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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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rotor upgrades what type??

i am looking to put new rotors all the way around on my 98 max. i dont know if i should put cross drilled rotors on or sloted cross drilled. i have heard that sloted cross drilled wear out pads quickly i am looking for any info anyone have that has one or the other i will be doing mostly daily driving and 1/4 mile i will do some auto cross when the car is ready not till next summer but i want to drive it every day and not have to change pads all the time also has anyone had a dust issue??

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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i wouldnt go with either of the cross drilled rotors... theyre known to crack. i would go with the slotted dimpled rotors.
Old Sep 10, 2004 | 10:49 PM
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I was thinking of going with Brembo cross drilled only. I haven't heard very many people that had quality drilled rotors crack on them, unless maybe Mario Andretti. But who knows, maybe a sh*tload of people will tell us that theirs cracked and we'll both learn something? I'm in your boat, about ready to make amove on some rotors.
Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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i can tell you that my experience with the BREMBO slotted/cross drilled rotors have been great. ive been running them for about 6 months now with no premature pad wear or cracking at all. the braking power is SOOO much better over stock blank rotors in moderate to heavy braking. under normal braking though, i have noticed a little more effort is needed to brake because of the less surface area the pad has to grip. but man oh man these things have yet to show any sign of break fade in the least. I usually drive spirited around the city and with my old blank rotors, i would get significant fade! thats eleminated now. i would highly recommend the brembo slotted/cross drilled if you are a somewhat spirited driver like myself most of the time. it was money well spent.

be sure that the slotting/cross drilling is done from the manufacturer or from a reputable company because improper drilling can and probably will lead to cracking and premature pad wear. i would go with brembo as they are decently priced and proabably some of the best made rotors available!

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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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What kind of driving do you do?
Most people would never have a need for these type of rotors.
I mean, only if you are autocrossing or something like that would you need these.
I think it is a pretty expensive way to show off your brakes.
Old Sep 14, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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Drilled and slotted look hot and react much better. But when it comes down to resurfacing them, you cant
Old Sep 14, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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You cannot with blanks either.
they are not thick enough to withstand it.
They become too thin, even after one time, and warp within a very few miles. Mine warped within 1k miles.
Old Sep 14, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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I got in on the slotted/dimple Brembo rotor offer right here on m.org about two years ago. Great rotors, still have them, but one of my calipers decided it was a little hungry around 103K mi and started gouging the inside of one of them. Pads have been fine - no real premature wear. Don't autocross (see brudaddy's post) but do have a wife with a seriously hard braking technique (believe me - that qualifies!)

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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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Brudaddy, you have stated before that fade during street driving is a non-issue and I must disagree with you again. I experience fade on a bi-daily basis. And no its not because of my pads(They are R4-s) and its not the rotors because they have 20K on them and its not air in the lines. My brakes are in tip top working order. The fact remains that if you pull 100-0 on the threshold of traction your fluid will be boiled instantly and your rotors will be on fire. You guys need to explain in depth what type of driving you do. I define myself as a spirited driver and I see speeds of 100+ on nearly a daily basis. I like to have my fun at night at an industrial park. By the end of the 5th lap around this 1.1mi course my brakes need 1/2 an hour of rest. Now if you call yourself a spirited driver but never brake the speed limit there is no need to have any brake setup besides stock.
Old Sep 14, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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I guess that is what I was talking about.
You are doing some road course driving where you will have to brake multiple times from 60+ to 0 or from 100+ to 0. I would guess the slotted ones are warranted.
I never really said anything about brake fade with street driving though.
I would hope that you don't do the 100 to 0 thing in just your street driving.
That is what I was talking about. I mean, I am a spirited driver, and I have never experienced brake fade on the street.
I also don't go 100+ on a daily basis....esp. not in the street. Not only is it very dangerous (mostly to others, because even thought I am good driver, and there is no doubt, Broaner, that you are....others on the roads are idiots and don't know how to react to people that drive aggressively like us.), but it is wreckless and I cannot afford to get pulled over doing 15miles over the speed limit....let alone doing 100+mph.

Have I done that speed? Yes.....but only on the highway out of town, and not very often. Also, I don't need to brake to 0 when I am.

