1k or $10k, you always take what your car is initially good at and work with that, right? That's why (smart) people bore out and supercharge muscle cars and don't do much to suspension, or focus on suspension first and engines second on Hondas.
Well, the VQ30DE is great because it's so flexible. It has good torque at low and midrange rpms, great balance and timings for good performance on the high end, and lightweight internals and short-stroke half-liter cylinders for quick throttle response. So you could theoretically take it anywhere:
1. Add a CAI and tune your ECU for low- and mid-range punch.
2. Throw on a short ram or hybrid intake, get some cams and bump up the redline for lots of high-end power.
3. Use a hybrid intake, open up the exhaust a lot, and put in an ultra-light flywheel and UDP to make it rev like a dremel.
A new intake manifold could do wonders in any one of these scenarios. A variable manifold could help for either low-end or top-end without hurting the other, and a manifold with individual throttle butterflies would make our engines even more revvy and responsive and really make them scream at the high RPMs.
Anyway, the point is, it's a total package thing. As has been pointed out, there really isn't a wide range of mods, especially one that can be installed relatively painlessly. A new intake manifold that opens up a new performance aspect for our engines, especially one that just bolts right up, would really be killer since it would allow a wider variety of setups to choose from.
Also keep in mind.... a product that's a couple hundred bucks more expensive than you'd like might still be a bargain if it saves you hours and hours of labor (yours or your mechanic's) and helps you avoid headaches.
SSR, a new intake manifold to help high-end power and/or engine response would be awesome by itself. If you could then show that it really rips in combination with other mods, you're guaranteed to sell them.
I would love to see an intake manifold that is tuned for high-end power and has individual throttle butterflies. I'd imagine you could easily get a couple of companies together to make tested and proven intake-manifold-ECU-exhaust-flywheel packages that work together to turn our engines into rip-roaring 8,000rpm rev monsters. Peak torque would come in at like 4500 and wouldn't stop until 7500 -- even if you did have low-end loss, it wouldn't matter because anyone who complains about it would get left in the dust.
Here's something to consider: when you're tuning a car on any kind of limited budget, whether it be $1k or $10k, you always take what your car is initially good at and work with that, right? That's why (smart) people bore out and supercharge muscle cars and don't do much to suspension, or focus on suspension first and engines second on Hondas.
Well, the VQ30DE is great because it's so flexible. It has good torque at low and midrange rpms, great balance and timings for good performance on the high end, and lightweight internals and short-stroke half-liter cylinders for quick throttle response. So you could theoretically take it anywhere:
1. Add a CAI and tune your ECU for low- and mid-range punch.
2. Throw on a short ram or hybrid intake, get some cams and bump up the redline for lots of high-end power.
3. Use a hybrid intake, open up the exhaust a lot, and put in an ultra-light flywheel and UDP to make it rev like a dremel.
A new intake manifold could do wonders in any one of these scenarios. A variable manifold could help for either low-end or top-end without hurting the other, and a manifold with individual throttle butterflies would make our engines even more revvy and responsive and really make them scream at the high RPMs.
Anyway, the point is, it's a total package thing. As has been pointed out, there really isn't a wide range of mods, especially one that can be installed relatively painlessly. A new intake manifold that opens up a new performance aspect for our engines, especially one that just bolts right up, would really be killer since it would allow a wider variety of setups to choose from.
Also keep in mind.... a product that's a couple hundred bucks more expensive than you'd like might still be a bargain if it saves you hours and hours of labor (yours or your mechanic's) and helps you avoid headaches.
SSR, a new intake manifold to help high-end power and/or engine response would be awesome by itself. If you could then show that it really rips in combination with other mods, you're guaranteed to sell them.
I would love to see an intake manifold that is tuned for high-end power and has individual throttle butterflies. I'd imagine you could easily get a couple of companies together to make tested and proven intake-manifold-ECU-exhaust-flywheel packages that work together to turn our engines into rip-roaring 8,000rpm rev monsters. Peak torque would come in at like 4500 and wouldn't stop until 7500 -- even if you did have low-end loss, it wouldn't matter because anyone who complains about it would get left in the dust.
03-27-2005, 04:34 PM
#166
I like the adapter idea for the 00VI, but why not a complete install kit that makes the 00VI a bolt-on mod? Let the customer source the manifold itself, and include a ready to bolt on TB (preferably matched to the manifold itself for even flow), and all the necessary hoses, bolts, etc? I would jump all over this, since 00VI's can be found at the junkyard for 150 bucks or less. Have the kit cost about 400 bucks or less, and I'm a customer.
03-28-2005, 10:11 PM
#167
Originally Posted by GoalieKeg
I like the adapter idea for the 00VI, but why not a complete install kit that makes the 00VI a bolt-on mod? Let the customer source the manifold itself, and include a ready to bolt on TB (preferably matched to the manifold itself for even flow), and all the necessary hoses, bolts, etc? I would jump all over this, since 00VI's can be found at the junkyard for 150 bucks or less. Have the kit cost about 400 bucks or less, and I'm a customer.
03-28-2005, 10:30 PM
#168
Individual throttle bodies damnit! 
Actually, a big
for the 00VI bolt-on kit idea.
I'd still love to see something unique (like a full new manifold), but a kit like that would rock hardcore. I'd buy it in a second.
Actually, a big
for the 00VI bolt-on kit idea. I'd still love to see something unique (like a full new manifold), but a kit like that would rock hardcore. I'd buy it in a second.
