what he said.


oh and here again i'll say it about the SR headers.
car A: 97 w/ stillen exhaust and y pipe, straight pipe, pr intake, underdrive pulley, 5 sp, 70kmiles, excellent condition uses friggen royal purple for instance no codes new plugs etc...anyways...
car A gets dyno w/ 3 runs, sr headers installed, three days later gets another dyno again 3 runs.
car A on average loses hp under 3-3.5k not much 1-2hp
above 4.5k it gained a peak of 3hp.
tq was in the same boat if i remember correctly.
car A has EGR errors and nashua will not help fix it.
car A has some shiny new pipes on his engine which don't do crap.

i don't think dynos are accurate for measuring very small increases.

we don't need headers on our max. y pipe is FINE. for the price and install you could have a ecu or mevi...or some new ICE.

so there. sr headers are crap. hell they arn't headers. they arn't equal length. just enlarged tubing...a whole 4-5 inches of tubing...thats rough inside. also if i'm not mistaken people have had problems with y pipe fitment...

anyways i'm dead tired nite!!!

edit: if your serious about modding cars and the like, you get to know people...finding someone to pass your car through inspections cheaply is usually not a problem at all.

edit#2: oh ya only car A has 0 beez in the can noise from the stillen which has been on 1.5 years.

 

i have a stillen y-pipe with flex section and i have been very happy with it. None of that bees in the can sound, no wearing through the flex material. Got it cheap, and have been happy ever since. But it does seem like not to many people have the stillen y-pipe.

 

Just get the Y, you probably dont have any need for the headers! Damn those look good. Just get a cattman y

 

I'm saving up some money to buy a Warpspeed y pipe for my girl...a 97 Maxima SE.

 

crap man! i feel stupid. i thought that headers were just polished exhaust manifolds! where you can just replace them with with the old, and still use a y-pipe!? seems as though headers have their own 'pre-cat' exhaust design... right?

 

Headers are only worth getting if you have a VQ35 IMO. On a VQ30 the Ypipe will give about 10-12WHP while the headers will give 16-18WHP. On a VQ35 the ypipe isn't worth crap, as it gives about 5-8WHP and sometimes nothing (It has something to do with crappy exhaust manifolds) while headers give a good 25WHP and sometimes closer to 30WHP.

I went with the Cattman headers on my 1995 because I was swapping the VQ35 in, but otherwise I would have gone the Y-pipe way.

 

get a warpspeed ypipe and save lots of money and enjoy lots of performance, its the smart thing to do !

 

No doubt. $160 shipped.

 

from what i hear, the stillen y-pipe has produces 'bees in a can' noise'

 

iv read teh y pipe will make a bid diff on 4gen maximas

 

 

When I got my cattman Y-pipe, I had a UDP, stillen intake, and stillen cat-back. The y-pipe was by far the biggest gain. Noticable through the whole range, but mostly up top. I have the RT cat, and last time I got inspected, I passed my emissions, they did fail me for loud exhaust, but I went right back the next day and passed.

 

can you even FEEL a 2-3 horsepower gain?!
that would be MY determining factor.

 

Thats very true

 

i mean, if you just wait for a cool night with dense cold air . .

FREE HORSEPOWER

You are talking about HP that will fell the same as if you had less gas in the tank or the air temp/dens changes. I know what you're thinking and you are right. It's in your head when the increase is that small.

For that kind of money you will be waiting to be blown back into your seat and I will feel the same pull with just a $160 Warp Y.

 

if you get a ypipe now, ur gonna want headers later because you still have a bunch of restriction coming from them. the point of the exhuast is to let the car breathe better and have less restrictions. the ypipe alone removes 2 catalytic converters from stock setup. the stock headers are small and not mandrel bent, so theyre not very efficient. i got my headers first because i knew i wouldnt be able to get the rear header off without taking off the cross member underneath and remove a motor mount so the engine could drop down. otherwise, theres no way ur getting that rear header off. so i paid to have that done at my mechanics shop. he charged me $250 for i think 5 hrs of work. the headers are a *****. you can do the exhaust urself tho. thats a cake walk. plus they sound soo sick with a mandrel bent y. high flow cat, and greddy evo sp2 cat-back. i race my boys 96 max se 5spd and he has y, test pipe, and cat back. i pull on him in every gear.

so if ur gonna go headers i would recommend either stone racing http://www.vqpower.com/v2/modules.ph...article&sid=88

or of course the cattman.

cat back i would only recommend the greddy evosp2
http://www.importrp.com/product.php?...2&cat=0&page=1

good luck!

- swazey

check it out... http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2104185

 

If you're concerned about the money issue for the headers here's what I'd do......get the CarCareOne credit card from Sport Compact Only and use their financing option to pay only like $40-$50 a month (with no interest) for the Cattman headers. I used a very similar financing option for my new rims and tires and will be doing the same thing to allow me to pickup the headers Cattman headers with highflow cat, budget b-pipe, and Borla muffler is gonna be the sex

 

Translation: I've read the Y-pipe will make a big difference on 4th gen Maxima's.

You can send the check for the translation this evening

 

Does anyone know who SSAUTOCHROMECHROME is?
Looks like they have 4th Gen Maxima headers for $279 ??

If this is real, I wonder if I can get a refund from Warpspeed ?????