To recap:
If you do road courses like Broaner....I would get the slotted ones.
Otherwise, no need.
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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Point taken. Everyone defines spirited at a different level. You really do like to post in brake threads though.
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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I am considerin brembo drilled slot rotors too but what is "spirited driving?"

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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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Today I just recieved my new Brembo slotted rotors all around with Hawk pads....I love how the gold looks behind the 'ol sawblades!
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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i do plan to auto cross next year and do some "spirited driving" so i think i will get the brembos all the way around i am still not sure if i want nissan pads or if i will go with aftermarket pad still looking into it if anyone has input on the pads make a post tell me what you think

thanks bobby
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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I have the Brembo cross drilled/slotted rotors and they are still fine. I was also worried about them cracking but they have not. IMO they stop better then stock. Give them a try, im sure you wont regret getting them.
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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If you never break hard, your drilled slotted rotors will never crack??? Am I right???
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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Power Slots

I don’t think that you’ll need cross drilled.
I don’t think they make all that much difference.
I’ve heard that they are more prone to cracking,
but can’t say that from personal experience.
I put “Powerslots” on all 4 corners about 3, 4 months ago and have been very happy with them.
Don’t remember where I got them, might have been Shox.com?
A quick google found this:
http://www.prostreetonline.com/buy/p...rotors/nissan/
Anyway, went with Powerslots for
A: price (and shop around online)
B: they are coated in silver finish.
I didn’t like the way the OEMs rusted and looked like crap.
I didn’t like the “brassy” look of the Brembros (or the $$$).
So got the Powerslots and had a local shop put them on.
My local dealer who does most service wouldn’t do the work. Their loss.
After they were on a while and the pads had a chance to wear them a bit
I took off the wheels, taped over the pad contact area and painted the hubs black with caliper paint (also touched up the calipers at the same time).
Good luck
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 11:38 PM
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Couple things. Aftermarket rotors are not required if you never brake hard.

fast97maxse, you could've done the install yourself and saved that $80. Also, its great that you painted the rotors to stop the rust but taping of the disc is not required. The pad will burn away that **** after one mile.

98maxima5speed, there is very little point in doing any aftermarket rotor if your not going to back it up with a good pad. The other way around would be fine but aftermarket rotors don't improve braking by themselves. They improve fade resistance. Infact, if you stay on Nissan pads you will see a loss in stopping power with slotted or drilled.
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 01:33 AM
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make sure if you do it, do the whole 9.
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Broaner
98maxima5speed, there is very little point in doing any aftermarket rotor if your not going to back it up with a good pad. The other way around would be fine but aftermarket rotors don't improve braking by themselves. They improve fade resistance. Infact, if you stay on Nissan pads you will see a loss in stopping power with slotted or drilled.
Well I just want drill slotted for style only, I do not need any more braking power. I was also thinking of using Nissan pads. So will raybestos QS be any good. I do not want an agrressive pad that will damage the rotor.
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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powerslots, hawks pads,goodridge SS lines all around. any more questions?
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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ok i have done the mod i went with brembo drilled/sloted and pads all the way around also painted calipers looks stops great with no brake fade (yes i drive that fast) i want to do the ss lines soon but $$ is a littel low need to fill my nitrous bottel to lol so they will come later


p.s did some braking test i know front does most of braking so i did some stops with just the front then put the back on and tryed made no noticable diffrence so if you dont want to do the back you dont have to but it looks cool and if you are going to do this make sure you have the tool to spin the rear caliper piston in make sure it is lined up correctly also.
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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Needle nose pliers work perfectly well for the rear caliper.
Old Dec 6, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaTodd
i can tell you that my experience with the BREMBO slotted/cross drilled rotors have been great. ive been running them for about 6 months now with no premature pad wear or cracking at all. the braking power is SOOO much better over stock blank rotors in moderate to heavy braking. under normal braking though, i have noticed a little more effort is needed to brake because of the less surface area the pad has to grip.
-todd
Todd can you please tell me where did you get those rotors, I want front ones with brake pads. Can you tell me where and how much were they?
Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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Needle nose pliers work perfectly well for the rear caliper
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you may have been lucky mine did not come off that easy i had to use the tool to spin it back also i did have 140k on the oems
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