03-29-2005, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nismology
Another good idea is to make a lower intake manifold that would allow you to bolt the 00VI onto 3.5 heads.
03-29-2005, 11:09 AM
#175
Originally Posted by JClaw
I'm in on that. Would be good not only for 2002+ but for people like me with VQ35's in their 4th gens.
03-29-2005, 11:11 AM
#176
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Originally Posted by the chariot
I like the adapter idea for the 00VI, but why not a complete install kit that makes the 00VI a bolt-on mod?
im in on this idea as well !
im in on this idea as well !
i would love for that to come out!
03-29-2005, 11:30 AM
#177
Seriously tho, people.... I really (really!) don't mean to hurt the idea of an 00VI installation kit, but why not something truly unique? Is it because it wouldn't be worth the effort to try to improve on Nissan's design?
03-29-2005, 11:36 AM
#178
Originally Posted by d00df00d
Seriously tho, people.... I really (really!) don't mean to hurt the idea of an 00VI installation kit, but why not something truly unique? Is it because it wouldn't be worth the effort to try to improve on Nissan's design?
03-29-2005, 11:45 AM
#180
Originally Posted by the chariot
I like the adapter idea for the 00VI, but why not a complete install kit that makes the 00VI a bolt-on mod?
im in on this idea as well !
im in on this idea as well !
I've got to agree here. It seems smart that something like that would sell alot, based on all the dyno #'s and all the people who have done it so far LOVING it and making me jealous lol
03-31-2005, 04:27 AM
#186
Originally Posted by Zach95SE
If you make an adapter plate plus an installation kit so it is a new bolt-on mod for us 4th Geners then you can count my money in your pocket.
03-31-2005, 06:11 AM
#187
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WOOT WOOT on 00VI adapter. I don't think you can beat that
03-31-2005, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by zack342
so what is the final verdict SSR ?
03-31-2005, 11:02 AM
#190
Originally Posted by SSR Engineering
All we need is a 4th gen, and an 01 VI Intake manifold
03-31-2005, 11:03 AM
#191
Originally Posted by SSR Engineering
All we need is a 4th gen, and an 01 VI Intake manifold
I would be willing to buy the manifold and all hardware and have it shipped to you guys if there was something in it for me ...
03-31-2005, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by krismax
MY advice dont make this for stock TB make it for pathy one and use dek lower. People have problems with coil packs using 4th gen lower
03-31-2005, 04:39 PM
#196
Originally Posted by SSR Engineering
So use a whole DEK manifold, and make it fit pathfinder TB? You guys do realize the more custom stuff the more it will raise the price, if it's made to fit the pathfinder you'll have to source and purchase a pathfinder tb etc.
that is why you should not do this. 4th gen lower and 5th gen upper only. and stock TB.
Pathy throttle bodies are hard if not impossible to source and you would make this mod difficult for many people.
the 4th gen coilpacks are only an issue on 99's so i don't see what what has to do with VI
03-31-2005, 07:13 PM
#197
Originally Posted by SSR Engineering
So use a whole DEK manifold, and make it fit pathfinder TB? You guys do realize the more custom stuff the more it will raise the price, if it's made to fit the pathfinder you'll have to source and purchase a pathfinder tb etc.
Sourcing a 00VI manifold is enough, a Pathy TB is too much. Make it to fit the stock TB with an adapter (prefered), or have a custom one made. The main reason I brought about the kit idea is so that your average orger (not a dumb orger, we have quite a few of those, including me) will be able to install all the vaccum lines, EGR (with or without), IACV, etc. by following DETAILED (pictures are helpful) written directions provided by the manufacturer of the kit. There are in reality very few orgers that know what all the components are of the USDM or VI, or for that matter, how they even work. Perhaps an orger that has the 00VI on their car and understands it well can help out SSR with the fabbing or give them some ideas on the best way to do it.
Like I said before, if this happens, I'll be the first in line to order.
03-31-2005, 09:15 PM
#198
Originally Posted by GoalieKeg
Sourcing a 00VI manifold is enough, a Pathy TB is too much. Make it to fit the stock TB with an adapter (prefered), or have a custom one made. The main reason I brought about the kit idea is so that your average orger (not a dumb orger, we have quite a few of those, including me) will be able to install all the vaccum lines, EGR (with or without), IACV, etc. by following DETAILED (pictures are helpful) written directions provided by the manufacturer of the kit. There are in reality very few orgers that know what all the components are of the USDM or VI, or for that matter, how they even work. Perhaps an orger that has the 00VI on their car and understands it well can help out SSR with the fabbing or give them some ideas on the best way to do it.
Like I said before, if this happens, I'll be the first in line to order.
Like I said before, if this happens, I'll be the first in line to order.
i'll be second!
03-31-2005, 09:23 PM
#199
Hey guys.... as a sort of a side note...
I sorta mentioned this in my huuuuge post a few pages back, which I don't really expect people to have read... The VI really helps on the high end, and some other mods (like shorter intakes) help there as well, right?
Well, what about the idea of an intake/manifold-kit/flywheel/exhaust/ECU combo, all of it optimized for power in high RPMs? Would anyone buy that?
I sorta mentioned this in my huuuuge post a few pages back, which I don't really expect people to have read... The VI really helps on the high end, and some other mods (like shorter intakes) help there as well, right?
Well, what about the idea of an intake/manifold-kit/flywheel/exhaust/ECU combo, all of it optimized for power in high RPMs? Would anyone buy that?
03-31-2005, 09:49 PM
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what GoalieKeg said sounds like a good idea to me.