" Prod.# DSC00071
NISSAN MAXIMA HEADERS AND " Y " PIPE
Price $279.00
" 4TH GEN " HEADERS AND " Y " • 1995-2001 • VQ30DE 3.0 • MAXIMA V6 3.0L • " BOLT ON " - NO CUTTING OR WELDING NEEDED "

http://www.ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1433

 

I believe these are the same as the "ebay headers" that many people ask about...

Someone with a 2002 put these on and went to dyno and found that they didn't gain much at all. I doubt it'd be much better for you 4th Gens if not I'm sure more people would've already done it.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=409159

 

don't ****ing buy that ****. read my above posts.

 

IMO, if you really want headers to complete the whole "shiny new exhaust" theme, then just get them. However, if you are getting headers for power, you should consider a 3.5. Headers for 3.5 = y-pipe for 3.0 as far as gains go.

With money not being an issue, get them. However, with money not being an issue, you might as well turbo a 3.5...

With money being an issue, pass on the headers. The money would be better spent, as others have said, on a MEVI and JWT ECU. You could almost get both for the price of Cattman headers/y-pipe install. However, with money being an issue, the y is your best bang for the buck. You would be satisfied with just that.

I gave two options for each $$$ situation. Confusing, probably. Informative, hopefully.

 

I ordered a Warpspeed Y, 160 shipped, honestly its the same amount of money as 3 tanks of gas, and i havent driven in 3 weeks, so its not a big budget killer. If your gonna S/C get the headers. otherwise get a Y. the warpspeed is so cheap that its not a big deal if u end up taking it off in 2 years... my .02

 

forget that spend the money on your car...you dont need to spend the money on your g/f to get something from her

 

All this talk about Y pipe...I want to ask what is the hissing noise some of you have mentioned...because I got mine put on (from lssexhaust.com) and I had that hissing noise on ALL RPMS as long as my foot was more than half way down on the gas. I went back to the muffler shop they took the car up and I revved the engine and they said there's no leak...Problem is that hissing is not there when I rev the engine with no load but when I'm moving and I put the pedal down I hear it after like 1.5K rpm. I thought it was my stillen intake but I took that off and it's still there.

 

does it sould like 100 thousand bees hitting a sheet of tin foil?

 

Not at all...maybe it is that sound but it gets muffeled away with my magnaflow muffler to the point where it's just a hissing sound? You know what, it sounds like an exhaust leak with a hint of zzzzzz added in there heh so maybe it is that sound :P

Either way I like the additional power I got with the Y pipe I just want to make sure it's not acctually a leak that the muffler shop can't detect because I heard exhaust leaks can lead to damaged valves after 5-10K miles of driving with the leak?

 

whatever it is that you are hearing is probably normal. The Y-pipe is much more open and is therefore going to resonate mroe being louder. The extra hissing or something is normal on an aftermarket y-pipe. Mine had it also. As long as it's not obnoxious, it should be fine.

 

anyone ever look at these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-R...spagenameZWDVW

I went to the site and it gives a general description for all different makes, nissans, hondas, etc. Nothing specific. 7-10hp? From what I know thats about normal on a Civic, but maybe its more on a Max. I just dont like the way the rear downpipe works into the rest of the y pipe at a straight 90' andgle. Thats kind of gay.

 

I actually just bought them. I'm in the installation process right now... what a b*tch. My buddy just completley ripped apart my egr . Stupid me i just orederd a new one even though i should of just blocked it off. Any one know if the max will run if the vac lines r plugged?

 

Bump..........97 max se five speed dark green tan leather 20% non fadin tints....hold up.... im crunk

 

I got the Cattman y-pipe and love it. Only reason why I didn't do the headers yet, is cause I'm not boosted. When I go with a SC, I'll get his headers definately.

 

so in all, is headers and y worth it??

 

not imo, we don't need headers on our max. y pipe is FINE. for the price and install you could have a ecu or mevi which will add alot more hp then shorty headers. can this thread die now?

 

if u got the money, why not go for the maximum gain...

 

if you have money to **** away go buy a turbo kit.

 

When did you get yours? I just purchased one from them and the price went up to $185, they're not doing it for $160 anymore. I also got a hi/flow cat to go with it.

 

i have budget y and greddy catback with random tech conv. passed emissions no prob here in NJ. As for passing with the Cattmann headers I spoke to Brain Catts he told me that as long as the car is warmed up and you have a good cat convert then you should pass with no problems. And if i had to swap back to stock just to pass inspection i wouldnt even waste my money on this mod.

 

Try adding a intake if you think a y-pipe makes some odd noises at WOT....

 

B A N teh n00b!


Stop postwhoring to get your postcount up.

/offtopic




In relation to this thread, the Stone Racing/SSAutoChrome/XS Power headers and y-pipe are all the same. The shipping box that they come in says Stone Racing. The box inside the box, and the laser engraving on the headers themselves says XS Power. SSAutoChrome is the name on the bill.


Furthermore, the headers are a direct fit for the stock exhaust manifolds. The y-pipe is a direct fit for the factory y-pipe. I see NO reason that the headers themselves couldn't work on any other y-pipe.


I'm too lazy, (plus it -1 degrees outside right now), to install the headers. The y-pipe took an hour. (Rust = the devil!)